Am I a grabbing money loving g*t?

Am I a grabbing money loving g*t?

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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ColinM50 said:
there's no mention as to what to do with (the Kruggerands)... so the executors intend to just include their value with the rest of his estate.
They don't just "intend" to. It would be illegal for them to do anything else.

Unless a variation to the will is made, with the agreement of the executors and any beneficiaries who would end up worse off, then the will is exactly what must happen to his estate in law. If the executors just said "Oh, right, well in that case" and handed you either any item of property of the value of it (be that a tenner or £40k or however much), then the beneficiaries of that will would be perfectly within their rights to throw the book at the executor.

https://www.gov.uk/alter-a-will-after-a-death

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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YYABAMGG.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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OP.

Nothing to add to the comments made by most, I'm not so much on the money grabbing git side, more the "It is unfortunate that he did not include the specific gift of these to your wife in his Will. Asking the relatives for them would likely get a two word answer, the second word being off. It would also likely harm any relationship you may have with these people and their families."

FWIW in my head as I was reading your post I suspect the coins became the jewellery in the old boys head.

ColinM50

Original Poster:

2,631 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Thanks all fopr your comments. most of which has been constructive.

He was 97 when he died and though his body was starting to let him down, he had the sharpest intellect of anybody I know. Was up to speed with current affairs and in many cases could tell you what the government would do about an issue before it happened. A chartered accountant, he knew the value of a pound. To him it was worth £1.50 'cos he'd show/tell you how to invest it. Told us once what particular pharma shares to invest in purely from reading the FT and he was dead right. Within three months they'd doubled but we didn't have the wherewithal to follow his advice.

Anyway, I sort of thought we had nowhere to go with this, as someone said if he'd really wanted my wife to have the KR's he'd have put a codicil in his will.

I haven't brought this issue up with his rellys though we've never had anything to do with any of them.

I bought his will from the probate website on-line and saw there what the will said and the grant of probate. Won't bother trying to do anything, just thought the Q was worth asking. Unfortunately I agree. Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Oh noes! You didn't get a shedload of unearned cash! Never mind, perhaps a tune from this exceedingly tiny violin will help.

Sorry if that seems, grumpy, OP, but not really, as yer latest post does reinforce the MGG diagnosis.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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ColinM50 said:
Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
You may like to recalculate that, if it's of any consolation.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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ColinM50 said:
Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
Good to know that you wanted them for their sentimental value and as a memory of your wife's godfather.rolleyes

ColinM50

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2,631 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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berlintaxi said:
Good to know that you wanted them for their sentimental value and as a memory of your wife's godfather.rolleyes
True
biggrin

Rosscow

8,755 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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ColinM50 said:
Thanks all fopr your comments. most of which has been constructive.

He was 97 when he died and though his body was starting to let him down, he had the sharpest intellect of anybody I know. Was up to speed with current affairs and in many cases could tell you what the government would do about an issue before it happened. A chartered accountant, he knew the value of a pound. To him it was worth £1.50 'cos he'd show/tell you how to invest it. Told us once what particular pharma shares to invest in purely from reading the FT and he was dead right. Within three months they'd doubled but we didn't have the wherewithal to follow his advice.

Anyway, I sort of thought we had nowhere to go with this, as someone said if he'd really wanted my wife to have the KR's he'd have put a codicil in his will.

I haven't brought this issue up with his rellys though we've never had anything to do with any of them.

I bought his will from the probate website on-line and saw there what the will said and the grant of probate. Won't bother trying to do anything, just thought the Q was worth asking. Unfortunately I agree. Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
A shame indeed - you could have bought a decent tow car with that wink

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
ColinM50 said:
Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
You may like to recalculate that, if it's of any consolation.
This makes you sound worse.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Magic919 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
ColinM50 said:
Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
You may like to recalculate that, if it's of any consolation.
This makes you sound worse.
I'll take that as a whoosh.

lbc

3,215 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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The OP is nothing but a money grabbing gold digger. biggrin

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
I'll take that as a whoosh.
What's it got to do with you?

Thankyou4calling

10,601 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Has he died??

No one told me.

I used to go round and mow his grass, he told me I can have his krugerrands too, definitely did, said there were about 50, happy to go halves if you were promised too.

What's the executors address so I can out my claim in please.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
Has he died??

halves
Thirds actually. I used to have to listen to his stories about people who only came once a year and people that cut the grass.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Magic919 said:
What's it got to do with you?
It's a public forum, 2CV is entitled to point out that someone made a simple maths error. You are entitled to take it completely out of context and make an aggressive statement that makes you look stupid if you want to.

I'm entitled to point that out that you just did.

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
ColinM50 said:
Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
You may like to recalculate that, if it's of any consolation.
...but there isn't any tax payable by the recipient.

Thankyou4calling

10,601 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Look, stop arguing over the maths. I mowed the blokes lawn, or at least think I did, and if I didn't so what, I'll say I did and Northwest Monkey and I have agreed to split the proceeds of the Krugerands so back off.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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ColinM50 said:
Thanks all fopr your comments. most of which has been constructive.

He was 97 when he died and though his body was starting to let him down, he had the sharpest intellect of anybody I know. Was up to speed with current affairs and in many cases could tell you what the government would do about an issue before it happened. A chartered accountant, he knew the value of a pound. To him it was worth £1.50 'cos he'd show/tell you how to invest it. Told us once what particular pharma shares to invest in purely from reading the FT and he was dead right. Within three months they'd doubled but we didn't have the wherewithal to follow his advice.

Anyway, I sort of thought we had nowhere to go with this, as someone said if he'd really wanted my wife to have the KR's he'd have put a codicil in his will.

I haven't brought this issue up with his rellys though we've never had anything to do with any of them.

I bought his will from the probate website on-line and saw there what the will said and the grant of probate. Won't bother trying to do anything, just thought the Q was worth asking. Unfortunately I agree. Shame it'd have been nice to get the KR's, worth about £730 each so 50 are £360k less tax of course.
If he was an accountant he'll have been telling EVERYBODY how he'd remember them in their will. biglaugh

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
Oh noes! You didn't get a shedload of unearned cash!
...but some random distant relatives did. A very decent shed-load, too.

Why shouldn't our guy share a relatively tiny piece? After all, his missus was promised it.

Swines, these old people - they promise money to all and sundry to try and curry favour.