If convictions are spent do they show up on a CRB check

If convictions are spent do they show up on a CRB check

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jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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So cautions for theft or criminal damage would not come out even on enhanced dbs? Reason I ask is someone I know wants to be a school governor but wont as they have some cautions in there 18-21 years and doesnt want these disclosed to the school.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
So cautions for theft or criminal damage would not come out even on enhanced dbs? Reason I ask is someone I know wants to be a school governor but wont as they have some cautions in there 18-21 years and doesnt want these disclosed to the school.
Well then they have opted out of a position of trust on the basis of their current deceptive behaviour.

This is the greater issue rather than aged cautions, but unfortunately no matter how many times it's mentioned and discussed there are some people who are willfully blind to this point.

sim72

4,945 posts

133 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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I would be surprised if a school even required a DBS for a governor (or at least nothing more than a basic) unless they are partaking in regulated activity (regular & unsupervised contact with children).

I would expect a basic DBS for governors to be looking for things like fraud rather than anything to do with protection of children.

MrTrilby

935 posts

281 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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sim72 said:
I would be surprised if a school even required a DBS for a governor (or at least nothing more than a basic) unless they are partaking in regulated activity (regular & unsupervised contact with children).

I would expect a basic DBS for governors to be looking for things like fraud rather than anything to do with protection of children.
Our school requires a DBS check for governors. I forget whether it is the standard or enhanced check. Given we shouldn't have unsupervised contact with children, I presume it's a fraud/position of responsibility thing.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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mph1977 said:
Well then they have opted out of a position of trust on the basis of their current deceptive behaviour.

This is the greater issue rather than aged cautions, but unfortunately no matter how many times it's mentioned and discussed there are some people who are willfully blind to this point.
He was 18 at the time not in mid 30's and is an accountant wouldnt have a problem trusting him just some silly petty stuff from when he was a lad. He doesnt want the school to see this as his kids go there. Not deceptive no one wants there teenage dirty laundry aired at their kids school.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
mph1977 said:
Well then they have opted out of a position of trust on the basis of their current deceptive behaviour.

This is the greater issue rather than aged cautions, but unfortunately no matter how many times it's mentioned and discussed there are some people who are willfully blind to this point.
He was 18 at the time not in mid 30's and is an accountant wouldnt have a problem trusting him just some silly petty stuff from when he was a lad. He doesnt want the school to see this as his kids go there. Not deceptive no one wants there teenage dirty laundry aired at their kids school.
do you actually understand how disclosures work ? or even the basics of confidentiality with regard to HR informations , as your answer suggests not ...

smileymikey

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1,445 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
mph1977 said:
Well then they have opted out of a position of trust on the basis of their current deceptive behaviour.

This is the greater issue rather than aged cautions, but unfortunately no matter how many times it's mentioned and discussed there are some people who are willfully blind to this point.
He was 18 at the time not in mid 30's and is an accountant wouldnt have a problem trusting him just some silly petty stuff from when he was a lad. He doesnt want the school to see this as his kids go there. Not deceptive no one wants there teenage dirty laundry aired at their kids school.
I can understand this totally. I avoided becoming involved at my daughters village school for this reason, the staff at the school were our friends and neighbours and it would have been naive to expect my past to have remained private.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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mph1977 said:
do you actually understand how disclosures work ? or even the basics of confidentiality with regard to HR informations , as your answer suggests not ...
discloses past conduct so that people can assess suitablity to certain position with trust or access to system data of individuals?

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
mph1977 said:
do you actually understand how disclosures work ? or even the basics of confidentiality with regard to HR informations , as your answer suggests not ...
discloses past conduct so that people can assess suitablity to certain position with trust or access to system data of individuals?
what makes you think anyone other than the head and chair of governors in the school governor case is likely to be aware of the content of the disclosure ?