Caught doing 120mph on the motorway

[AB]

Wow, this thread has really taken off... in the blink of an eye (so to speak, it's actually been in the last few hours - semantics).

[LoonR1]

popeyewhite said:

Sump said:

popeyewhite said:

Sump said:

No, someone has previously said that it is possible to get to 120 without even realising.

You need glasses, but you can have a prize for making up quotes.

115 / 120

btcc123 said:

After buying my latest car on the way home I turned onto the motorway slip road,pressed the throttle about the same as my previous car while looking to my right at the traffic on the motorway and as I joined the motorway I realised I was doing 115mph that felt like about 70.

120

popeyewhite said:

An E63 AMG or M5 both have in excess of 550bhp. Trust me there's no 'deliberate or sustained effort' involved in hitting 130-140+ in one of those. 70-120? Blink of an eye.

So...you made it up then.

Wow, have you got an M5? I feel so honoured that you're talking to me

I've been in a few, yet never seen the need for me to own a car that size, I've also owned several 911s up to a Turbo and now get my speed kicks elsewhere. However, whatever you bleat on about, if you can't see that you've increased your speed to 120 and think it's easily done, then as others have said it's time to give up driving.

[WinstonWolf]

LoonR1 said:

popeyewhite said:

Sump said:

popeyewhite said:

Sump said:

No, someone has previously said that it is possible to get to 120 without even realising.

You need glasses, but you can have a prize for making up quotes.

115 / 120

btcc123 said:

After buying my latest car on the way home I turned onto the motorway slip road,pressed the throttle about the same as my previous car while looking to my right at the traffic on the motorway and as I joined the motorway I realised I was doing 115mph that felt like about 70.

120

popeyewhite said:

An E63 AMG or M5 both have in excess of 550bhp. Trust me there's no 'deliberate or sustained effort' involved in hitting 130-140+ in one of those. 70-120? Blink of an eye.

So...you made it up then.

Wow, have you got an M5? I feel so honoured that you're talking to me

I've been in a few, yet never seen the need for me to own a car that size, I've also owned several 911s up to a Turbo and now get my speed kicks elsewhere. However, whatever you bleat on about, if you can't see that you've increased your speed to 120 and think it's easily done, then as others have said it's time to give up driving.

Or get a man's car

[LoonR1]

On my way to the pub but tested it in my mates GTR which will comfortably destroy your M5.

4th gear 80 mph to 120mph took 8 seconds with foot to the floor

Same again but in top gear only took 10 seconds

Neither is the blink of an eye and both required my right foot to be buried in the carpet so a very conscious decision.

[anonymous-user]

The E91 M3 comp pack is a masterpiece. The last naturally aspirated M engine we'll see. The F10 M5, I presume we're talking about, is awesome, but it's no-where near as alive or tactile. If you're talking about the E60 M5, then the gearbox voids any comparison as it's a dog. Now that's settled...

What's all this rubbish about not realising you're going 120 MPH? The rate-of-change (or should I use more words to describe that?) and other aspects e.g. how fast you are relative to static points, is built into our subconscious. We have an intuition for judging speed as it's a highly regular world. There are all the tactile aspects and things like the sound of the vehicle we become familiar with. It's a pretty easy thing for a driver to do.

popeyewhite said:

Elroy Blue said:

popeyewhite said:

I was laughing at your use of your profession's nomenclature during a mundane discussion. Just can't help it eh?

What other form of English would you use to describe one car catching another. (I'll just add another )

One car catching another?

Why would you use more words, when a clear, concise and easily interpretable two words will do? It was hardly some esoteric police-acronym or obfuscated 'management speak'.

[JumboBeef]

I'll just add that the works Fords or Skodas will both do 120......but trust me, you know

[Alucidnation]

Just to add that 120MPH on the A31 is very noticeable when you're in the driving seat of any car.

[mybrainhurts]

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

[youngsyr]

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Anyway you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

[mybrainhurts]

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Torque.

youngsyr said:

Any way you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

Dangerous driving, eh? Errr...right.

[WinstonWolf]

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Anyway you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

The only real difference in the A8 is you'll be travelling 25M/s quicker. On a deserted motorway at night you could easily be going much quicker than you think. In the Griff you'll *know* you're doing it whatever.

Some cars are designed to mask the sensation of speed, others are not.

[Pope]

Back on topic

For reference I got 6mths cycling and 750 quid fine for my 212 seconds on the M4 at 1am (dry and, apart from the pesky 330d with his foglights on completely deserted), 4yrs ago.

The 212 seconds was the time it took to pass the BMW at 46mph, accelerate until the traffic officer thought 'I'm limited to 155 so I'll put my lights on now' and for me to stop completely. Charged with Speeding (SP50); 147mph (speed achieved by BMW) when blues went on and I hit the brakes (1second delay - I was literally looking in the mirror and said to myself 'that car hasn't disappeared like I thought it would........?')

I knew exactly what I was doing; risking everything for a thrill - would I do it again? No.

Worth noting:
Paid twice the cost of the fine for a days representation - shouldn't have; made it worse imo
I lost over a stone just cycling to work
Falling off said bike aged 33 hurt a feck sight more than I remembered (grrr tramlines at 6am on a misty autumn morning)
The video (which I got a copy of) didn't catch the reg, colour or make/model of the car in any clarity - yes I have thought what if......

(Upside down vaguely somewhere in Wiltshire most likely....!)

[youngsyr]

mybrainhurts said:

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Torque.

Is that a different torque to the 520 Ftlbs produced by the E55 AMG petrol engine mentioned above?

youngsyr said:

Any way you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

mybrainhurts said:

Dangerous driving, eh? Errr...right.

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A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if

the way he/she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous; or

if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state ... would be dangerous.

---

Deliberately accelerating to 120 mph would be speeding, unknowingly accelerating to 120 mph would fall within the first criteria, wouldn't you say?

Edited by youngsyr on Wednesday 1st July 22:54

[popeyewhite]

LoonR1 said:

Wow, have you got an M5? I feel so honoured that you're talking to me

I own an MB.

You're still honoured.

LoonR1 said:

However, whatever you bleat on about,

You didn't want me to answer your post in which you quoted me? You might have said.

LoonR1 said:

if you can't see that you've increased your speed to 120 and think it's easily done, then as others have said it's time to give up driving.

Funnily enough it's never actually happened to me, but as I said I can imagine it's very easily done in a truly fast car. No, it's not time to give up driving (oh the drama of it - did you need smelling salts you poor dear?) - it's time to understand you're driving an extremely fast car and treat it with renewed respect.

[WinstonWolf]

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Torque.

youngsyr said:

Any way you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

Is that a different torque to the 520 Ftlbs produced by the E55 AMG petrol engine mentioned above?

mybrainhurts said:

Dangerous driving, eh? Errr...right.

---

A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if

the way he/she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous; or

if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state ... would be dangerous.

---

Deliberately accelerating to 120 mph would be speeding, unknowingly accelerating to 120 mph would fall within the first criteria, wouldn't you say?

Not if you did it unknowingly

[popeyewhite]

LoonR1 said:

On my way to the pub but tested it in my mates GTR which will comfortably destroy your M5.

[R8VXF]

Pope said:

Back on topic

For reference I got 6mths cycling and 750 quid fine for my 212 seconds on the M4 at 1am (dry and, apart from the pesky 330d with his foglights on completely deserted), 4yrs ago.

The 212 seconds was the time it took to pass the BMW at 46mph, accelerate until the traffic officer thought 'I'm limited to 155 so I'll put my lights on now' and for me to stop completely. Charged with Speeding (SP50); 147mph (speed achieved by BMW) when blues went on and I hit the brakes (1second delay - I was literally looking in the mirror and said to myself 'that car hasn't disappeared like I thought it would........?')

I knew exactly what I was doing; risking everything for a thrill - would I do it again? No.

Worth noting:
Paid twice the cost of the fine for a days representation - shouldn't have; made it worse imo
I lost over a stone just cycling to work
Falling off said bike aged 33 hurt a feck sight more than I remembered (grrr tramlines at 6am on a misty autumn morning)
The video (which I got a copy of) didn't catch the reg, colour or make/model of the car in any clarity - yes I have thought what if......

(Upside down vaguely somewhere in Wiltshire most likely....!)

Reminds me, I need to get my limiter removed...

[youngsyr]

WinstonWolf said:

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Anyway you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

The only real difference in the A8 is you'll be travelling 25M/s quicker. On a deserted motorway at night you could easily be going much quicker than you think. In the Griff you'll *know* you're doing it whatever.

Some cars are designed to mask the sensation of speed, others are not.

So you admit that you have to ignore that objects are passing you 50 mph faster than they do at the speed limit as well as the fact that you have to accelerate to that speed in the first place, which assuming you do it gradually, is going to take more than 15 seconds, regardless of power.

Those are two factors that I cannot (and never have in 18 years of driving) overlooked.

I would question the driving ability of someone who could.

[mybrainhurts]

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

youngsyr said:

mybrainhurts said:

Sump said:

I'm sorry, you just said in that quote, 120 blink of an eye, no effort etc etc.

We just concluded that was complete BS....

You've not driven a diesel, have you?...

What does the fuel type have to do with it?

Torque.

Is that a different torque to the 520 Ftlbs produced by the E55 AMG petrol engine mentioned above?

youngsyr said:

Any way you cut it, you're going to notice accelerating to 120 mph, whether you do it slowly or quickly. If you don't, it's the definition of dangerous driving.

mybrainhurts said:

Dangerous driving, eh? Errr...right.

---

A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if

the way he/she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous; or

if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state ... would be dangerous.

---

Deliberately accelerating to 120 mph would be speeding, unknowingly accelerating to 120 mph would fall within the first criteria, wouldn't you say?

Why do you consider 120 to be dangerous?

The first criterion has come up before. It's subjective, therefore a bks piece of law making.

[popeyewhite]

La Liga said:

popeyewhite said:

Elroy Blue said:

popeyewhite said:

I was laughing at your use of your profession's nomenclature during a mundane discussion. Just can't help it eh?

What other form of English would you use to describe one car catching another. (I'll just add another )

One car catching another?

Why would you use more words, when a clear, concise and easily interpretable two words will do? It was hardly some esoteric police-acronym or obfuscated 'management speak'.

Do you mean "Why did I say that?". Why all the waffle?