Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

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lee_fr200

5,478 posts

190 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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This seems to happen a lot

First and foremost don't offer any compensation in writing as this will look guilty!

Secondly email him and tell him it was a private sale and at the time of sale the car was fine and he was welcome to get it inspected, however as soon as he left that's then his problem he could have done anything what I would do is insist that it doesn't go to an independent and that it goes to a Honda main dealer for full analysis and you want to deal with Honda direct so he can't bullst! Do not accept anything at all from a independent!

lee_fr200

5,478 posts

190 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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This seems to happen a lot

First and foremost don't offer any compensation in writing as this will look guilty!

Secondly email him and tell him it was a private sale and at the time of sale the car was fine and he was welcome to get it inspected, however as soon as he left that's then his problem he could have done anything what I would do is insist that it doesn't go to an independent and that it goes to a Honda main dealer for full analysis and you want to deal with Honda direct so he can't bullst! Do not accept anything at all from a independent!

celcius

688 posts

255 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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To the op
What he said above

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Thread drifting (and why not, as the thread itself is dull and same old same old, and probably all made up anyway), why the touching faith in main dealers and disdain for independents? My experience suggests that main dealers (for any type of car) are to be avoided if if you (a) actually want to get a car fixed, and (b) don't want to spend the GDP of several medium sized nations to get it fixed.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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lee_fr200 said:
what I would do is insist that it doesn't go to an independent and that it goes to a Honda main dealer for full analysis and you want to deal with Honda direct so he can't bullst! Do not accept anything at all from a independent!
I wouldn't be going anywhere near a main dealer with it - I'd far rather trust the opinion of a specialist indie.

Vyse

1,224 posts

124 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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You sure he didn't fill with diesel?

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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rigga said:
Did the OP ever answer the question did he hear the knocking noise when he turned up where the buyer was?
No I do not think he answered that question which is surprising as he was with the buyer at the KFC for 3 hours.Did he wait for the RAC man to turn up and what did he think was wrong with the car.

We also had the issue where someone called nick heppinstall edited the OPs opening post and although he came on here to say hello no explanation was given.Can a stranger edit another members post.They both live in Yorkshire I notice so perhaps they are a tag team.

Good point from a previous poster if he sold the car on Pistonheads there is a good chance the buyer is reading this thread.

OP do not reply to any communication from the buyer just ignore him as you may say something that may seam innocent but in the future may come back and bite you in the bum.

As the OP has not posted for a while part of me thinks as the new school term starts soon his mum has told him to get a haircut and needs some new school uniform.

Edited by btcc123 on Monday 31st August 10:42

22

2,303 posts

137 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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btcc123 said:
Can a stranger edit another members post.

Edited by a stranger on Monday 31st August 10:42
Yup

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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22 said:
btcc123 said:
Can a stranger edit another members post.

Edited by a stranger on Monday 31st August 10:42
Yup
No, Nick is a mod in SP&L.

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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22 said:
btcc123 said:
Can a stranger edit another members post.

Edited by a stranger on Monday 31st August 10:42
Yup
I saw what you did there rofl

Jasandjules

69,904 posts

229 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
WRONG! The Act applies to all sales. Some parts of the Act only apply to sales made in the course of business.
Perhaps I should have been overly complicated and stated that it must be as described and the owner have the right to sell it..

DanielJames

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

168 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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btcc123 said:
rigga said:
Did the OP ever answer the question did he hear the knocking noise when he turned up where the buyer was?
No I do not think he answered that question which is surprising as he was with the buyer at the KFC for 3 hours.Did he wait for the RAC man to turn up and what did he think was wrong with the car.

We also had the issue where someone called nick heppinstall edited the OPs opening post and although he came on here to say hello no explanation was given.Can a stranger edit another members post.They both live in Yorkshire I notice so perhaps they are a tag team.

Good point from a previous poster if he sold the car on Pistonheads there is a good chance the buyer is reading this thread.

OP do not reply to any communication from the buyer just ignore him as you may say something that may seam innocent but in the future may come back and bite you in the bum.

As the OP has not posted for a while part of me thinks as the new school term starts soon his mum has told him to get a haircut and needs some new school uniform.

Edited by btcc123 on Monday 31st August 10:42
To clarify:

Yes, I heard the noise. It was terrible, and definitely not there when the buyer drove off in the car.

I waited with the lad for the RAC hoping they would be able to diagnose the fault or perhaps give an insight to the failure.

You can fk off with that last line too. Ive been on here long enough now, I shouldn't be getting the school accusations.


DanielJames

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

168 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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For all the serious replies, thanks for the feedback.

I'll post back in here if I hear anything further.

Cheers
Dan

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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DanielJames said:
btcc123 said:
rigga said:
Did the OP ever answer the question did he hear the knocking noise when he turned up where the buyer was?
No I do not think he answered that question which is surprising as he was with the buyer at the KFC for 3 hours.Did he wait for the RAC man to turn up and what did he think was wrong with the car.

We also had the issue where someone called nick heppinstall edited the OPs opening post and although he came on here to say hello no explanation was given.Can a stranger edit another members post.They both live in Yorkshire I notice so perhaps they are a tag team.

Good point from a previous poster if he sold the car on Pistonheads there is a good chance the buyer is reading this thread.

OP do not reply to any communication from the buyer just ignore him as you may say something that may seam innocent but in the future may come back and bite you in the bum.

As the OP has not posted for a while part of me thinks as the new school term starts soon his mum has told him to get a haircut and needs some new school uniform.

Edited by btcc123 on Monday 31st August 10:42
To clarify:

Yes, I heard the noise. It was terrible, and definitely not there when the buyer drove off in the car.

I waited with the lad for the RAC hoping they would be able to diagnose the fault or perhaps give an insight to the failure.

You can fk off with that last line too. Ive been on here long enough now, I shouldn't be getting the school accusations.
That will be 100 lines for bad language sonny.

bigee

1,485 posts

238 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Good luck OP, i feel for you in this. Just because you show genuine concern over something you owned/sold you shouldnt have to suffer insinuations etc.
Selling (and buying for that matter ) privately is getting harder to deal with as the years go by, everyones an expert,payment methods,scams etc.You really can see why the likes of WBAC have flourished these last few years.
Try not to stress over this as nothing really to worry about,just the hassle you can do without.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Jasandjules said:
Breadvan72 said:
WRONG! The Act applies to all sales. Some parts of the Act only apply to sales made in the course of business.
Perhaps I should have been overly complicated and stated that it must be as described and the owner have the right to sell it..
If by "overly complicated" you mean "accurate", then yeah. I think that those of us who practise law ought to strive for accuracy when we offer help here. That doesn't mean that we have to write a doctoral dissertation or Supreme Court judgment in each post (come back Zeeky, all is (not) forgiven), and I am all in favour of concise summaries, but it's possible, I think, to err too far on the side of compression.

Fab32

380 posts

133 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Having read the whole thread and also the advert (why comment if you can be bothered, some people on here really are idiots) I can't see it being a scam. If the buyer is trying to scam you it's a pretty poor effort, the issue clearly started after you had the car either through bad luck or poor driving.

OP I fail to see you have done anything wrong, you've bought car, used it for a purpose and decided you don't want it anymore. It appears to be described accurately and you moved it on at a fair price. You could easily argue that you have gone well above an beyond by attending the 'breakdown' and offering him some money back.

I can see it from the buyers point of view though and could understand, on the presumption he hasn't downshifted or thrashed it, why he may think you knew about the problem before moving it on.

The issue here really appears to be his behaviour, the hand shaking to e-mail threats of legal action the same night, which is very odd.

What's you plan OP when he comes back with a report from whoever telling him you have sold him a nail?

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Off the top of my head I can imagine:
  • He already had a broken car in same spec, swapped plates, hopes you don't notice (bit of a stretch but not beyond the lengths some scensoredtes will go to?)
  • He knows a way to make a car sound very broken without being very broken (removing breathers, loosening an engine mount, disconnecting 1 or 2 plugs to cause a misfire.) and is trying to get a big discount for something he can cheaply and easily revert and he will get an "independent garage" (partner in crime)to quote a huge sum for it.
  • He broke it doing something daft and is trying to get you to pay for his stupidity.
  • It genuinely did just fail catastrophically through a somehow previously completely unnoticeable fault, which is really bad luck.
  • It genuinely did just fail, possibly due to him driving a bit harder than you would but is something really silly like a breather or a plug disconnected.
My money is on number 3.
You just have to find out what is broken and make sure you trust whoever is telling you that.

It sounds like you've done everything right and genuinely considered it to be in good shape, going by the ad I'd have been tempted if I had 6k spare and you come across as a decent and reasonable guy. Whatever happened I hope you get it sorted quickly, cheaply and with minimal stress.

Edited by scarble on Monday 31st August 13:46

Fab32

380 posts

133 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I'd like to think the OP could recognised his own car, unless of course the buyer switched the tyres, interior, clocks and anything else uniquely identifying! come on get real.

I'd also like to think the OP and RAC who recovered the car might notice a breather pipe or a engine mount.

OP is it possible that the car you viewed in KFC car park was a hologram and the knocking noise from the engine was merely the buyers pet woodpecker chipping away at his arse?

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I said it was a bit of a stretch biggrin
But it's not like in that situation you'd be checking little details, particularly if it was late at night. You'd be stressed and no doubt trying to resolve the situation and you'd have to be awfully sure of youself to say to the buyer "hold on while I go over the car with a fine toothed comb to ensure you are not trying to scam me" and some breather pipes can be rather hidden, as can ignition connections on some engines.