Return of Deposit from Private Buyer

Return of Deposit from Private Buyer

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fido

16,797 posts

255 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Al U said:
Will he go through small claims over £100?
Conversely, will the trader want to spend a day in court and lose?
I would threaten to do so + Trading Standards - then do it ..

Al U

2,312 posts

131 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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If you said to me you were going to get trading standards involved if I had your £100 deposit that I wouldn't give back because you pulled out of a private sale I would laugh in your face. It's a private car sale, why would they give a fk?

Regarding the court thing, does the OP have any proof the deposit was taken and how much was left to pay? In any case people that would go to court over £100 simply do not value their time.

The moral of the story is don't put a deposit on a car unless you are certain you want it given the circumstances. Admittedly none of the cars I have bought have been particularly expensive, but much more considerable sums than are being discussed here. I have never left a deposit. I think that when I say I will come back later or on a certain day to get the car the seller has realised I'm serious and said no problem I'll see you then. All my own petsonal experience of course.

Edited by Al U on Friday 24th July 19:47

tony wright

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1,004 posts

250 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Al U said:
If you said to me you were going to get trading standards involved if I had your £100 deposit that I wouldn't give back because you pulled out of a private sale I would laugh in your face. It's a private car sale, why would they give a fk?

Regarding the court thing, does the OP have any proof the deposit was taken and how much was left to pay? In any case people that would go to court over £100 simply do not value their time.

The moral of the story is don't put a deposit on a car unless you are certain you want it given the circumstances. Admittedly none of the cars I have bought have been particularly expensive, but much more considerable sums than are being discussed here. I have never left a deposit. I think that when I say I will come back later or on a certain day to get the car the seller has realised I'm serious and said no problem I'll see you then. All my own petsonal experience of course.

Edited by Al U on Friday 24th July 19:47
He has a receipt for the deposit and was told that the V5 had been sent off due to the seller recently moving house. He mistakenly understood on the day, that the rest of paperwork was still at old house. Not sure about your last two sentences. Why would a seller give two hoots if he thought you were serious or not. No deposit means car sold to the next person who comes along, you have obviously been lucky with your used car buying in the past if that's the case.

Evolved

3,566 posts

187 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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For the money buy on condition, a SH is a bonus really.

Stoofa

958 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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It kinda works this way on PH:

If you're the seller and you've taken a deposit and the buyer drops out you tell him to **** off, he's not getting a single penny. Jog on.
If you're the buyer and you've left a deposit and then you change your mind for any reason, by law you're entitled to the deposit back and you should sue.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Stoofa said:
It kinda works this way on PH:

If you're the seller and you've taken a deposit and the buyer drops out you tell him to **** off, he's not getting a single penny. Jog on.
If you're the buyer and you've left a deposit and then you change your mind for any reason, by law you're entitled to the deposit back and you should sue.
And some chump invariably pipes up with this same little ditty...

Without considering that whether a buyer is entitled to their deposit back might actually relate to the facts of the situation.

tony wright

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1,004 posts

250 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Seller provided V5 reference number so S in L checked with the DVLA and it seems as though mileage is correct according to the DVLA MOT history. He has also told me that he did a vehicle text check (obviously all back to front and a bit late now) on car and it turns out it's a multiple cat C, not sure what the multiple means? So he's now worried about that rolleyes, I've told him to forget the deposit and walk if he's not happy as present owner may not have known it was a cat C. After all this seller still hasn't found the full service history he advertised...

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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tony wright said:
Seller provided V5 reference number so S in L checked with the DVLA and it seems as though mileage is correct according to the DVLA MOT history. He has also told me that he did a vehicle text check (obviously all back to front and a bit late now) on car and it turns out it's a multiple cat C, not sure what the multiple means? So he's now worried about that rolleyes, I've told him to forget the deposit and walk if he's not happy as present owner may not have known it was a cat C. After all this seller still hasn't found the full service history he advertised...
Of course it's a Cat C - how else would he be selling a 2007 low mileage Clio for £900? Not surprised in the slightest and was going to comment "get him to HPI check it because that's too cheap for a straight car"

Lucky escape but he needs to wise up a bit to avoid getting taken for a mug over and over again

"Multiple" means it's been written off, bodged and written off again

Edited by Toaster Pilot on Monday 27th July 00:04

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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From another PH post:



This is what happens to the V5 of a Cat C car. There's no way the seller didn't know. It's certainly grounds for getting the deposit back since it's substantially not as described, but you'll struggle.

BertBert

19,043 posts

211 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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davepoth said:
From another PH post:
This is what happens to the V5 of a Cat C car. There's no way the seller didn't know. It's certainly grounds for getting the deposit back since it's substantially not as described, but you'll struggle.
Which part of the seller's description (from what we have been told) is substantially wrong?

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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BertBert said:
davepoth said:
From another PH post:
This is what happens to the V5 of a Cat C car. There's no way the seller didn't know. It's certainly grounds for getting the deposit back since it's substantially not as described, but you'll struggle.
Which part of the seller's description (from what we have been told) is substantially wrong?
Full service history.

BertBert

19,043 posts

211 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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JustinP1 said:
BertBert said:
davepoth said:
From another PH post:
This is what happens to the V5 of a Cat C car. There's no way the seller didn't know. It's certainly grounds for getting the deposit back since it's substantially not as described, but you'll struggle.
Which part of the seller's description (from what we have been told) is substantially wrong?
Full service history.
Indeed, I was specifically referring to the cat c'ness and which part of the description davepoth was referring to regarding it.

Agreed re the service history though.
Bert

tony wright

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1,004 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Son in Law sent a message to seller on exactly what's been said so far i.e. No service history (apparently has a large folder but DVLA have kept it) car written off at least twice when advertised as immaculate etc. Has mentioned miss selling and return of deposit. Turns out the seller is a mechanic and replied, saying he knew nothing of the cat C, so SIL asked for the information from section 3 of the V5 and seller is now ignoring all correspondence. SIL has now resigned himself to the loss of his £100 but pretty pissed off about the whole affair (even though he is partly to blame).

Question now is seller has recently started his own business (valeting), advertising on the same site he used to try and sell the Clio, would it be wrong or illegal for SIL to vent some his anger via comments on sellers new advertised site?