Glass in coffee

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Monkeylegend

26,385 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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I don't know what came over me, most of my postings are inane rubbish.

mikal83

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252 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
I don't know what came over me, most of my postings are inane rubbish.
Very true.....smile, but hopefully I wont be getting anymore trolling. Jar off to nescafe, watch this space for any feedback!

Marcellus

7,119 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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The manufacturer will want to know as they will need to investigate and review their processes to try and reduce the incidents of it happening again.

They will be able to identify the actual source of the foreign body in so far as was it from teh bottle itself, another bottle in teh same batch or something put in to the bottle from another source.

In food manufacturing they will have systems and processes to ensure that no glass gets in to the process, if we had one broken bottle in the filling hall we would quarantine a lot of production either side of the broken bottle, if we had 2 then we would quarantine the whole production run of the glass.

To make glass bottles you actually produce a batch that would/could last you a couple of months production (billions of bottles) as the glass furnaces need to run 24/7/365 and a changeover takes quite a lot of time so have to be minimised (you can turn flow down but not off).

To give you an insight to how rare these sorts of things are, we used to record them as "complaints per million" and if we got above 0.5 per million it was serious!

As to what the OP will probably hear back from Manufacturer; it'll be something along the lines of "dear sir/madam we are sorry that you have not enjoyed our product as much you would like please find enclosed £x worth of vouchers to try a different product from our range, love and hugs A Manufacturer"

mikal83

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252 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I await their answer. The glass was coloured dark brown also more curved than the white clear glass jar.

Marcellus

7,119 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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my guess would be post-production inclusion..... a furnace produces one colour of glass and take a long time to change colours so it's rarely done, once made bottles are palletised opening down so that nothing can "drop in" during shipping and storage, they're then de-palletised and air cleaned and rotated so if there is anything in there it would drop out, they're then conveyed to the filler and the conveyors all have covers to reduce the risk of things dropping in. The filling process & Capping is done at the same time so the product is filling and capped and then passes under heat to stick the gold foil to the neck, this is done at speed... probably 2/300 bottles a minute!

At several stages pre-filling the jars will pass through sensors and anything not correct will be rejected, after filling each jar will be weighed and anything over-weight will be rejected. Assuming the brown glass weighed something this should have rejected the jar if all else failed, (there is also metal detection throughout).

If a line switches glass colour then usually the whole line will be cleared and checked not blended through, but having a quick look at Nestles product range I couldn't see a glass pack with a similar sized opening in brown glass, but that's not to say it's not contract packed but I doubt it.

So, "different coloured glass under the foil" will be taken pretty seriously by the manufacturer as it indicated either tampering or failure of several process!

(btw my background has never had any involvement with coffee but other similar food and drink production)

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I hope you hear espresso and have a nice drive in your Suzuki Cappuccino car,dont be latte but keep an eye out for the Galao speed cameras.

Track Rod

247 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Surely if you'd swallowed the glass you'd have a pane in the stomach?

mikal83

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252 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooh that hurt.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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To be fair, the unpleasant sensation of glass passing down your throat is probably preferable to Nescafé.

mikal83

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5,340 posts

252 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Update. Have had a reply from Nescafe already....less than a week from sending the jar/coffee back.
They have tested said materiel and it was compacted coffee! Although it looked like glass, snapped like glass etc it wasn't. So hurrah for my throat and downwards. They also gave me a cheque for 16 quid. The post /envelope cost me 9, so the diff will be given to the charity of Doombar!

Thankyou for the help and advice from some of you.

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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carreauchompeur said:
To be fair, the unpleasant sensation of glass passing down your throat is probably preferable to Nescafé.
laugh

mikal83

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252 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
carreauchompeur said:
To be fair, the unpleasant sensation of glass passing down your throat is probably preferable to Nescafé.
laugh
I didnt want to say this ............but, not all of us have the time to freshly brew a cup of joe, picked and crushed by the feet of vestal virgins on snow capped mountains in the tropics.

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Did you take a picture of this compacted coffee?

mikal83

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Wednesday 1st July 2015
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SHutchinson said:
Did you take a picture of this compacted coffee?
Of course, just in case it was lost in the post etc. It was about the size of a finger nail, very very hard, about 1 mm thick and snapped like glass and sharp edges.

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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mikal83 said:
SHutchinson said:
Did you take a picture of this compacted coffee?
Of course, just in case it was lost in the post etc. It was about the size of a finger nail, very very hard, about 1 mm thick and snapped like glass and sharp edges.
Are you able to post it here?

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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mikal83 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
carreauchompeur said:
To be fair, the unpleasant sensation of glass passing down your throat is probably preferable to Nescafé.
laugh
I didnt want to say this ............but, not all of us have the time to freshly brew a cup of joe, picked and crushed by the feet of vestal virgins on snow capped mountains in the tropics.
Not everyone can own a Ferrari 488....but it doesn't mean the only option is a Dacia Sandero.


Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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mikal83 said:
I didnt want to say this ............but, not all of us have the time to freshly brew a cup of joe, picked and crushed by the feet of vestal virgins on snow capped mountains in the tropics.
There's a whole load of coffee between the dregs Nescafe and the most premium ground coffee. Have a look in your local supermarket... even Morrisons have a decent brand (I know, I used to sell it to them)

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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mikal83 said:
snow capped mountains in the tropics.
Is that even possible ....

mikal83

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Wednesday 1st July 2015
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rigga said:
Is that even possible ....
Is Kilimanjaro in the tropics? Hawaiiiiiii.


soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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btcc123 said:
I hope you hear espresso and have a nice drive in your Suzuki Cappuccino car,dont be latte but keep an eye out for the Galao speed cameras.
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