No right turn, but did I turn right?
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IMO straight on is fine. The intent of the sign is to stop cars on maude Street attempting to turn into StricklandGate.
If you look at the same junction from the view of the A5284 - it states "left turn only" - meaning that traffic on the A5284 also cannot enter StricklandGate.
I suspect it's done so that traffic doesn't sit on the sharp bend blocking the road.
If you look at the same junction from the view of the A5284 - it states "left turn only" - meaning that traffic on the A5284 also cannot enter StricklandGate.
I suspect it's done so that traffic doesn't sit on the sharp bend blocking the road.
The other key piece for me is that Maude St is a cul de sac and there is nowhere to turn round to get you heading in the right direction if you have to turn left. Normally with these there is a roundabout soon after to allow you change direction, or another way out of the street you're exiting. This has neither.
Edited by LoonR1 on Saturday 22 August 20:13
Red Devil said:
Oh really: what's this then?http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/schedu...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/schedu...
Both South Lakeland District Council and Cumbria County council operate DPE.
Therefore they will have the necessary authority to issue a FPN for contravening a no right turn sign.
This is why the OP won't get a ticket from the local authority for contravening the no right turn sign (IF he did, which is another discussion) (unless it was in London or Wales, where he might - possibly).
The following provisions of the Act HAVE been brought into force:
Moving traffic offences in London
Bus lane offences in and out of London
Parking contraventions, again both in and out of London.
This is why authorities like Cumbria operate DPE. We all know they do that.
But, i repeat, they won't enforce moving traffic offences such as contravention of a no right turn.
Moonhawk said:
IMO straight on is fine. The intent of the sign is to stop cars on maude Street attempting to turn into StricklandGate.
If you look at the same junction from the view of the A5284 - it states "left turn only" - meaning that traffic on the A5284 also cannot enter StricklandGate.
I suspect it's done so that traffic doesn't sit on the sharp bend blocking the road.
Exactly this - and yet they let BUSES sit in the middle of the road waiting for a gap in traffic from Sandes Avenue to enter Stricklandgate despite their larger bulk, and slower acceleration!If you look at the same junction from the view of the A5284 - it states "left turn only" - meaning that traffic on the A5284 also cannot enter StricklandGate.
I suspect it's done so that traffic doesn't sit on the sharp bend blocking the road.
There are only three signs that indicate you should not go straight on from Windermere Road into Stricklandgate - the first is nearly overgrown today when I went past... it wasn't much better when Google went that way!
The other two are easily missed with everything that will be going on in front of you when it is busy...
Locals either ignore the turn left signs, or turn the corner and execute a U-turn on Sandes Avenue and turn left into Stricklandgate!
LoonR1 said:
Sorry, I completely misread it. Ignore my last post comments, as I think this confirms what I originally thought too.
Were you mislead? The road changes names on the bend - to the right it is WINDERMERE Road, and round the bend (or straight ahead from Maude Street) it is Sandes Avenue, although they are both A5284! 
Mill Wheel said:
Were you mislead? The road changes names on the bend - to the right it is WINDERMERE Road, and round the bend (or straight ahead from Maude Street) it is Sandes Avenue, although they are both A5284!
No I was just lazy amd made some incorrect assumption on road names. I assumed Strickalmdgate was the straight on road, not Sandes Ave. I'm going to have a look a this in the flesh tomorrow if the weather is good. 
Mill Wheel said:
So how was it for you... apart from the wind and the late monsoon?
Great run, usual naughtiness on the A6 on the way down from Penrith. Forgot to look at the junction though and did not enjoy the 30 miles riding through two inches of standing water in the pitch black at 5pm with a tinted visor and cut slick tyres. The wind was OK until Hartside and Penrith side of it, was quite interesting on the way down whilst doing a high speed to find that the bike wouldn't turn left no matter how much I hung off and pulled it. AnotherGareth said:
300bhp/ton said:
however to turn right you'd still have to cross the red cross hatched section, which is a no.
Others have explained "necessary" in the context of hatching bounded by a broken line, but I'm surprised you think the red surface coating has any meaning in this context.I'm still not sure I agree with the "necessary". That would need defining by example or case law. As you could always claim it's necessary to get somewhere or do something.
Mill Wheel said:
Your'e not the first! The bloke that designed this used to work in Barrow, and when he applied for the Cumbria County Council job, they gave him glowing references, and then had a party after he had gone!
So 300bhp/ton, just up the road to the left is this...
It is usually referred to as Plumgarths Roundabout... but IS it a roundabout?
Traffic from Windermere arriving via the A591 does not have to give way to anybody... unless they do a 360° before trying to get to Kendal!
Use Street view to look for the signs on the various roads that lead onto it!
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.3448714,-2.77447...
https://goo.gl/maps/9IZ8i
Traffic from the bottom right wanting to go north on the A10 has to queue at the white bit on the left of the screen. A lot of the paint work has faded and last week I watched an old woman completely ignore the give way driving straight into the path of thankfully someone who saw it coming and was already on the brakes.
https://goo.gl/maps/iYtZd
Not very clear to give way to the left to someone new to the area.
300bhp/ton said:
AnotherGareth said:
300bhp/ton said:
however to turn right you'd still have to cross the red cross hatched section, which is a no.
Others have explained "necessary" in the context of hatching bounded by a broken line, but I'm surprised you think the red surface coating has any meaning in this context.I'm still not sure I agree with the "necessary". That would need defining by example or case law. As you could always claim it's necessary to get somewhere or do something.
qualitystreet said:
Mill Wheel said:
If you carry on 4 miles from Kendal to Staveley, I can recommend the MORE bakery in the Mill Yard there for lunch or a coffee and snack
What's wrong with Wilfs? 
I use both - and have recently enjoyed a snack in the Hawkshead Brewery with the wife - I even let her drive home after!!
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