Overtaking at a speed bump
Discussion
I understand the OP's situation.
I'm on 40 profile tyres and fairly stiff suspension so 20mph limits with speed bumps usually see me go over them at about 10mph max. On a road with several speed bumps this could be quite annoying for someone that can cruise over them at 20mph.
I'd say if police seen you do it, they might pull you over to see what the hurry is, or try and imply you were speeding / inconsiderate driving but strictly speaking i don't think there's anything they can do as long as you don't breach the limit and ensure the road and surroundings are clear when you do it.
I'm on 40 profile tyres and fairly stiff suspension so 20mph limits with speed bumps usually see me go over them at about 10mph max. On a road with several speed bumps this could be quite annoying for someone that can cruise over them at 20mph.
I'd say if police seen you do it, they might pull you over to see what the hurry is, or try and imply you were speeding / inconsiderate driving but strictly speaking i don't think there's anything they can do as long as you don't breach the limit and ensure the road and surroundings are clear when you do it.
My car has to be slowed almost to walking pace on some of them so I'm always pleased when someone overtakes me since my impact on their journey caused by miserable nimbys who bought a house only to discover there was a road outside is minimised.
And as regards the useful idiots agreeing with speed humps they are the reason so much crappery goes on, so thanks.
And as regards the useful idiots agreeing with speed humps they are the reason so much crappery goes on, so thanks.
I kind of agree with the sentiments of the OP.
If the speed limit on a road is 20 or 30mph, why are they then littered with obstacles to prevent you from legally driving up to the speed limit?
Pretty much all my cars are very 'sensitive' to bumps in the road, so enevitably I end up crawling over every single one at walking pace to avoid causing damage, and then speeding up rapidly before the next one in order to give the drivers behind slight relief from my walking pace crawl.
To be honest, I can't believe that speed bumps are actually legal.
I'm not a dhead, if I'm in a residential area or near a playground or something I will probably drive at less than the posted limit as I often consider 30mph to be too fast for some residential areas, but I feel irked that the council sees fit to litter the road with obstacles that potentially damage my car. If you want people to do 20mph then change the speed limit and ask the police to enforce it.
If the speed limit on a road is 20 or 30mph, why are they then littered with obstacles to prevent you from legally driving up to the speed limit?
Pretty much all my cars are very 'sensitive' to bumps in the road, so enevitably I end up crawling over every single one at walking pace to avoid causing damage, and then speeding up rapidly before the next one in order to give the drivers behind slight relief from my walking pace crawl.
To be honest, I can't believe that speed bumps are actually legal.
I'm not a dhead, if I'm in a residential area or near a playground or something I will probably drive at less than the posted limit as I often consider 30mph to be too fast for some residential areas, but I feel irked that the council sees fit to litter the road with obstacles that potentially damage my car. If you want people to do 20mph then change the speed limit and ask the police to enforce it.
Ayahuasca said:
HantsRat said:
Speed bumps are put in place with the sole reason to slow vehicles down at specific points. Why on earth would you overtake on one? Can't you just wait until after the speed bump?
Because I want to. The question is, is it breaking any law?
Ayahuasca said:
HantsRat said:
Speed bumps are put in place with the sole reason to slow vehicles down at specific points. Why on earth would you overtake on one? Can't you just wait until after the speed bump?
Because I want to. The question is, is it breaking any law?
V8forweekends said:
Often wondered about speed bumps - if the limit is, say 30, how can they put stuff in the road that makes 30mph impossible? Isn't that a de-facto lower limit?
They don't. If a speed bump is there then it must be possible to go over it at the speed limit without damaging your car. If that isn't possible then you can have it removed via an appeal to the local council. Although IME what tends to happen is the speed limit is reducedLoonR1 said:
They don't. If a speed bump is there then it must be possible to go over it at the speed limit without damaging your car. If that isn't possible then you can have it removed via an appeal to the local council. Although IME what tends to happen is the speed limit is reduced
They would literally have to remove them all round here! Half the village is a no go zone if you own anything vaguely nice or lowered :-(DeaconFrost said:
They would literally have to remove them all round here! Half the village is a no go zone if you own anything vaguely nice or lowered :-(
Then get an architect or someone to inspect them and appeal it. I've got an M3 and you'd be amazed just how easy some bumps are to get over. The speed cushion blobs in the road I just drive straight over and don't slow down. People think they've got a lot lessClearance than they actually have.
ging84 said:
Stop bleeting crap, the last thread you were trying to say this offense could be applied to anyone who accelerates harshly, now you are saying it can be used against anyone who over takes anyone, the really worrying thing is you seem to be a police officer, which means you have the authority to issue tickets for this kind of bks.
If you took the time to actually read what I said... I said it all depends on the circumstances at the time. None of us was there at the time so can't give a full explanation. I simply said that if certain things were present at the time, it could constitute careless driving. Your exaggerating things as I never said anyone who overtakes or accelerates is driving carelessly.
ging84 said:
HantsRat said:
Driving without reasonable consideration
"This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. "
Inconvenience could affect the vehicle you are overtaking due to the sudden unexpected overtake when the other vehicle is taking the speed bump carefully. It could shock them and cause them to vere off and break sharply. Plus oncoming vehicles (if there were any) may need to slow down.
As I said though, it would all depend on the circumstances at the time and if a police officer saw you thought it ticks the boxes for this offence.
Stop bleeting crap, the last thread you were trying to say this offense could be applied to anyone who accelerates harshly, now you are saying it can be used against anyone who over takes anyone, the really worrying thing is you seem to be a police officer, which means you have the authority to issue tickets for this kind of bks. "This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. "
Inconvenience could affect the vehicle you are overtaking due to the sudden unexpected overtake when the other vehicle is taking the speed bump carefully. It could shock them and cause them to vere off and break sharply. Plus oncoming vehicles (if there were any) may need to slow down.
As I said though, it would all depend on the circumstances at the time and if a police officer saw you thought it ticks the boxes for this offence.
I bet has a little black rat on the bumper of his Mondeo, too.
I had someone try to overtake on a set of the square humps once. I had slowed to the usual 10mph required for mechanical sympathy and started to accelerate before I noticed. I don't think they were doing 30mph though or they would have managed to get past while I was still going over the lump. Next set I was ready to hold off if they tried again, but they did not bother.
They maybe thought I was deliberately blocking them and decided not to try again. The problem is that I do all of my spatial obs on the approach, once I start braking mainly I am looking forward for potholes before and after the lump and anyone that might move into the road in front. Looking for people doing an overtake at a hazard was not something I looked for.
They maybe thought I was deliberately blocking them and decided not to try again. The problem is that I do all of my spatial obs on the approach, once I start braking mainly I am looking forward for potholes before and after the lump and anyone that might move into the road in front. Looking for people doing an overtake at a hazard was not something I looked for.
NinjaPower said:
I'm not a dhead, if I'm in a residential area or near a playground or something I will probably drive at less than the posted limit as I often consider 30mph to be too fast for some residential areas, but I feel irked that the council sees fit to litter the road with obstacles that potentially damage my car.
Not everybody has your common sense attitude. Hence the need for these things. Unfortunately. HantsRat said:
Speed bumps are put in place with the sole reason to slow vehicles down at specific points. Why on earth would you overtake on one? Can't you just wait until after the speed bump?
this is something that actually gets right on my tits. speed bumps should not cause people to slow down below the actual limit in force for the road. if the limit is too high, reduce it,rather than cluttering the road with crap that accelerates tyre and mechanical wear for no good reason.in my area we have one main road with well designed raised portions that do not affect the car at all as long as you remain below the limit, yet in many other areas we have the small individual squares of raised tarmac. more often than not in areas with lots of road side parking meaning they have to be negotiated off centre whilst barely moving.
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