Baiting to speed by unmarked plod?
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Black_mamba said:
What you on about? I just thought it unusual for an unmarked car to overtake me, then slow down considerably whilst still driving at speed limit plus, and I come onto a driving forum and specifically a speed part of that forum to share and ask if others had experienced the same. You sir seem to be a dingle dangle
Well it's not in the slightest bit unusual, the only thing that is unusual about it is seeing a real police car on the road these days.softtop said:
Mmm, the other week I overtook a 3 series, 65 in a 60 and slowed down to 60 for a gatso. He then passed the camera a little behind me then undertook me and sped up to about 80. I ignored the behaviour and then ended up level at the lights. Shoddy driving or baiting, you decide.
Being in an outer lane, with a sufficiently clear inner lane for cars to undertake? Especially if it was a two lane road (in your direction) but either way, shoddy driving. But not by them.Jonsv8 said:
Being in an outer lane, with a sufficiently clear inner lane for cars to undertake? Especially if it was a two lane road (in your direction) but either way, shoddy driving. But not by them.
Keyboard warrior. Remember I had only just overtaken him at small speed differential. Who said there was enough space and time to pull back in? softtop said:
Jonsv8 said:
Being in an outer lane, with a sufficiently clear inner lane for cars to undertake? Especially if it was a two lane road (in your direction) but either way, shoddy driving. But not by them.
Keyboard warrior. Remember I had only just overtaken him at small speed differential. Who said there was enough space and time to pull back in? 
ZX10R NIN said:
OP it sounds like they gave you a chance to slow down rather than end up with points be happy about it, they weren't trying to bait you they were seeing how observant you were.
You passed the test so didn't get three points be happy.
Don't recall saying I wasn't happy at any stage in my post, if the overtake and subsequent slow down was carried out by non plod it would have been construed as very odd IMO. My post was trying to explain what happened, and to ask if others had experienced the same, some had, others just waffled on picking holes in grammar or getting the wrong idea about my attitude/ happiness etc. gotta love PH's sometimesYou passed the test so didn't get three points be happy.
Black_mamba said:
My post was trying to explain what happened, and to ask if others had experienced the same, some had, others just waffled on picking holes in grammar or getting the wrong idea about my attitude/ happiness etc. gotta love PH's sometimes
The only question in your OP was if you were being baited or not.R8VXF said:
StottyEvo said:
I don't doubt for a second that Plod have baited drivers to break speed limits, but in this instance I doubt it was the case.
Of course it wasn't in this case, they didn't stop him. They just gave a friendly warning.StottyEvo said:
R8VXF said:
StottyEvo said:
I don't doubt for a second that Plod have baited drivers to break speed limits, but in this instance I doubt it was the case.
Of course it wasn't in this case, they didn't stop him. They just gave a friendly warning.
This reminds me of a recent motorway trip I had. I came across a knot of traffic that was refusing to overtake a marked car in L1, but as I was on the 70 limit and now catching the group, I put faith in the police not being power-crazed Nazi's looking to pounce on anyone even a smidge over the limit and made a safe, albeit slow overtake of them and the knot of cars around them.
Once the overtake was completed I indicated, pulled into L1 again and continued - all perfectly, honestly Christian driving. No sooner had I completed the maneuver though the police car, who had been cruising along in L1 this whole time, decided to speed up and overtake me before pulling in again right in front of me and slowing back to their roughly 68mph speed. I wasn't about to overtake him again as this seemed a deliberate move on his part (although I'm not sure to what end as I certainly wasn't slowing him down) so the knot of traffic formed around him again until he turned off the motorway soon afterwards.
Once the overtake was completed I indicated, pulled into L1 again and continued - all perfectly, honestly Christian driving. No sooner had I completed the maneuver though the police car, who had been cruising along in L1 this whole time, decided to speed up and overtake me before pulling in again right in front of me and slowing back to their roughly 68mph speed. I wasn't about to overtake him again as this seemed a deliberate move on his part (although I'm not sure to what end as I certainly wasn't slowing him down) so the knot of traffic formed around him again until he turned off the motorway soon afterwards.
Think alot of them just have bad driving habits, consistently see on avon and somerset region bad habits and down right dangerous stuff. Despite claiming to be part of the blue light aware campaign have witnessed RPU/ARU try and bully people by punching the horn over and over again cycling siren tones to force people through blue lights.
PCSOs which my force seem to rely on worry me have seen some pretty hairy stuff in terms of driving at speed on hazard lights in pcso non blue light fiesta. The other week I picked my eldest up from brownies and police vito van driven by a pcso drove in the carpark whilst brownies coming out quit fast and erratic then stopped he checked his phone then took off again at speed across a carpark with children walking accross.
The divisional drivers seem ok in the main but the RPU/ARU seem to be a law unto themselves.
I don't think they bate just drive knowing they are exempt and don't like it if you think you can do the same.
Last summer I was driving a hire fiesta zetec s 1.0 ecoboost suprisingly pokey 123bhp and overtook 4 cars now making a smooth transition back I was coming back just as the solid white line started. Passed some cars do 50mph in national.
30 miles later after sticking pretty much to 60 after this overtake i got on dual track a q7 shoots right up my chuff accelerate to 70 the this q7 stays right up my back side less than 2 seconds. Seemed to be tailgating aggressively and there were cars in lane 1 so decided it was some chump with big car didnt like little cars and open the taps too 100mph. q7 relaxes their following distance and as soon as I can I get to lane 1 and slow down q7 doesnt pass but stays in 2 hogging the lane. Get to the 300yard marker left turn indicator well below 70 mph and the q7 suddenly decides to move to lane 1 causing car behind to brake to let him in shoot up my tail again start turn off and it bangs on comes the blue lights never seen so many on a front of a car.
Never seen this car doesn't have the hall marks of police cant see extra aerials or kit wheels look non standard. Driver hops out very causally dressed jeans and t shirt (passenger a woman does nothing she to is causally dressed) tells me to wait then proceeds to get from the car a police marked high viz vest and pops its on. No radio or anything else. Says I overtook on double white line which I admit I was transitioning back on the double white line but overtake was carried out on broken white line good view and not in conflict with any oncoming traffic. Then says I did 100mph ok, says he could report me driving with due care blah blah, then says he is going to note my reg and if seen again I will be in big trouble. Says he is very busy jumps back in the Chelsea Tractor and ploughs on.
PCSOs which my force seem to rely on worry me have seen some pretty hairy stuff in terms of driving at speed on hazard lights in pcso non blue light fiesta. The other week I picked my eldest up from brownies and police vito van driven by a pcso drove in the carpark whilst brownies coming out quit fast and erratic then stopped he checked his phone then took off again at speed across a carpark with children walking accross.
The divisional drivers seem ok in the main but the RPU/ARU seem to be a law unto themselves.
I don't think they bate just drive knowing they are exempt and don't like it if you think you can do the same.
Last summer I was driving a hire fiesta zetec s 1.0 ecoboost suprisingly pokey 123bhp and overtook 4 cars now making a smooth transition back I was coming back just as the solid white line started. Passed some cars do 50mph in national.
30 miles later after sticking pretty much to 60 after this overtake i got on dual track a q7 shoots right up my chuff accelerate to 70 the this q7 stays right up my back side less than 2 seconds. Seemed to be tailgating aggressively and there were cars in lane 1 so decided it was some chump with big car didnt like little cars and open the taps too 100mph. q7 relaxes their following distance and as soon as I can I get to lane 1 and slow down q7 doesnt pass but stays in 2 hogging the lane. Get to the 300yard marker left turn indicator well below 70 mph and the q7 suddenly decides to move to lane 1 causing car behind to brake to let him in shoot up my tail again start turn off and it bangs on comes the blue lights never seen so many on a front of a car.
Never seen this car doesn't have the hall marks of police cant see extra aerials or kit wheels look non standard. Driver hops out very causally dressed jeans and t shirt (passenger a woman does nothing she to is causally dressed) tells me to wait then proceeds to get from the car a police marked high viz vest and pops its on. No radio or anything else. Says I overtook on double white line which I admit I was transitioning back on the double white line but overtake was carried out on broken white line good view and not in conflict with any oncoming traffic. Then says I did 100mph ok, says he could report me driving with due care blah blah, then says he is going to note my reg and if seen again I will be in big trouble. Says he is very busy jumps back in the Chelsea Tractor and ploughs on.
flemke said:
LoonR1 said:
I didn't claim to be part of the grammar police, or a perfectionist. I just pointed out one of the new trends that annoys me.
Using a singular verb with a plural subject isn't another of the new trends that annoy you? 
O/T
I was heading down the 417/419 to LHR early morning a while back, making more then acceptable progress, when I passed a dark coloured car on one of the bridges. A minute or so later, a dark car had caught me up, and as I looked right I could see the driver (in police uniform) waving a finger at me. I nodded and he popped on his blue lights and disappeared into the distance.
He may not have had any evidence on me, but either way I appreciated the warning and made less but still reasonable progress for the rest of my journey.
MG Ant said:
flemke said:
LoonR1 said:
I didn't claim to be part of the grammar police, or a perfectionist. I just pointed out one of the new trends that annoys me.
Using a singular verb with a plural subject isn't another of the new trends that annoy you? Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff