Reporting a Driver

[hopelwillis]

This morning I was waiting to join a dual carriageway, when a company van was approaching, obviously I know he is under no obligation to move over to the right hand lane to let me in, but seeing as he was the only other vehicle on the road, I did raise my arm in a questioning manner as to why he chose not to. I then joined the road after he had gone past and forgot all about it. I came to over take the van some time later where he decided that he would move into the right hand lane, blocking me from passing, there were no other cars on the road at this time so it was clear he had moved to the right hand lane to block me on purpose. I moved over to the left hand lane and sat back, he was probably waiting for me to try and do an illegal undertake, but as I’m not as much of an idiot as he clearly was, I left it. He then moved back over to the left hand lane again in front of me. I moved over to the right to overtake, your van driver then moved the van into the middle of the road swerving. I overtook him, looked over to see him laughing and continued on with my journey. The driver then decided that his actions hadn’t been funny enough and decided to tailgate me for the remainder of the journey before he turned off
Luckily we were the only people on the road otherwise he could have caused an accident.

I want to report him, but with no evidence is there much use?

[flemke]

"Company van"?

Most company directors would not be impressed if an employee were behaving that way on company time in a company-liveried vehicle.

[andburg]

if its a large company, enough for the guy not to be in charge then call and report him.

every company I havw worked for has taken these type of incident very seriously

[ArmyMedic2012]

Report the van to the company with Reg number and time of incident, i assume most companies have tracker devices ( i may be wrong) so they can tell exactly who was driving what, when.

[hopelwillis]

I managed to get his reg, and I have sent an email to the company. He must have forgotten he had the company’s name in very large writing all over his van… idiot.

[Thankyou4calling]

He will, if asked tell a completely different story or deny all knowledge.

Waste of time in my opinion.

[iandc]

So you "raised my arm in a questioning gesture" when the other driver is doing nothing wrong, he then acts in a stupid way to get his own back for the "gesture" and you now want to report him to his company. Alternatively you could just shrug your shoulders and get on with your life.

[Countdown]

Thankyou4calling said:

He will, if asked tell a completely different story or deny all knowledge.

Waste of time in my opinion.

Possibly. But his bad driving might not be a one-off. If other people report him as well it's going to be harder for him to deny.

Where I used to work the Head of Repairs took a very hard line on it. IIRC 3 reports of bad driving and it would be a disciplinary. They also had trackers on their vehicles to monitor driving.

[andburg]

Countdown said:

Possibly. But his bad driving might not be a one-off. If other people report him as well it's going to be harder for him to deny.

Where I used to work the Head of Repairs took a very hard line on it. IIRC 3 reports of bad driving and it would be a disciplinary. They also had trackers on their vehicles to monitor driving.

Exactly this, incidents are kept and they soon identify the drivers who get reported repeatedly to be dealt with properly.
My last company had telematics and speed limiters fitted to all liveried vehicles prior to this they were fitted to anyone who had an accident or received multiple complaints. They even had a driver trainer employed providing internal courses to the guys who needed it. I am aware people lost their jobs through stupid actions behind the wheel.

[jshell]

Advanced driving tells you not to move over for traffic joining and it's the joining vehicles responsibility to match speed to gaps. At least it was a few years ago when I got marked down in an assessment for moving over!

[All that jazz]

hopelwillis said:

I managed to get his reg, and I have sent an email to the company. He must have forgotten he had the company’s name in very large writing all over his van… idiot.

Or you could just learn how to drive instead of blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings.

[PAULJ5555]

iandc said:

So you "raised my arm in a questioning gesture" when the other driver is doing nothing wrong, he then acts in a stupid way to get his own back for the "gesture" and you now want to report him to his company. Alternatively you could just shrug your shoulders and get on with your life.

I think the van man took it a bit too far here but why raise an arm to him? you should adjust your speed to join the road.

Edited by PAULJ5555 on Wednesday 5th August 12:34

[Tomiam]

No other vehicles on the road apart from that van and you. You couldn't adjust the speed of your vehicle so that you joined without him having to move over? It seems from your description that you expected him to move even though there is apparently plenty of space for you to join without him needing to.
What then happened afterwards is stupid and he should have been reported, but the first part of your post.. I dont think you in the right.

[hopelwillis]

All that jazz said:

Or you could just learn how to drive instead of blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings.

Find it hard to see how my ability to drive has anything to do with his behaviour 10-15 minutes down the road.

I stopped, and waited, no other traffic on the road bar me and him. My gesture was not an angry one, nor was I forcing myself onto the dual carriage way. I mearly wondered why he didnt. More a shrug of the shoulders.

I joined the road after him and then forgot about it. What he chose to do later on is completely him.

Whether you are taught to move over or not, I'm sure most of us will, if safe to do so, move over.

Edited by hopelwillis on Wednesday 5th August 12:56

Edited by hopelwillis on Wednesday 5th August 12:59

[heebeegeetee]

hopelwillis said:

This morning I was waiting to join a dual carriageway, when a company van was approaching, obviously I know he is under no obligation to move over to the right hand lane to let me in, but seeing as he was the only other vehicle on the road, I did raise my arm in a questioning manner as to why he chose not to. I then joined the road after he had gone past and forgot all about it. I came to over take the van some time later where he decided that he would move into the right hand lane, blocking me from passing, there were no other cars on the road at this time so it was clear he had moved to the right hand lane to block me on purpose. I moved over to the left hand lane and sat back, he was probably waiting for me to try and do an illegal undertake, but as I’m not as much of an idiot as he clearly was, I left it. He then moved back over to the left hand lane again in front of me. I moved over to the right to overtake, your van driver then moved the van into the middle of the road swerving. I overtook him, looked over to see him laughing and continued on with my journey. The driver then decided that his actions hadn’t been funny enough and decided to tailgate me for the remainder of the journey before he turned off
Luckily we were the only people on the road otherwise he could have caused an accident.

I want to report him, but with no evidence is there much use?

If he was the only other vehicle on the road, what on earth was wrong with the tarmac in front of him or behind him. Why did you only want the tarmac he was already occupying?

If he was the only other vehicle on the road, how did you manage to get tangled up with him? I'm sorry, but you sound like you deserve each other equally. Best of luck with reporting, be careful of what you admit to though in the meantime.

[anonymous-user]

heebeegeetee said:

If he was the only other vehicle on the road, what on earth was wrong with the tarmac in front of him or behind him. Why did you only want the tarmac he was already occupying?

If he was the only other vehicle on the road, how did you manage to get tangled up with him? I'm sorry, but you sound like you deserve each other equally. Best of luck with reporting, be careful of what you admit to though in the meantime.

^^^ I concur

[All that jazz]

hopelwillis said:

All that jazz said:

Or you could just learn how to drive instead of blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings.

Find it hard to see how my ability to drive has anything to do with his behaviour 10-15 minutes down the road.

I stopped, and waited, no other traffic on the road bar me and him. My gesture was not an angry one, nor was I forcing myself onto the dual carriage way. I mearly wondered why he didnt. More a shrug of the shoulders.

I joined the road after him and then forgot about it.

Whether you are taught to move over or not, I'm sure most of us will, if safe to do so, move over.

Sounds like you definitely need to learn how to drive. If you have to "stop and wait" on a slip road then you lack observation and anticipation skills. You should adjust your speed to merge with the traffic on the main carriageway without causing them to alter their course or speed. Seems quite clear from your post that you did none of the above and were in your own little world expecting everyone else to accommodate your crappy driving and it didn't end well for you. I also doubt you're telling us the whole story as the van driver would not made those blocking manoeuvres without provocation imho.

[hopelwillis]

All that jazz said:

Sounds like you definitely need to learn how to drive. If you have to "stop and wait" on a slip road then you lack observation and anticipation skills. You should adjust your speed to merge with the traffic on the main carriageway without causing them to alter their course or speed. Seems quite clear from your post that you did none of the above and were in your own little world expecting everyone else to accommodate your crappy driving and it didn't end well for you. I also doubt you're telling us the whole story as the van driver would not made those blocking manoeuvres without provocation imho.

The joining part in question is not a slip road, its a give way. Which I did.

[All that jazz]

hopelwillis said:

All that jazz said:

Sounds like you definitely need to learn how to drive. If you have to "stop and wait" on a slip road then you lack observation and anticipation skills. You should adjust your speed to merge with the traffic on the main carriageway without causing them to alter their course or speed. Seems quite clear from your post that you did none of the above and were in your own little world expecting everyone else to accommodate your crappy driving and it didn't end well for you. I also doubt you're telling us the whole story as the van driver would not made those blocking manoeuvres without provocation imho.

The joining part in question is not a slip road, its a give way. Which I did.

In that case no-one to blame but yourself for your own impatience. Throwing your arms up the air and raging because someone's made you stop at a give way when the other party has priority suggests to me that you have anger management issues.

Have a look through your local yellow pages for driving schools and see if you can book some refresher lessons.

[Retroman]

If there were no other vehicles on the road, then surely it must have been super easy to either slow down and go behind the van, or speed up and go in front. Your frustration at the van not moving suggests you either hovered beside them for some time before being able to pull out, or you planned to pull in front of it but due to the faster moving speed of the van this wasn't possible.

I can't think of any other way you'd be frustrated at a van not "letting you out" on an empty road.

The van driver was a bell end by the sounds of things as well, but as others have suggested i'd move on. Reporting him isn't likely to benefit you in any way and will only take up your time.