I got a speeding ticket for a car I sold! Help!

I got a speeding ticket for a car I sold! Help!

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Valgar

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850 posts

134 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Hi, I was wondering if this has happened to anyone here...

I sold a car on the 28/07/2015 and today I got a Speeding ticket for that car, the real problem is that I haven't had back the notice to say I sold it, I have since re-written to the DVLA and informed them I have sold. Also I spoke to the guy who I sold the car to and he said he'd sold it on (it was a part ex deal, non dealer) and he said he would text me the details, of course he's gone completely cold now and I can't get hold of him, the only thing I have is his address, I don't even have his name.

Now I'm a little worried because I don't want £100 and REALLY don't want 3 points as it'll affect my job.

How cooperative/sympathetic will the police be? I have some supporting evidence such as insurance cancellation and neighbours as witnesses to say I haven't had the car for a while, I am uncomfortably worried about this, anyone with any experience?

Many Thanks

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Write the police a letter explaining the date you sold the vehicle and the details of who you sold it to. After that it's someone else's problem. smile

Puddenchucker

4,036 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Valgar said:
Also I spoke to the guy who I sold the car to and he said he'd sold it on (it was a part ex deal, non dealer) and he said he would text me the details, of course he's gone completely cold now and I can't get hold of him, the only thing I have is his address, I don't even have his name.
How did you manage to fill in the Change of Keeper section of the V5 if you don't know his name?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Puddenchucker said:
How did you manage to fill in the Change of Keeper section of the V5 if you don't know his name?
In fairness, a month later I would've forgotten his name. I would've probably forgotten it by the next day.

sebhaque

6,402 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Am I right in assuming that tickets and such picked up by a vehicle are tied to the name on the V5 if there's no evidence to suggest anybody else was driving?

I sold my car to a private buyer a few years back and received a ticket for travelling through a red light about a week after I'd sold the car. It was dated for three days after I'd sold the car. I sent the relevant council a letter stating that I was no longer the registered keeper of the car and clipped a photocopy of the signed V5 (with the new keeper details filled in and signed). Got a letter back thanking me for the information and that the ticket would be removed from my name. Never knew if the new owner got retrospectively fined but I never heard a thing from the incident again.

P700DEE

1,107 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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A good reason for using the new DVLA on-line tool smile I had an e-mail confirming transfer within minutes and no need to post off the old V5 either so no stamp to pay for , result smile

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

116 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Krikkit said:
Write the police a letter explaining the date you sold the vehicle and the details of who you sold it to. After that it's someone else's problem. smile
Yeah. Then ignore any other letters that come.

Yes, that's definitely the best thing to do.

rickh

99 posts

119 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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did you not write up some form of sales receipt or invoice stating who you sold the car to on what day with a time of delivery???

rickh

99 posts

119 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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did you not write up some form of sales receipt or invoice stating who you sold the car to on what day with a time of delivery???

Valgar

Original Poster:

850 posts

134 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Thanks for everyone's replies.

I knew the guys name at the time but that was a month ago, can't remember it now.

I wasn't aware of an online tool, will look that up next time thanks

I didn't write up a receipt of sale, I always get one when I buy but never thought of doing it for sales unless they requested, to be honest 95% of my cars go to scrap. It's something I shall be doing in the future.

After having a night of sleep on it I feel somewhat safe that nothing will come of this, will try finding out his name later.



DaveCWK

1,979 posts

173 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Probably best to fill in the NIP with what you can remember of the seller, & accompany it with a short letter of explanation?
I'm sure this happens a lot & don't think you have anything to worry about.

SS2.

14,455 posts

237 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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As a person other than keeper, your are required to provide any information which is in your power to give and which may lead to identification of the driver.

In short, provide a written response to the s.172 request and detail what you know about the vehicle sale.

There is no obligation on you to start jumping through all sorts of additional hoops in an attempt to discover the details of the person you sold the vehicle to.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

185 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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RobinBanks said:
In fairness, a month later I would've forgotten his name. I would've probably forgotten it by the next day.
You said it was a part-ex deal - surely , then , he would be the previous keeper on the car you have now ?

Sheepshanks

32,530 posts

118 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Valgar said:
It's something I shall be doing in the future.
You really do have to keep these details - and don't trust anyone else to send the slip off to the DVLA.

You should set a reminder somewhere to make sure you get the acknowledgement back within 4 weeks and then chase it up (there's an online form on the DVLA page to do that) if you don't get it back.

ohtari

805 posts

143 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. A quick phone call to the number on the NIP is the first thing that needs done. The impression I got is that this happens fairly regularly. I can't remember the specifics, but I believe I just noted on the return form that I had sold the car before the noted date and posted it back.

I never heard anything more of it. At the end of the day, it's not your problem to be running around and sorting it out.

Sheepshanks

32,530 posts

118 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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ohtari said:
At the end of the day, it's not your problem to be running around and sorting it out.
It shouldn't be, but you could be in some difficulty if you haven't followed the legally mandated process. And even if you have, you might have to prove it, beyond reasonable doubt.

sugerbear

3,961 posts

157 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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P700DEE said:
A good reason for using the new DVLA on-line tool smile I had an e-mail confirming transfer within minutes and no need to post off the old V5 either so no stamp to pay for , result smile
Good spot. https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

jimmy the hat

429 posts

146 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Valgar said:
I don't want £100
I know it doesn't help much with the other problem but I'll have it. One less thing to worry about, eh? wink

Cheers, Jim

AyBee

10,522 posts

201 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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The Mad Monk said:
Krikkit said:
Write the police a letter explaining the date you sold the vehicle and the details of who you sold it to. After that it's someone else's problem. smile
Yeah. Then ignore any other letters that come.

Yes, that's definitely the best thing to do.
Why did you feel that response was required? The initial response from Krikkit is correct, as long as the OP can prove that he'd sold the car before it was caught speeding, it's not his problem and it's up to the police to then chase the next owner to prove whether the next guy owned it or not.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

185 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
It shouldn't be, but you could be in some difficulty if you haven't followed the legally mandated process. And even if you have, you might have to prove it, beyond reasonable doubt.
The legally mandated process is that you have to complete the new keeper's details on the V5 and post it to DVLA - end of .

Thanks to the Interpretations Act they are then deemed to have received it in the normal course of the post - if they don't , it isn't your problem and there is no requirement in law for you to chase anything .

If DVLA want to make an issue of it , they would have to prove , on the balance of probability , that you never posted it - since that is virtually impossible there is nothing more that can do .