Caught speeding 85 in a 30
Discussion
mgtony said:
Vipers said:
turbobloke said:
Heading west out of London, not far from some "secure accommodation".
A40, Western Ave? Maybe
turbobloke said:
mgtony said:
Vipers said:
turbobloke said:
Heading west out of London, not far from some "secure accommodation".
A40, Western Ave? Maybeturbobloke said:
Whatever it was, or is, I'm reasonably certain it was 30 at the time of the pic. A long time ago I seem to remember 50. As ever, memory is fallible.
Wasn't disagreeing with you, was 30mph for a time. You can still see it faintly painted on the road when you drive through there.mgtony said:
Vipers said:
turbobloke said:
Heading west out of London, not far from some "secure accommodation".
A40, Western Ave? MaybeHeading Westbound its possible to have the road to yourself even at busy times - its Eastbound over the flyover which is normally queuing as per the pic. This thread immediately made me think of this very section of road as barely a few months ago I took off quickly from the lights at the Western end of Marylebone road, onto the flyover, with no other traffic in sight in my direction and no other junctions until the on-ramp just after Paddington. I don't recall the exact speed I hit momentarily but it was into hung, drawn and quartered territory.
theboss said:
The Westway was the A40(M) when built but reclassified in 2000 - does anyone know if it was ever NSL? It is indeed 40 now.
Having driven along that route occasionally since the early 80s and regularly from 1991, if there was an NSL period then I can't remember it. There was a time in the mid-90s iirc when you could be held up in a crawl out of town but previous comments about the eastbound carriageway being snarled up more often are spot on.
There's a few 30s where it is safe, if not legal, to do a lot more. Here's one:
http://goo.gl/maps/Jxzso
http://goo.gl/maps/Jxzso
JumboBeef said:
There's a few 30s where it is safe, if not legal, to do a lot more. Here's one:
http://goo.gl/maps/Jxzso
Another good shout. I drove out of Bristol centre a few weeks ago via M32 and thought this was absolutely farcical.http://goo.gl/maps/Jxzso
Fort Jefferson said:
This thread is the reason I very rarely go on PH these days. Someone speeds, and all the holier than f
king thou merchants turn up. Get back to your knitting or fk off to Mumsnet.
What are you on about? Slating a guy for driving at 85mph in a 30mph doesn't make folk 'holier than though' - it just makes you look like a dick for having a pop at them.king thou merchants turn up. Get back to your knitting or fk off to Mumsnet.Fort Jefferson said:
This thread is the reason I very rarely go on PH these days. Someone speeds, and all the holier than fking thou merchants turn up. Get back to your knitting or fk off to Mumsnet.
It doesn't matter how much of a diving god you or the OP are, you do not have the skills, reactions or ability to safely do 80+ mph in a 30 limit on a public road with all the hazards that can mean. Any 30 limit. If you believe otherwise your ego needs deflating fast.king thou merchants turn up. Get back to your knitting or fk off to Mumsnet.Most of the regulars on here probably speed at times, no doubt sometimes by a fairly large margin. I know I do. But being a car enthusiast includes not over-estimating your own abilities to that extent.
Personally, I agree with the suggestions that the OP is on summer holiday at the moment but there are people out there who'll act that stupidly on the road. Those people are a very big part of why we all get stuck with too-low limits in the first place. That alone makes them valid targets.
caziques said:
OP should contact his local court to see if the information has been laid within six months of the date of the alleged offence.
If yes, he can prepare for the worst.
If no, buy a lottery ticket.
I'd also suggest the OP tries https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/drivi... to see if (s)he has been convicted in their absence (I'm thinking of a recent change of address, for example, or mail otherwise getting mislaid).If yes, he can prepare for the worst.
If no, buy a lottery ticket.
So he's caught at 85 in a 30 and admitted he was doing well over 100. Call me old school but I thought that if one wilfully broke the law (whatever it is) you kept your head down and your mouth shut because of the shame.
If I came across an dangerous idiot doing three or four times the limit (such as the aholes who come past my house in a village and leave the ground as they come over the railway bridge) who then brags (and I think he is bragging) about it on the Internet it seems to me that he completely lacks the mental ability to hold a driving licence - ever. The same as the prat the other week done for drifting his Nissan on blind bends while his prat mates filmed him and put it on YouTube - priceless! These people have the brain cells of a flea and should never be allowed behind the wheel. Clearly candidates for the Darwin award.
If I came across an dangerous idiot doing three or four times the limit (such as the a
holes who come past my house in a village and leave the ground as they come over the railway bridge) who then brags (and I think he is bragging) about it on the Internet it seems to me that he completely lacks the mental ability to hold a driving licence - ever. The same as the prat the other week done for drifting his Nissan on blind bends while his prat mates filmed him and put it on YouTube - priceless! These people have the brain cells of a flea and should never be allowed behind the wheel. Clearly candidates for the Darwin award.Variomatic said:
It doesn't matter how much of a diving god you or the OP are, you do not have the skills, reactions or ability to safely do 80+ mph in a 30 limit on a public road with all the hazards that can mean. Any 30 limit. If you believe otherwise your ego needs deflating fast.
Most of the regulars on here probably speed at times, no doubt sometimes by a fairly large margin. I know I do. But being a car enthusiast includes not over-estimating your own abilities to that extent.
Personally, I agree with the suggestions that the OP is on summer holiday at the moment but there are people out there who'll act that stupidly on the road. Those people are a very big part of why we all get stuck with too-low limits in the first place. That alone makes them valid targets.
We have already established that nowadays, just because a road is a 30 limit, doesn't mean there are parked cars, houses backing onto the road and kids kicking a football around. I'm doubting the OP was on a road like the one outside my house which Guy Martin would struggle to show an indicated 100, more like one of the 2 lane dual carriageways that have mysteriously been derated for reasons the world premier mathematicians would never be able to figure out. No body is saying it's legal, but plenty are saying it's not impossible or that dangerous. Time, place etc. 2am on a school night on one of those de-rated roads? Meh. Most of the regulars on here probably speed at times, no doubt sometimes by a fairly large margin. I know I do. But being a car enthusiast includes not over-estimating your own abilities to that extent.
Personally, I agree with the suggestions that the OP is on summer holiday at the moment but there are people out there who'll act that stupidly on the road. Those people are a very big part of why we all get stuck with too-low limits in the first place. That alone makes them valid targets.
Willy Nilly said:
We have already established that nowadays, just because a road is a 30 limit, doesn't mean there are parked cars, houses backing onto the road and kids kicking a football around. I'm doubting the OP was on a road like the one outside my house which Guy Martin would struggle to show an indicated 100, more like one of the 2 lane dual carriageways that have mysteriously been derated for reasons the world premier mathematicians would never be able to figure out. No body is saying it's legal, but plenty are saying it's not impossible or that dangerous. Time, place etc. 2am on a school night on one of those de-rated roads? Meh.
They don't de-rate them that much on a whim.Yes, there are plenty of stretches where a 30 could maybe be a 40, or possibly a 50. But not an 85!
The fact that you don't know / can't see why they did it doesn't mean there wasn't a reason. Sometimes it's a simple as local people not wanting to be kept awake all night by traffic flying past their windows at 85mph in the middle of a school night at 4am.
If anything, if you can't see why they did it, it means that you're not being observant or imaginative enough in considering the situation. You may not agree with their reason, but if you can't work out what that reason might be then you're not thinking hard enough.
Variomatic said:
They don't de-rate them that much on a whim.
Yes, there are plenty of stretches where a 30 could maybe be a 40, or possibly a 50. But not an 85!
The fact that you don't know / can't see why they did it doesn't mean there wasn't a reason. Sometimes it's a simple as local people not wanting to be kept awake all night by traffic flying past their windows at 85mph in the middle of a school night at 4am.
If anything, if you can't see why they did it, it means that you're not being observant or imaginative enough in considering the situation. You may not agree with their reason, but if you can't work out what that reason might be then you're not thinking hard enough.
They have been de-rating them on a whim when enough NIMBY's groan about the road they have moved ned to being a bit noisy. You know that when a road is a 30 limit and the traffic is flowing at 50 and going up hill at that that the speed limit is too low and the people that complained about it and reduced it are both idiots. Yes, there are plenty of stretches where a 30 could maybe be a 40, or possibly a 50. But not an 85!
The fact that you don't know / can't see why they did it doesn't mean there wasn't a reason. Sometimes it's a simple as local people not wanting to be kept awake all night by traffic flying past their windows at 85mph in the middle of a school night at 4am.
If anything, if you can't see why they did it, it means that you're not being observant or imaginative enough in considering the situation. You may not agree with their reason, but if you can't work out what that reason might be then you're not thinking hard enough.
Wow!
Quite apart from that being a far rarer occurrence than you might like to pretend, your complaint is rather based on the assumption that your "rights" as a motorist should trump everyone else's rights regardless. And you call them NIMBY's!
But, regardless of all that, the bottom line is that society has rules. One of those rules is that, if you want to drive, you're subject to limits on your speed which are set by others for reasons you may not agree with.
You're free to break those limits if you wish, but you have absolutely no grounds to say anything but "it's a fair cop, Guv" if you get caught doing so, especially by the margins being discussed here - it's not like you can "accidentally creep" from 30 to 85!
If you don't like that then you're free to take the bus
Quite apart from that being a far rarer occurrence than you might like to pretend, your complaint is rather based on the assumption that your "rights" as a motorist should trump everyone else's rights regardless. And you call them NIMBY's!
But, regardless of all that, the bottom line is that society has rules. One of those rules is that, if you want to drive, you're subject to limits on your speed which are set by others for reasons you may not agree with.
You're free to break those limits if you wish, but you have absolutely no grounds to say anything but "it's a fair cop, Guv" if you get caught doing so, especially by the margins being discussed here - it's not like you can "accidentally creep" from 30 to 85!
If you don't like that then you're free to take the bus
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