speeding at 113 mph
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What is the offence date?
When were the written charge and postal requisition issued? (I.e. the date on which both you and the court were served)
Where a prosecutor issues a written charge and requisition for an offence then proceedings in relation to that offence are instituted when the written charge and requisition are issued; section 15(2)(ba) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.
Unless legislation permits otherwise then summary only proceedings must be instituted within 6 months of the offence date.
When were the written charge and postal requisition issued? (I.e. the date on which both you and the court were served)
Where a prosecutor issues a written charge and requisition for an offence then proceedings in relation to that offence are instituted when the written charge and requisition are issued; section 15(2)(ba) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.
Unless legislation permits otherwise then summary only proceedings must be instituted within 6 months of the offence date.
agtlaw said:
What is the offence date?
When were the written charge and postal requisition issued? (I.e. the date on which both you and the court were served)
Where a prosecutor issues a written charge and requisition for an offence then proceedings in relation to that offence are instituted when the written charge and requisition are issued; section 15(2)(ba) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.
Unless legislation permits otherwise then summary only proceedings must be instituted within 6 months of the offence date.
The OP says Nov 14.When were the written charge and postal requisition issued? (I.e. the date on which both you and the court were served)
Where a prosecutor issues a written charge and requisition for an offence then proceedings in relation to that offence are instituted when the written charge and requisition are issued; section 15(2)(ba) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.
Unless legislation permits otherwise then summary only proceedings must be instituted within 6 months of the offence date.
Hi
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Yes, i had 6 points at the time, 3 have come off now so i have 9. I need to be right onnit.
croixdawg said:
Hi
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
croixdawg said:
Yes, i had 6 points at the time, 3 have come off now so i have 9. I need to be right onnit.
I'm surprised. You had six at the time of the offence, and given six for the offence. Did well to escape a ban.croixdawg said:
Hi
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
You say that you are happy with the outcome but would it not have been better to take what would probably be a one month ban now,take some holiday from work,work from home or pay someone to drive you etc and get it out of the way now.
I dont know when your first 3 points come off your licence but now you will be driving around with 9 points driving like an old granny sh
ing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.
I dont know when your first 3 points come off your licence but now you will be driving around with 9 points driving like an old granny sh
ing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.benny 61 said:
If you had taken a ban, what insurance implications would that have?
You don't "take a ban". The court decides your punishment and you either accept it, or appeal it. You don't get to choose your own punishment. Nobody can tell him what impact it would have on his insurance, other than it would go up. It will also go up due to getting another 6 points. The increase will be specific to the OP, nobody can answer that question, other than the OP himself.
btcc123 said:
I dont know when your first 3 points come off your licence but now you will be driving around with 9 points driving like an old granny shing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.
I don't know why people are so worried about getting another three points when on 9. You'd have to be a real idiot to drive in a manner that draws attention to yourself when on 9 points, but at the same time you don't have to drive like a granny. I'd think that drivers on PH are likely to have an above-average level of awareness (of cops, cameras, road conditions, weather conditions, kids playing, idiots on mobile phones, errant pedestrians, etc. etc.) and it should be therefore fairly easy to avoid getting more points.ing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.I drive and ride in a densely populated region of the south east of England, and I'm not one for pootling about. I make as much progress as possible, overtaking when safe even if not strictly necessary. I don't hang about, I scope roundabouts and junctions before I arrive at them in an effort not to have to slow down excessively. I've seen this described as "looking to go but preparing to stop". I try to anticipate other road users' behaviour, often snicking into gaps that I've predicted will appear. I don't drive like a total angel, but I'm a firm believer that awareness and anticipation can be your best friends when behind the wheel. I respect 20 and 30 limits religiously but will bend the others when I feel it is safe to do so and when I'm as sure as I can be that I won't be caught. I don't take the mickey when it comes to speed, so that if I am caught, the consequences won't be terrible. It's been more than 20 years since I last received any points, so I can honestly say that as long as you don't drive like an idiot, you don't need to drive like a granny to avoid getting points. Just be aware of what's around you.
benny 61 said:
If you had taken a ban, what insurance implications would that have?
Although as LoonR1 says you cannot choose a ban but if he had been given one then compared to 6 more points and a total of 9 on his licence I dont think the insurance implications would be that much different.However as the OP was given the points any further speeding or any other offence with points and a totting up ban then the insurance implications for a 6 month ban would be in my opinion severe compared to a 1 month ban.
Sushifiend said:
btcc123 said:
I dont know when your first 3 points come off your licence but now you will be driving around with 9 points driving like an old granny shing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.
I don't know why people are so worried about getting another three points when on 9. You'd have to be a real idiot to drive in a manner that draws attention to yourself when on 9 points, but at the same time you don't have to drive like a granny. I'd think that drivers on PH are likely to have an above-average level of awareness (of cops, cameras, road conditions, weather conditions, kids playing, idiots on mobile phones, errant pedestrians, etc. etc.) and it should be therefore fairly easy to avoid getting more points.ing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.I drive and ride in a densely populated region of the south east of England, and I'm not one for pootling about. I make as much progress as possible, overtaking when safe even if not strictly necessary. I don't hang about, I scope roundabouts and junctions before I arrive at them in an effort not to have to slow down excessively. I've seen this described as "looking to go but preparing to stop". I try to anticipate other road users' behaviour, often snicking into gaps that I've predicted will appear. I don't drive like a total angel, but I'm a firm believer that awareness and anticipation can be your best friends when behind the wheel. I respect 20 and 30 limits religiously but will bend the others when I feel it is safe to do so and when I'm as sure as I can be that I won't be caught. I don't take the mickey when it comes to speed, so that if I am caught, the consequences won't be terrible. It's been more than 20 years since I last received any points, so I can honestly say that as long as you don't drive like an idiot, you don't need to drive like a granny to avoid getting points. Just be aware of what's around you.
But then again if everyone was perfect as you no one would ever get caught for any motoring offence.I am sure that you are just like other people who have a high opinion of themselves and are not that in reality.
btcc123 said:
Sushifiend said:
btcc123 said:
I dont know when your first 3 points come off your licence but now you will be driving around with 9 points driving like an old granny shing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.
I don't know why people are so worried about getting another three points when on 9. You'd have to be a real idiot to drive in a manner that draws attention to yourself when on 9 points, but at the same time you don't have to drive like a granny. I'd think that drivers on PH are likely to have an above-average level of awareness (of cops, cameras, road conditions, weather conditions, kids playing, idiots on mobile phones, errant pedestrians, etc. etc.) and it should be therefore fairly easy to avoid getting more points.ing yourself that you'll get done for speeding,have 12 points and get a 6 month ban and a nice big fine.With your record with speeding that will come sooner rather than later.I drive and ride in a densely populated region of the south east of England, and I'm not one for pootling about. I make as much progress as possible, overtaking when safe even if not strictly necessary. I don't hang about, I scope roundabouts and junctions before I arrive at them in an effort not to have to slow down excessively. I've seen this described as "looking to go but preparing to stop". I try to anticipate other road users' behaviour, often snicking into gaps that I've predicted will appear. I don't drive like a total angel, but I'm a firm believer that awareness and anticipation can be your best friends when behind the wheel. I respect 20 and 30 limits religiously but will bend the others when I feel it is safe to do so and when I'm as sure as I can be that I won't be caught. I don't take the mickey when it comes to speed, so that if I am caught, the consequences won't be terrible. It's been more than 20 years since I last received any points, so I can honestly say that as long as you don't drive like an idiot, you don't need to drive like a granny to avoid getting points. Just be aware of what's around you.
But then again if everyone was perfect as you no one would ever get caught for any motoring offence.I am sure that you are just like other people who have a high opinion of themselves and are not that in reality.
croixdawg said:
Hi
Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. .
So, well after this had become statute barred you received notice to attend court? And you stood on a stand and held a bible in your right hand?Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. .
And after being given the 'benefit of the doubt' you still received a penalty?
Durzel said:
It sounds as if the OP dodged a totting ban through some kind of administrative cockup anyway?
He had 6 points at the time of the offence, the fact 3 expired between offence and conviction is (or would ordinarily be) moot.
I thought the OP made it clear the mags. decided not to impose the 6 months totting up ban.He had 6 points at the time of the offence, the fact 3 expired between offence and conviction is (or would ordinarily be) moot.
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