Serious advice please. Found shrapnel in our baby's nappies.

Serious advice please. Found shrapnel in our baby's nappies.

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M6L11

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1,222 posts

127 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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daddy cool said:
Show us the letter then (blank out the names & addresses, natch)
That was to my wife on Facebook, she even posted it on the Pampers page. I'll wade through and screenshot it if my wife hasn't already.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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M6L11 said:
We've been offered a tour of their factory in Manchester (erm, no thanks?!) and a donation to a charity. They have failed to release any statements or acknowledge the problem publicly to confirm the truth of our allegations. Not that surprising for a company looking to minimise bad PR from the outset, but we have in the interim received everything from hate mail (including a doctor who accused us of hurting our baby intentionally for 'compo') to death threats and a threat to blow up our house with us all inside. All of the nastiness on the stated grounds that we are clearly lying compo/sun-seeking chancers and child abusers. The general public are such lovely people.
That is shocking, but then going on some of the responses in this thread, perhaps not.

Please keep us updated with the doctor-thing. What the fk were they thinking?! rofl

G-Rich

209 posts

215 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Can't believe the state of the British public - the whole compo culture thing has gotten way out of hand if people are now just assuming that parents warning other parents about dangerous things is an attempt to extract some cash somewhere down the line.

I think you've handled this all with a degree of decorum that a lot of people could learn from.


mcdjl

5,447 posts

196 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I'd be interested to see the nappy factory on your behalf (geeky engineer alert...)

Sheepshanks

32,795 posts

120 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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G-Rich said:
Can't believe the state of the British public - the whole compo culture thing has gotten way out of hand if people are now just assuming that parents warning other parents about dangerous things is an attempt to extract some cash somewhere down the line.
My view would be that a lot of the reaction is a response to the almost hysterical tone set by the OP's OP - and that tone was carried through elsewhere.

Having said that, Pampers response, bearing in mind they've identified the problem, is somewhat surprising. That's the kind of response you'd expect if they claimed to have found nothing wrong.

No Bend

591 posts

123 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I'd be offering Pampers the contents of a years worth of nappies in response to their generous offer. Delivered weekly.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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That's poor.

G-Rich

209 posts

215 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
G-Rich said:
Can't believe the state of the British public - the whole compo culture thing has gotten way out of hand if people are now just assuming that parents warning other parents about dangerous things is an attempt to extract some cash somewhere down the line.
My view would be that a lot of the reaction is a response to the almost hysterical tone set by the OP's OP - and that tone was carried through elsewhere.

Having said that, Pampers response, bearing in mind they've identified the problem, is somewhat surprising. That's the kind of response you'd expect if they claimed to have found nothing wrong.
I was more thinking of the death threats and other stupidity the OP has been on the receiving end of. Regardless as to whether the OP was running around stark bk naked screaming it in Leicester Sq, I don't think anyone is deserving of that. I'm sure he and his partner would far rather none of this had happened!

speedchick

5,180 posts

223 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I did mean to mention earlier and it's just prompted me reading what you have said, from what I have seen on facebook, (a couple of days after you first came here), yours is not the only batch, someone else had posted pictures of nappies they had with shards in, but I am damned if I can find it now

M6L11

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1,222 posts

127 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
My view would be that a lot of the reaction is a response to the almost hysterical tone set by the OP's OP - and that tone was carried through elsewhere.

Having said that, Pampers response, bearing in mind they've identified the problem, is somewhat surprising. That's the kind of response you'd expect if they claimed to have found nothing wrong.
Hardly hysterical. Angry, furious, concerned; yes. If you found out your baby was injured because of third party negligence you'd unwittingly been complicit in, you'd feel pretty bloody terrible as well.

SpeedChick yes we're well aware of the other cases and have liaised with the parents involved. P&G insist they're all separate isolated incidents and only ours was caused by their factory.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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M6L11 said:
Hardly hysterical. Angry, furious, concerned; yes. If you found out your baby was injured because of third party negligence you'd unwittingly been complicit in, you'd feel pretty bloody terrible as well.
Wonder what you will feel like when you are 100% responsible for your child getting hurt, because it will happen ....

_dobbo_

14,382 posts

249 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Wonder what you will feel like when you are 100% responsible for your child getting hurt, because it will happen ....
Not the same thing, and you know it.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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_dobbo_ said:
Not the same thing, and you know it.
Yes it is.

Child gets a cut finger because the parent left a sharp knife accessible and nobody hears about it.

Child gets a cut bum because of some metal in a nappy and it's all over the net and the press.

Accidents happen, both in life and business.


M6L11

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1,222 posts

127 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Yes it is.

Child gets a cut finger because the parent left a sharp knife accessible and nobody hears about it.

Child gets a cut bum because of some metal in a nappy and it's all over the net and the press.

Accidents happen, both in life and business.
What strange things to say. If a parent leaves a knife out and a child is injured, there aren't another several million people potentially with the same knife unknowingly sitting on their table. Talk about a strawman. 'Accidents' (or indeed negligence) do happen, but if you can prevent further harm that's pretty much the sensible and decent thing to do. The manufacturer clearly weren't all that bothered, but we had several mails from people who had found metal in their nappies before use after seeing our story. That's potentially less injured babies so damn straight it was all over the net and the press.

ETA: I love how a multi-billion dollar global corporation put out piss poor products, but I'm the one constantly defending myself and my actions one way or another. If half the energy was directed at P&G they might have actually pulled their fingers out.

Edited by M6L11 on Friday 28th August 16:15

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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M6L11 said:
What strange things to say. If a parent leaves a knife out and a child is injured, there aren't another several million people potentially with the same knife unknowingly sitting on their table. Talk about a strawman.
And yet your priority was not to protect those other children as your first phone call was not to alert the manufacturer.

Strawman indeed.

You wanted your 15 minutes of fame, now you have to live with the consequences.

M6L11

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1,222 posts

127 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
And yet your priority was not to protect those other children as your first phone call was not to alert the manufacturer.

Strawman indeed.

You wanted your 15 minutes of fame, now you have to live with the consequences.
No it was to Trading Standards. How irrelevant eh? Quit trolling. Ironically I hesitated posting here precisely because of the mentality of most of the replies. We turned down interviews with three newspapers, four magazines (four figure sums) and a TV interview. (ETA oh and a BBC radio 4 interview). Yes, 15 minutes of fame indeed. Perhaps your viewpoint says more about you than us. Thanks for your input.

Greendubber

13,218 posts

204 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Yes it is.

Child gets a cut finger because the parent left a sharp knife accessible and nobody hears about it.

Child gets a cut bum because of some metal in a nappy and it's all over the net and the press.

Accidents happen, both in life and business.
Ridiculous

You're knife is nowhere near other peoples kids.

These nappies are sold all over the country so WILL be exposed to other folks kids arses.



spats

838 posts

156 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
And yet your priority was not to protect those other children as your first phone call was not to alert the manufacturer.

Strawman indeed.

You wanted your 15 minutes of fame, now you have to live with the consequences.
Seems like you might be after your own 15 mins of fame for being a completely obvious troll.

To the OP, no one deserves death threats or doctors accusing you of things either over something like this which was not your doing. This is exactly why I wouldn't let the press anywhere near my family. All they want is headlines, its totally ridiculous.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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No Bend said:
Thats a pretty piss poor response. I really don't subscribe to the compensation brigade, but in this instance i'd be seeking some legal advice.
Why, he said it wasn't about compensation or does it just depend on the level of compensation sought?

M6L11

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127 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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spats said:
Seems like you might be after your own 15 mins of fame for being a completely obvious troll.

To the OP, no one deserves death threats or doctors accusing you of things either over something like this which was not your doing. This is exactly why I wouldn't let the press anywhere near my family. All they want is headlines, its totally ridiculous.
To be fair the press coverage was fairly unbiased and factual (Daily Star dramatic lulz aside). It reached most of Europe as far as Greece, the USA (New York) and Australia with nary a bad word. The only idiots came out on Facebook and, ironically, PH.
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