Insurance requires a copy of driving licence by law

Insurance requires a copy of driving licence by law

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Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Online quotes last month asked for driving licence numbers for named drivers, in many instances. Even quite recently when I renewed the barge it wasn't required.

I have no issue providing it as a means to ensure the accuracy of the information the insurer holds in setting a premium and confirming your entitlement to drive.

I just wish when anything like this changes (incl the abolition of the paper counterpart) that the reasons were explained and articulated by all those involved. My local main dealer still insists on seeing my paper counterpart, even after I highlighted and provided a link to the DVLA info showing what they're supposed to do now. It appears it's all too difficult....

alangla

4,762 posts

181 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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ging84 said:
do they care about entitlements?
i thought lack of valid drivers license was of the reasons they could refuse a 3rd party claim
My bike insurers asked for scans of both sides of the photocard & the counterpart along with the usual proof of NCB. I assumed it was to check I had a full cat A licence & that I'd held that category for the time I'd claimed on the application form.
My insurance last year (same insurer, but via a different broker) didn't ask for anything related to the licence, so not sure if it was a broker or insurer policy.

Mandalore

4,209 posts

113 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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This is just a silly case of the company being a bit late in training their call centre staff on the changes about paper counterparts no longer being a necessary part of the DL - as its all now computerised.

The Tesco email address is probably because the person was too young to remember Tesco's foray as an ISP and his question would seem genuine as a result.


Absolutely nothing to worry about.




Rick101

6,965 posts

150 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Mandalore said:
This is just a silly case of the company being a bit late in training their call centre staff on the changes
Have to say this lack of training really riles me. Have suffered it on both sides and in most cases its the management just absolutely not giving a st about offering a decent service. Just cheapest operating cost.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Rick101 said:
Have to say this lack of training really riles me. Have suffered it on both sides and in most cases its the management just absolutely not giving a st about offering a decent service. Just cheapest operating cost.
I wonder what drives the need for such low operating costs?

Terminator X

15,031 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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GC8 said:
LoonR1 said:
There's a good chance that most (if not all) insurers wil soon start asking for your driving licence number and permission to confirm points online. Refusal is likely to lead to a much higher premium / refusal to quote for obvious reasons.
Wont they require your NI number in order to do this, or is there a direct channel available to them?
Perhaps coincidence but I'm test driving a car tomorrow and dealer has asked for licence and NI number.

TX.

Terminator X

15,031 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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lee_fr200 said:
Our insurance has asked for our driving licences so we gave them the details they also wanted a picture of the counterpart sending showing no points which we did

I guess you would only refuse if you have something to hide
Or if you don't like third parties prying?

TX.

Duvuk

26 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I had my renewal due the other day and noticed on the comparison site that they wanted driving licence number, although this was optional.

I suspect this might change in future and become mandatory. It's always surprised me that it isn't too be honest.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Terminator X said:
Or if you don't like third parties prying?

TX.
Too right. Don't tell them your registration number either, or model of car, or age or where you live.

Wibble

Terminator X

15,031 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Terminator X said:
Or if you don't like third parties prying?

TX.
Too right. Don't tell them your registration number either, or model of car, or age or where you live.

Wibble
Ha ha you're on form ...



TX.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Terminator X said:
Perhaps coincidence but I'm test driving a car tomorrow and dealer has asked for licence and NI number.

TX.
Surely the way to do it is to go online and generate the code for them to access the details? Then they don't need your NI number.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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BertBert said:
Surely the way to do it is to go online and generate the code for them to access the details? Then they don't need your NI number.
There's a different portal for insurers to access the info. No NI number needed

Rick101

6,965 posts

150 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I wonder what drives the need for such low operating costs?
Not me. I'll often pay more to be able to get a decent service.

That is quite a simplistic way of looking at it though, just blame the customer who wants a good rate. Companies with underpaid, undertrained and underappreciated staff will often have high staff turnover. There are better ways of managing company finances than just fking over those at the sharp end.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Rick101 said:
Not me. I'll often pay more to be able to get a decent service.

That is quite a simplistic way of looking at it though, just blame the customer who wants a good rate. Companies with underpaid, undertrained and underappreciated staff will often have high staff turnover. There are better ways of managing company finances than just fking over those at the sharp end.
You're in the minority. Oh and insurers helped create this mess with the "cheap insurance for all, cut out the middleman" type adverts of the late 80s.

You can't justify mega staff investment with no guarantee of loyal customers / increased premium income to shareholders. Those who do offer this level of service have a very niche product that is absolutely not aimed at the masses. Staff turnover will always be there, even highly trained staff get poached by competitors for more money or the option to specialise in one specific area.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Terminator X said:
GC8 said:
LoonR1 said:
There's a good chance that most (if not all) insurers wil soon start asking for your driving licence number and permission to confirm points online. Refusal is likely to lead to a much higher premium / refusal to quote for obvious reasons.
Wont they require your NI number in order to do this, or is there a direct channel available to them?
Perhaps coincidence but I'm test driving a car tomorrow and dealer has asked for licence and NI number.

TX.
You should have refused and given him a code. He will be applying for access as you now.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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The DVLA and MIB launched the MyLicense initiative at the start of the year, whereby insurers can check licenses online. This will have lead to an increase in insurers asking for this info.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dvla-and-mib-an...

As to why scans are being requested, a recent increase in forgeries may be one reason.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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But as Loon has pointed out, they don't need your NI number.

Mandalore

4,209 posts

113 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Rick101 said:
Mandalore said:
This is just a silly case of the company being a bit late in training their call centre staff on the changes
Have to say this lack of training really riles me. Have suffered it on both sides and in most cases its the management just absolutely not giving a st about offering a decent service. Just cheapest operating cost.
It could also be that they haven't updated their systems if they use integrated workflow.

In such systems, all the logical thinking is built in an IT (the system) asks for the call centre guy to upload the paper copy as one of the 'steps'.
The idea is to reduce user error, by dumbing down the humans contribution.





anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Just read this on an Insurance News site:

"Around a fifth of the motor insurance industry is using the My Licence scheme, six months after the joint initiative between the Motor Insurers' Bureau and the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency went live"


So 18% of the motor market is using the system.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Mandalore said:
Rick101 said:
Mandalore said:
This is just a silly case of the company being a bit late in training their call centre staff on the changes
Have to say this lack of training really riles me. Have suffered it on both sides and in most cases its the management just absolutely not giving a st about offering a decent service. Just cheapest operating cost.
It could also be that they haven't updated their systems if they use integrated workflow.

In such systems, all the logical thinking is built in an IT (the system) asks for the call centre guy to upload the paper copy as one of the 'steps'.
The idea is to reduce user error, by dumbing down the humans contribution.
So if there is no paper copy to upload, the system has a hissy fit and goes on strike? Little Britain is alive and well. rolleyes