FAC application, with a prior caution?

FAC application, with a prior caution?

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Timmy40

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12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Just wanted to ask this question before proceeding with a FAC application, I need something more effective than a 12ft lb airgun to control the marauding rabbits on my farm. I don't want to go for an actual rimfire rifle, just to get a FAC rated airgun for better range.

There may be a snag, in the dim and distant past I went out drinking with a load of PH'ers at a well known pub in London, afterwards in my post strawpedo and sambucca state I ended up being cautioned for being inebriated and minor criminal damage ( I cracked a window by leaning against it ).

I don't live in London anymore, and I don't go out and drink sambucca, but there is a caution on record so I know I need to declare it. My question is, will this stop my application for a FAC airgun dead in the water? Is there a best way to go about broaching it with the local FAC team?

It will be a pain if it does as the rabbits are getting to be a real problem, I grow thousands of Xmas trees and rabbits do a lot of damage. So it's directly affecting my livelihood it's not just shooting for fun.

Any input ( esp from BiBs ) would be much appreciated.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Ring up and ask?

Timmy40

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12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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HantsRat said:
Ring up and ask?
That was going to be my next step, was hoping to get some idea of the likely reaction first though on here.

Nightmare

5,187 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Considering some of the people I know with FACs id be amazed if that was enough to block you personally - but it may be more stringent now to get a new one.

That said - In my opinion that's a very ineffective method of actually controlling bunnies - unless you're doing it full time it'll be like pissing in the wind.

Get a couple of farm cats or a lynx would be my suggestion. one of those may not be a serious suggestion.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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You're more dangerous with an axe than a gun.


Timmy40

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12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?
About 7 years ago now.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Nightmare said:
Considering some of the people I know with FACs id be amazed if that was enough to block you personally - but it may be more stringent now to get a new one.

That said - In my opinion that's a very ineffective method of actually controlling bunnies - unless you're doing it full time it'll be like pissing in the wind.

Get a couple of farm cats or a lynx would be my suggestion. one of those may not be a serious suggestion.
Ho would de-odourant kill rabbits?

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Timmy40 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?
About 7 years ago now.
Think it can also depend on your location, some are stricter than others. There's a good chance you'll be fine as long as you come across like a good citizen & have no other record or medical issues.

Timmy40

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12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
Timmy40 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?
About 7 years ago now.
Think it can also depend on your location, some are stricter than others. There's a good chance you'll be fine as long as you come across like a good citizen & have no other record or medical issues.
Should tick those boxes. And I have my own land, as said it's not some random request, it's as a tool for controlling the rabbits.

As to what the other poster said, the warrens aren't on my land, so I can't ferret them, I've never found traps to be very effective. But I have always had success shooting the little buggers. As far as I'm concerned adult bunnies shot over winter won't be producing baby bunnies in Spring.

Nightmare

5,187 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Hooli said:
Nightmare said:
Considering some of the people I know with FACs id be amazed if that was enough to block you personally - but it may be more stringent now to get a new one.

That said - In my opinion that's a very ineffective method of actually controlling bunnies - unless you're doing it full time it'll be like pissing in the wind.

Get a couple of farm cats or a lynx would be my suggestion. one of those may not be a serious suggestion.
How would de-odourant kill rabbits?
Sorry i should have been clearer. A Lynx


ofcorsa

3,527 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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If you can't get permission I'm sure plenty of shooters would relish the opportunity to shoot on your land.

Timmy40

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12,915 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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ofcorsa said:
If you can't get permission I'm sure plenty of shooters would relish the opportunity to shoot on your land.
Yes, loads of people ask about coming and shooting the deer. Thing is the deer have gotten wise to that and vanished. It's rabbits and moles that are the main nuisance. My neighbour shoots the moles.......he's to be seen firing his shotgun into mole hills of a morning, how he still has his toes I don't know.

IPK

286 posts

157 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Best bet is to join BASC.

They have a great free legal team.

http://basc.org.uk/


spikeyhead

17,321 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Timmy40 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?
About 7 years ago now.
Has it really been that long?

killsta

1,729 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Nightmare said:
Sorry i should have been clearer. A Lynx

What about....a lynx? Probably more sensible hehe




spikeyhead

17,321 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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and now to a more sensible form of killing lots of rabbits.

You'll need some chicken wire, some metal posts and a few friends.

Hammer the posts into the ground between where the rabbits eat and their warrens. Lay the chicken wire flat on the ground and tie to the bottom of the posts. Tie some wire to the top of the fencing, through a hole in the tops of the posts and run it out for a decent distance. Then at a suitable time you can pull on all the wires and make the fence stand up.

Wait until all the bunnies are nibbling your tasty crops late one evening at dusk, have a couple of blokes pull the fence up and a load more spring up and sprint at the rabbits, chasing them back to the warrens. The rabbits won't see the fence and will charge into it stunning themselves. Your mates can then bonk them on the head ready for the pot.

Timmy40

Original Poster:

12,915 posts

198 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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spikeyhead said:
Timmy40 said:
LordHaveMurci said:
It'll probably get mentioned during the interview, then a follow up letter from a senior Police officer reminding you of your responsibilities blah blah blah.

How long ago was it?
About 7 years ago now.
Has it really been that long?
Yes, time flies!