Fly Tipping on Private Land

Fly Tipping on Private Land

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Martin_M

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2,071 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Greendubber said:
Is your estate managed by a company that you all pay for? If so I'd imagine the collection costs will be shared out between you all when your next bill comes out.might be worth a call if you do have a management company informing them if who put the turf there and that she needs to pay.

You never know though the lady jn question might have arranged to have it done herself.
I doubt that but I live in hope. The grounds were being maintained by the company employed by the developers at the same time which made me think they were responsible for removing it.

We don't pay anything yet - many more houses to be built so until the developers leave, we don't have a financial commitment.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Martin_M said:
I doubt that but I live in hope. The grounds were being maintained by the company employed by the developers at the same time which made me think they were responsible for removing it.

We don't pay anything yet - many more houses to be built so until the developers leave, we don't have a financial commitment.
Let's hope you don't have to. We have CP Bigwoods stealing money off us twice a year and they are absolutely useless. Im just glad we are in our house compared to the apartments on the estate as they pay a fortune to them.

Martin_M

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228 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Ultimately, all residents will have to pay in the long run. Residents in my parents' estate pay an absolute fortune per year. For some reason, one resident has refused to pay for the last three years and the last I heard, the resident's association is taking the home owner to court.

Personally, I'll happily pay if I see a breakdown of the costs and they are justified. If it's extreme then I could be militant about it if I truly believe the costs are excessive. That said, my wife tells me we signed something relating to this when we bought the house. What rights do home owners have in this regard I wonder?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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Nuclear Biscuit said:
Clivew said:
We had over 100 tyres dumped on our farm. Council and police were hopeless and the Council dump wouldn't take them even if we took them there. Eventually we had to pay £2 +VAT per tyre to have them collected and disposed of.

Utter bds rage
Did you ask to see a copy of their 'environmental waste certificate'? Or did they provide you with anything?

https://www.gov.uk/waste-carrier-or-broker-registr...
https://www.gov.uk/access-the-public-register-for-...
Or will a 'cheap contractor' just dump it on another farmers land ??

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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What crime has been committed by fly tipping on private land?

Criminal Damage? - I'm not sure

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Martin_M said:
Ultimately, all residents will have to pay in the long run. Residents in my parents' estate pay an absolute fortune per year. For some reason, one resident has refused to pay for the last three years and the last I heard, the resident's association is taking the home owner to court.

Personally, I'll happily pay if I see a breakdown of the costs and they are justified. If it's extreme then I could be militant about it if I truly believe the costs are excessive. That said, my wife tells me we signed something relating to this when we bought the house. What rights do home owners have in this regard I wonder?
We get a breakbreakdown every year and every year I want to offer to cut my share of the little green that's in the middle of the estate.....much to the annoyance of my O/H.

We had to sign something when we got our place saying we agree to pay as its on the deeds. We also have to pay the wkers an excessive admin fee when we remortgage as the lender requires a certificate from them.

I bloody hate them!

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

228 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Greendubber said:
We get a breakbreakdown every year and every year I want to offer to cut my share of the little green that's in the middle of the estate.....much to the annoyance of my O/H.

We had to sign something when we got our place saying we agree to pay as its on the deeds. We also have to pay the wkers an excessive admin fee when we remortgage as the lender requires a certificate from them.

I bloody hate them!
Technically, could they charge whatever they like? Once the developers leave, do you know who actually co-ordinates it? There isn't a residents' association as far as I know.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Martin_M said:
Technically, could they charge whatever they like? Once the developers leave, do you know who actually co-ordinates it? There isn't a residents' association as far as I know.
Yep, our estate is 5 years old so we've been under CP Bigwoods for a while now.

We do get s breakdown and predicted spend for the following year when they can be arsed to do it.

Martin_M

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2,071 posts

228 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Greendubber said:
Martin_M said:
Technically, could they charge whatever they like? Once the developers leave, do you know who actually co-ordinates it? There isn't a residents' association as far as I know.
Yep, our estate is 5 years old so we've been under CP Bigwoods for a while now.

We do get s breakdown and predicted spend for the following year when they can be arsed to do it.
Any ideas as to the worst case scenario if you didn't pay and it went to court? Before anyone starts, obviously it goes without saying that my default position would be to pay to ensure the upkeep of where I live...but if the company really did take the proverbial with their charges?

gothatway

5,783 posts

171 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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PAULJ5555 said:
What crime has been committed by fly tipping on private land?

Criminal Damage? - I'm not sure
Environmental Protection Act 1990 (illegal for anyone to deposit waste on any land without a licence)
Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005 (up to £50,000 fine, 5 years behind bars)
Not sure about laws of trespass (depriving someone of the use of their land)

... and it's a crime against common decency, for what that's worth.