Bizarre ruling
Discussion
http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/marlow/13334507.Lo...outrageous__school_speed_limit_dropped_due_tolack_of_funding_/
A council has decided not to lower a speed limit from NSL. The particular spot on the road into Henley on Thames from Marlow which is causing the controversy is one where nobody in their right mind would do much more than 40 anyway so the limit is irrelevant. But there are plenty of places on the same road where 60 is perfectly feasible so you'd think the council would be itching to lower the limit to 50 along the entire stretch.
The reason given for not lowering the limit earlier was funding, strange since budget is usually no object when councils want to cut limits. They almost seem to see replacing NSL signs with 50s as a good way of disposing of surplus cash. Is it simply that so few people will exceed 40 that they won't issue enough tickets?
What exactly is the councils agenda here?
A council has decided not to lower a speed limit from NSL. The particular spot on the road into Henley on Thames from Marlow which is causing the controversy is one where nobody in their right mind would do much more than 40 anyway so the limit is irrelevant. But there are plenty of places on the same road where 60 is perfectly feasible so you'd think the council would be itching to lower the limit to 50 along the entire stretch.
The reason given for not lowering the limit earlier was funding, strange since budget is usually no object when councils want to cut limits. They almost seem to see replacing NSL signs with 50s as a good way of disposing of surplus cash. Is it simply that so few people will exceed 40 that they won't issue enough tickets?
What exactly is the councils agenda here?
Dammit said:
I seem to recall hearing something about this "austerity" thing recently, not sure whether you follow the news at all but I'm sure you might find something about it there?
Even in 2011 Oxfordshire found the money to put 50 signs on almost every former NSL road in the county, so I doubt that's the problem.
Jasandjules said:
No, reduce speed limit, place cameras all over the show. £££ come rolling in...
What's the return on a camera site? If you go add up all the costs, planning, install, maintenance, blah blah blah?I know it's a touchstone of the Pistonheads faith that speed camera's are a raging torrent of revenue for whomsoever has installed them, but is that demonstrably true?
Dammit said:
Jasandjules said:
No, reduce speed limit, place cameras all over the show. £££ come rolling in...
What's the return on a camera site? If you go add up all the costs, planning, install, maintenance, blah blah blah?I know it's a touchstone of the Pistonheads faith that speed camera's are a raging torrent of revenue for whomsoever has installed them, but is that demonstrably true?
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Dammit said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Even in 2011 Oxfordshire found the money to put 50 signs on almost every former NSL road in the county, so I doubt that's the problem.
How is that relevant?Dr Jekyll said:
If councils (Warwickshire did something similar) were prepared to put 50 signs all over everywhere at the height of the financial crisis. It shows that councils aren't prepared to let a little thing like shortage of money get in the way of reducing speed limits. It's normally money no object.
You know council budget is usually agreed in advance of these things? And their budget has been reduced year on year if you believe the crap they spout?Everybody loves the uneducated trying to spout bile.
As a reasonably educated guess the local HA will have done a cost benefit analysis which will have shown, probably, that they wont see as much in the way of reduction in Killed & Seriously Injured statistics for the costs of the limit reduction at this location as they would at other locations & that they are better off spending their limited funding elsewhere.
FWIW speed camera revenue does not go directly to the local authority & they can't use it to fund traffic engineering schemes.
FWIW speed camera revenue does not go directly to the local authority & they can't use it to fund traffic engineering schemes.
Collectingbrass said:
As a reasonably educated guess the local HA will have done a cost benefit analysis which will have shown, probably, that they wont see as much in the way of reduction in Killed & Seriously Injured statistics for the costs of the limit reduction at this location as they would at other locations & that they are better off spending their limited funding elsewhere.
FWIW speed camera revenue does not go directly to the local authority & they can't use it to fund traffic engineering schemes.
So when Warwickshire put almost every previously NSL SC in the county down to 50 that was the result of a series of cost benefit analyses all showing the same result at the same time? Have you ever actually met a councillor?FWIW speed camera revenue does not go directly to the local authority & they can't use it to fund traffic engineering schemes.
Pegscratch said:
You know council budget is usually agreed in advance of these things? And their budget has been reduced year on year if you believe the crap they spout?.
They've always spent money in odd ways, our council had just spent a small fortune fitting LED lights that light up about 10ft round the lamp post , to the residents surprise they then started putting what looks like the sort of thing you'd fill with concrete and drop in the sea as a flood defence all down the central reservation of a dual carriageway.Then they came along and filled them with flowers,
Pegscratch said:
You know council budget is usually agreed in advance of these things? And their budget has been reduced year on year if you believe the crap they spout?.
They've always spent money in odd ways, our council had just spent a small fortune fitting LED lights that light up about 10ft round the lamp post , to the residents surprise they then started putting what looks like the sort of thing you'd fill with concrete and drop in the sea as a flood defence all down the central reservation of a dual carriageway.Then they came along and filled them with flowers,
wack said:
They've always spent money in odd ways, our council had just spent a small fortune fitting LED lights that light up about 10ft round the lamp post
This is usually sensible for 2 reasons. LED's are extremely efficient at lighting.
They reduce light pollution, an absolute boon for anyone who enjoys the beauty of a clear night.
esxste said:
They reduce light pollution, an absolute boon for anyone who enjoys the beauty of a clear night.
So, owls and Professor Brian Cox then?We've got LED street lights around our gaff. They look nice as the light isn't as harsh as the old yellow sodium lighting, and I sleep well at night knowing I've saved a polar bear cub, but in terms of actually illuminating the roads and pavements, they are crap.
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