Caught doing 120mph on the motorway

Caught doing 120mph on the motorway

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AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Quick, quick there's a bandwagon to be jumped on.

Pardon me for disproving a load of the crap that gets posted on here about how amazingly fast some cars are. Apologies to those who are offended by me doing that, maybe you could all accuse me of having no mechanical sympathy as that seems to be the latest bullst bingo phrase on here.
I cry when something breaks on one of my vehicles. Is that mechanical sympathy?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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AW111 said:
I cry when something breaks on one of my vehicles. Is that mechanical sympathy?
No idea. I think it means I drive round at low revs and very slowly so that nothing ever wears out on my car or bike.

I drive / ride them as they were designed to be used.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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On a thread about being caught doing 120 mph in an Alfa 147 why are people now talking about 500 bhp saloon cars? How is that relevant?

I'm also not sure how long you guys blink for. If anyone thinks any road car gets from 80-120 in the time it takes you to blink then they need their head looking at laugh

Even if you do actually blink for 5 seconds or more then you are still talking about an insignificant proportion of cars on the road.

The vast majority of German luxo barges have 2-3 litre diesel engines and knowhere near 500 bhp wink

Devil2575

13,400 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
AW111 said:
I cry when something breaks on one of my vehicles. Is that mechanical sympathy?
No idea. I think it means I drive round at low revs and very slowly so that nothing ever wears out on my car or bike.

I drive / ride them as they were designed to be used.
I don't think most people who use the term "mechanical sympathy" actually know what it means. Like you say, some people seem to think it means never revving an engine past 3000 rpm.

AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Devil2575 said:
I don't think most people who use the term "mechanical sympathy" actually know what it means. Like you say, some people seem to think it means never revving an engine past 3000 rpm.
We may as well stay off topic until the OP tells us how things panned out...

Are those drivers who labour up hills at 1500 rpm in top gear, pinging merrily all the way, mechanically sympathetic then?

3,000 rpm is just a fast idle, isn't it?

Heaveho

5,278 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Pardon me for disproving a load of the crap that gets posted on here about how amazingly fast some cars are.
But why would you bother? Nobody cares about you disproving or proving anything. It's just plain weird that you take it all so seriously.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Heaveho said:
LoonR1 said:
Pardon me for disproving a load of the crap that gets posted on here about how amazingly fast some cars are.
But why would you bother? Nobody cares about you disproving or proving anything. It's just plain weird that you take it all so seriously.
Because I could. Because I wanted to and because the opportunity was there. Not sure why it bothers you so much though. I chose to do it and potentially risk my licence, not that that was particularly likely.

It called the points that were being made out as BS, there's way too much chavvy / childish claims of light speed cars on this site IMO and I just figured it'd be good to show them up for being just that.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Heaveho said:
LoonR1 said:
Pardon me for disproving a load of the crap that gets posted on here about how amazingly fast some cars are.
But why would you bother? Nobody cares about you disproving or proving anything. It's just plain weird that you take it all so seriously.
Because I could. Because I wanted to and because the opportunity was there. Not sure why it bothers you so much though. I chose to do it and potentially risk my licence, not that that was particularly likely.

It called the points that were being made out as BS, there's way too much chavvy / childish claims of light speed cars on this site IMO and I just figured it'd be good to show them up for being just that.
So when are you actually going to do it?

Heaveho

5,278 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Because I could. Because I wanted to and because the opportunity was there. Not sure why it bothers you so much though. I chose to do it and potentially risk my licence, not that that was particularly likely.

It called the points that were being made out as BS, there's way too much chavvy / childish claims of light speed cars on this site IMO and I just figured it'd be good to show them up for being just that.
But you haven't proven anything......all you've done is gone away, come back again, and said you'd done something to prove others were talking BS. That's not proof, that's you asking us to believe you, which is pretty ironic considering how often you claim not to believe anything anyone else says.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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What do you want me to do then? Define it exactly so that you'll be happy. Oh and I'm not doing it tonight, as it's pissing it down.

Heaveho

5,278 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Lol, talk about missing the point............

Look, you're clearly happy with your way of addressing what you see as issues that need clarification, don't let me complicate your chosen path. The stuff that happens, or is said on this forum, really isn't that big a deal, not everyone's here to be contradicted, or challenged. I find the idea that you did what you did, simply to put an internet rival in their place, mildly astonishing, but if you feel you've achieved something worthwhile by doing so, congratulations.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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youngsyr said:
I've driven cars with 500+ bhp on track - yes they can put on immense speed "in the blink of an eye", of course they can, but that's not my point!

My point is that you will notice gaining 50 mph in a few seconds, so you won't ever do it accidentally or without noticing!

Frankly, anyone who hits 120 mph without noticing or even trying should hand their licence in at the first opportunity to save the rest of us, whatever the car.
This. There seem to be a lot of posters on PH who despite claiming in some threads to be a good enough driver to be able to pick an appropriate speed themselves then admit to being able to accidentally hit 120 mph and not realise it.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Heaveho said:
Lol, talk about missing the point............

Look, you're clearly happy with your way of addressing what you see as issues that need clarification, don't let me complicate your chosen path. The stuff that happens, or is said on this forum, really isn't that big a deal, not everyone's here to be contradicted, or challenged. I find the idea that you did what you did, simply to put an internet rival in their place, mildly astonishing, but if you feel you've achieved something worthwhile by doing so, congratulations.
Not really missing the point at all. This thread has a significant number of posters who think their car can:
1. Go from 80 to 120 with minimal input
2. Do it in such a way that you have no idea that you're doing 120
3. Do it in the blink of an eye

I tested two pretty quick cars. The outcome was that it took 8-10 seconds even in the most powerful (a 550bhp GTR) with my foot buried in the carpet.

That shows

1. It takes quite a bit of input to go form 80 to 120
2. I knew I was doing 120
3. It didn't happen in the blink of an eye

That kind of disproves it and to suggest that an executive salon can outperform those times is quite frankly farcical.

Whatever you think of me doing this, I was calling out the PH bravado around "my car is soooooooo fast and I'm a multi company Director with a goatee and a Red Bull sponsorship contract" blah, blah. It's dull amd bullst and far too often quoted. I happen to have a pretty quick car and access to an even quicker one. That doesn't make me special, but it does mean I can check things IrL, rather than reading it in a magazine and churning it out as fact.

Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 7th July 20:25

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

162 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Devil2575 said:
youngsyr said:
I've driven cars with 500+ bhp on track - yes they can put on immense speed "in the blink of an eye", of course they can, but that's not my point!

My point is that you will notice gaining 50 mph in a few seconds, so you won't ever do it accidentally or without noticing!

Frankly, anyone who hits 120 mph without noticing or even trying should hand their licence in at the first opportunity to save the rest of us, whatever the car.
This. There seem to be a lot of posters on PH who despite claiming in some threads to be a good enough driver to be able to pick an appropriate speed themselves then admit to being able to accidentally hit 120 mph and not realise it.
So you've never looked at your speedo in any circumstance and thought/said "christ I didn't realise I was going that quick"?

Heaveho

5,278 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Stuff.
But none of the people you've shown to be wrong care that you've done so. And you haven't proved anything anyway, all you've done is said you have.

As it happens, I quite agree that you couldn't not notice that you were doing 120, at least not in the UK, but to be bothered enough when someone disagrees with that to go and try it, just leaves me glad I don't have that much spare time on my hands. Sorry if that flies in the face of your attitude to logical thinking.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Heaveho said:
But none of the people you've shown to be wrong care that you've done so. And you haven't proved anything anyway, all you've done is said you have.

As it happens, I quite agree that you couldn't not notice that you were doing 120, at least not in the UK, but to be bothered enough when someone disagrees with that to go and try it, just leaves me glad I don't have that much spare time on my hands. Sorry if that flies in the face of your attitude to logical thinking.
They care enough to have disappeared and aren't quite so mouthy now. I have done it, but as I said before I'd video it and even say something, or have something in the car to prove it was me doing it. Again, they care enough to not take me up on the offer and have vanished from the thread.

I call people's bluff. Once in a while it backfires, but that is so rare compared to the amount of times the bullstters vanish that I can live with the odd embarrassment like that.

I have a lot of spare time. This week, I'll spend 4 days on track, the same next week and have done this for most of the year so far. It's quite good fun.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Heaveho said:
Lol, talk about missing the point............

Look, you're clearly happy with your way of addressing what you see as issues that need clarification, don't let me complicate your chosen path. The stuff that happens, or is said on this forum, really isn't that big a deal, not everyone's here to be contradicted, or challenged. I find the idea that you did what you did, simply to put an internet rival in their place, mildly astonishing, but if you feel you've achieved something worthwhile by doing so, congratulations.
Not really missing the point at all. This thread has a significant number of posters who think their car can:
1. Go from 80 to 120 with minimal input
2. Do it in such a way that you have no idea that you're doing 120
3. Do it in the blink of an eye

I tested two pretty quick cars. The outcome was that it took 8-10 seconds even in the most powerful (a 550bhp GTR) with my foot buried in the carpet.

That shows

1. It takes quite a bit of input to go form 80 to 120
2. I knew I was doing 120
3. It didn't happen in the blink of an eye

That kind of disproves it and to suggest that an executive salon can outperform those times is quite frankly farcical.

Whatever you think of me doing this, I was calling out the PH bravado around "my car is soooooooo fast and I'm a multi company Director with a goatee and a Red Bull sponsorship contract" blah, blah. It's dull amd bullst and far too often quoted. I happen to have a pretty quick car and access to an even quicker one. That doesn't make me special, but it does mean I can check things IrL, rather than reading it in a magazine and churning it out as fact.

Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 7th July 20:25
No one has said it's about times, they have said that luxo barges mask the speed from the occupants. BHP doesn't make for a *deceptively* quick car, high torque diesel does.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
No one has said it's about times, they have said that luxo barges mask the speed from the occupants. BHP doesn't make for a *deceptively* quick car, high torque diesel does.
Oh FFS. Here we go again.

Be absolutely specific in your answers to the following questions. Then ask Amy more and I will answer them specifically

1. Do you believe your car can go from 80 to 120mph with minimal accelerator input?
2. Do you believe that when doing 120mph there is no way for you to tell that you are if you don't look at the the speedo?
3. Do you believe that it can go from 80 to 120 in the blink of an eye

These are all yes / no questions

Answer them as such then ask your questions afterwards.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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StottyEvo said:
So you've never looked at your speedo in any circumstance and thought/said "christ I didn't realise I was going that quick"?
Yes, but I've never thought I was doing 70 but actually been doing 120 mph.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
WinstonWolf said:
No one has said it's about times, they have said that luxo barges mask the speed from the occupants. BHP doesn't make for a *deceptively* quick car, high torque diesel does.
Oh FFS. Here we go again.

Be absolutely specific in your answers to the following questions. Then ask Amy more and I will answer them specifically

1. Do you believe your car can go from 80 to 120mph with minimal accelerator input?
2. Do you believe that when doing 120mph there is no way for you to tell that you are if you don't look at the the speedo?
3. Do you believe that it can go from 80 to 120 in the blink of an eye

These are all yes / no questions

Answer them as such then ask your questions afterwards.
They're not.