Reporting a Driver

[hopelwillis]

All that jazz said:

.. after the event.

I call BS.

So hold on, now you are thinking that I stopped, joined the road at the give way, and 2 seconds later, I was tangled up with him as he swapped form left to right.. all at the speed ofjust under 70mph. Yeah ok clearly "BS" I dont know about you but stopping my little 1.4 car, and then catching up to a van doing the speed limit isnt going to be instant.

Even if I had (at the give way) honked my horn and flicked him the V sign (which you are assuming I did), his actions of deciding to play with traffic LATER on down the road were dangerous and could have killed someone.

Edited by hopelwillis on Thursday 6th August 11:28

[All that jazz]

hopelwillis said:

So hold on, now you are thinking that I stopped, joined the road at the give way, and 2 seconds later, I was tangled up with him as he swapped form left to right.. all at the speed ofjust under 70mph. Yeah ok clearly "BS" I dont know about you but stopping my little 1.4 car, and trying to catch up to a van doing the speed limit isnt going to be instant.

Even if I had (at the give way) honked my horn and flicked him the V sign (which you are assuming I did), his actions of deciding to play with traffic LATER on down the road were dangerous and could have killed someone.

Poke a hornet's nest and you're likely to get stung.

Oh wait..

[hopelwillis]

All that jazz said:

Poke a hornet's nest and you're likely to get stung.

Oh wait..

Wow, just wow. You seriously condone his actions on the road, and you say I need to go to advanced driving courses.. Book yourself on one mate

[All that jazz]

hopelwillis said:

All that jazz said:

Poke a hornet's nest and you're likely to get stung.

Oh wait..

Wow, just wow. You seriously condone his actions on the road, and you say I need to go to advanced driving courses.. Book yourself on one mate

Never mind HIS actions. Focus on YOUR OWN. Once you've mastered that then your problems will go away. Is it really so hard for you to comprehend? Actually, don't answer that.

[Countdown]

All that jazz said:

Never mind HIS actions. Focus on YOUR OWN. Once you've mastered that then your problems will go away. Is it really so hard for you to comprehend? Actually, don't answer that.

The OP didn't FORCE the van driver to act like a muppet. That appears to have been entirely the van drivers choice.

[StottyEvo]

hopelwillis said:

Luckily we were the only people on the road otherwise he could have caused an accident.

From the actions described I find this a bit sensationalist. He moved to the right to stop you overtaking and tailgated you, its hardly wild & insane. Also bearing in mind he was laughing at you, him being apocalyptic with rage would be much much worse.

It probably would've have registered as a 3 on my scale and I'd have forgotten about it by the time I got to work...

[Osinjak]

Countdown said:

All that jazz said:

Never mind HIS actions. Focus on YOUR OWN. Once you've mastered that then your problems will go away. Is it really so hard for you to comprehend? Actually, don't answer that.

The OP didn't FORCE the van driver to act like a muppet. That appears to have been entirely the van drivers choice.

ATJ seems to be missing this point somewhat. I have absolutely no idea why anyone in their right mind would want to make a silly situation worse by acting inherently dangerously, Why? Why would you want to do that, what possible reason could you have for blocking someone and tailgating, just because someone was exasperated because you didn't let them in? Give me strength. Van driver could have been the bigger and smarter man and driven on ignoring any fkwittery but instead made it a whole lot worse. Yeah, smart move ATJ, you rock.

[BobSaunders]

Osinjak said:

Countdown said:

All that jazz said:

Never mind HIS actions. Focus on YOUR OWN. Once you've mastered that then your problems will go away. Is it really so hard for you to comprehend? Actually, don't answer that.

The OP didn't FORCE the van driver to act like a muppet. That appears to have been entirely the van drivers choice.

ATJ seems to be missing this point somewhat. I have absolutely no idea why anyone in their right mind would want to make a silly situation worse by acting inherently dangerously, Why? Why would you want to do that, what possible reason could you have for blocking someone and tailgating, just because someone was exasperated because you didn't let them in? Give me strength. Van driver could have been the bigger and smarter man and driven on ignoring any fkwittery but instead made it a whole lot worse. Yeah, smart move ATJ, you rock.

This.

So what if OP made a hand or arm gesture? Van driver could have kept going and given the beans back, but instead.. van driver decided escalate the situation by driving dangerously. In a branded van.

Organisations take their brand name seriously and in the vast majority of cases this is gross misconduct.

[All that jazz]

Osinjak said:

Countdown said:

All that jazz said:

Never mind HIS actions. Focus on YOUR OWN. Once you've mastered that then your problems will go away. Is it really so hard for you to comprehend? Actually, don't answer that.

The OP didn't FORCE the van driver to act like a muppet. That appears to have been entirely the van drivers choice.

ATJ seems to be missing this point somewhat.

No you are. You are focusing on a van driver that he happened across 10-15 mins down the road (by his own admission). You're seriously trying to tell me that the van driver will even remember his car and still be apoplectic with rage after TEN to FIFTEEN minutes? The OP even admitted that it took him that long to catch up as he "only" has a 1.4. It probably wasn't even the same van. The only point worthy of any mention in this thread is the OP can't drive for st and he has a broken car that he needs to get fixed as it's clearly unroadworthy if it can't catch up with a van in 15 minutes ffs.

[BobSaunders]

All that jazz said:

You're seriously trying to tell me that the van driver will even remember his car and still be apoplectic with rage after TEN to FIFTEEN minutes?

Go and stand in any small town local pub on a Friday and Saturday evening after 10pm and see if anyone remembers something that may or may not have happened sometime ago.. (this is coming from someone from a small town).

People are malicious and get their kicks from different things. A simple look at some of the malicious, sarcastic, and downright spiteful posts on here will tell you this.

[hopelwillis]

All that jazz said:

No you are. You are focusing on a van driver that he happened across 10-15 mins down the road (by his own admission). You're seriously trying to tell me that the van driver will even remember his car and still be apoplectic with rage after TEN to FIFTEEN minutes? The OP even admitted that it took him that long to catch up as he "only" has a 1.4. It probably wasn't even the same van. The only point worthy of any mention in this thread is the OP can't drive for st and he has a broken car that he needs to get fixed as it's clearly unroadworthy if it can't catch up with a van in 15 minutes ffs.

Really? Now apparetly my car is broken.. Get a grip. This has nothing to do with my car.
"It probably wasnt the same van" - so then that makes what he did even worse, as this would have made it a complete stranger playing with the traffic?

I wasnt trying to "catch up" with the van. Like I have already said, I had forgotten about it and cracked on with my lesiurely drive to work. I didnt time how long it took as I wasnt expecting to see the van again. But you continue to say its BS - wouldnt suprise me if you are someone who would act in the exact same way as the van driver.

[All that jazz]

=SIGH= OK, whatever. You continue to drive like an impatient knob then and keep posting threads on the internet wondering why other drivers are doing the same back. Makes no difference to my life.

[Redgate]

Sorry, just trying to understand here so let's pretend for a second that it is you ATJ who is driving the van and who sees someone stopped, trying to merge in, and who shares his displeasure at not being let in by 'raising their arm in a questioning manner'.

How would you react then? Blocking his attempts to overtake? Tailgating? Break-testing him? Or ?

[Osinjak]

Remarkable, absolutely remarkable. ATJ clearly cannot comprehend that the van bloke escalated a situation beyond everyday irritation to a fundamentally dangerous situation and still thinks it's justifiable. The bigger and smarter man would walk/drive away. ATJ clearly wouldn't. I really want to try and understand this, why do you think it's justifiable that van man should behave like that, why can't he just get away from him, leave the affronted individual to stew in his own juices?

[All that jazz]

Redgate said:

Sorry, just trying to understand here so let's pretend for a second that it is you ATJ who is driving the van and who sees someone stopped, trying to merge in, and who shares his displeasure at not being let in by 'raising their arm in a questioning manner'.

How would you react then? Blocking his attempts to overtake? Tailgating? Break-testing him? Or ?

Assuming I couldn't move over to accommodate and he started gesticulating at me I would think "knob" and then forget about it 5 seconds later and carry on with my life; likely the same as any normal person. However as I have stated MANY times now, I find it EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that any driver would still be apoplectic with rage from what is claimed to be a mere "raise of my arm" that happened "10-15 mins" earlier and start weaving all over the road, thus I would bet a considerable amount of money that the OP is talking st and it didn't happen anything like he said. In fact given his post count and it being the school holidays it probably didn't happen at all.

I'm done here as it's like arguing with retards. If you chaps want to continue arguing over what is more than likely a completely ficticious event, on you go, I'm out.

[Osinjak]

All that jazz said:

Assuming I couldn't move over to accommodate and he started gesticulating at me I would think "knob" and then forget about it 5 seconds later and carry on with my life; likely the same as any normal person. However as I have stated MANY times now, I find it EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that any driver would still be apoplectic with rage from what is claimed to be a mere "raise of my arm" that happened "10-15 mins" earlier and start weaving all over the road, thus I would bet a considerable amount of money that the OP is talking st and it didn't happen anything like he said. In fact given his post count and it being the school holidays it probably didn't happen at all.

I'm done here as it's like arguing with retards. If you chaps want to continue arguing over what is more than likely a completely ficticious event, on you go, I'm out.

Ah, bending the story to suit your own narrative - quality. As for the retards comment, that says more about you than any of your posts - playing the man and not the ball. Isn't that what van man was doing?

See you. Door, arse, etc.

[Nigel_O]

All that jazz said:

However as I have stated MANY times now, I find it EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that any driver would still be apoplectic with rage from what is claimed to be a mere "raise of my arm"

So please explain my experience of being blocked after sounding my horn at a van driver

Or am I a retard too?

You're really not doing yourself any favours, nor are you arguing your points well (if at all) - just having a rant to say that you don't believe the OP isn't adding anything to the discussion / argument.

Come back with some considered and semi-eloquent input and you might get a better response.

For what its worth, I occasionally find myself "throwing up a hand" in exasperation - for example, waiting to enter a roundabout - one car already going round and it turns off with no signals - just shows a lack of awareness of other road users

Also, FWIW, I rather doubt the OP would have "gestured" if the van driver was unable to move over to let the OP pull out - it was a show of exasperation at the van driver not being courteous enough to let the OP make better progress

[Redgate]

All that jazz said:

I'm done here as it's like arguing with retards.

I guess it says it all.

[Carrot]

Osinjak said:

It's funny, whenever I come across bellendery on the road that directly affects me I tend to simply want to get away from it as quickly as possible. I have no interest in interacting with anyone who's not road savvy (no dig at the OP here), I'd rather protect myself and remove myself from the hazard. Juvenile behaviour to make it worse by immersing yourself in it even further regardless of who's at fault. Still, some people's lives are clearly not interesting enough I suppose.

100% this

[Mandalore]

rambo19 said:

covboy said:

Was it ever explained to you why this was the case. It seems only sensible (and courteous) to me to move over if other traffic conditions allow.

Agree with that.

So do I.

You would really have to be some form of knob if, on an empty dual carriageway, you saw somebody wanting to join on the left and deliberately didn't pull right and them back in again to aid traffic flow.

But then - many people simply lack the mental threshold required to anticipate anything these days.