Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

Sold a Car that has broken down HELP ASAP

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mellowman

352 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Fab32 said:
fixed that for you
Yep, man falls in love with car, then sees it without makeup, wants divorce and trades it in for a newer model!

BertBert

19,045 posts

211 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Fab32 said:
fixed that for you
biggrin

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Moominator said:
Why would a bloke who admits he wouldnt keep the car long would carry out two oil changes within 4k(?). Especially after a trip to the 'ring.

I could see (some) grounds for the buyer to use that angle there.
What angle?

The buyer is claiming OP made misrepresentations. How is changing the oil evidence of that?

Vaud

50,511 posts

155 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Moominator said:
An attempt to mask a problem. Theres 'talk' of shifting from 5th to 2nd. If you've past your test a while what are the chances? Have you done it? I haven't and I'm not a fantastic driver. Thats in the many cars I've owned, ones I've borrowed or hired.
I can see an over enthused driver of a car that revs to what, 9k... getting over excited on taking delivery.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Moominator said:
An attempt to mask a problem. Theres 'talk' of shifting from 5th to 2nd. If you've past your test a while what are the chances? Have you done it? I haven't and I'm not a fantastic driver. Thats in the many cars I've owned, ones I've borrowed or hired.
I've done it. It was a rental van and the shift gate was quite narrow. It's certainly possible.

Vaud

50,511 posts

155 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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davepoth said:
I've done it. It was a rental van and the shift gate was quite narrow. It's certainly possible.
I've mis-shifted up and down the box before. It happens when you drive for 20+years and many different cars.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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I was in a traffic light GP some years ago with a car that went 1st - 2nd - 1st , causing a lock up and lots of blue smoke (tyre and engine)

TankRizzo

7,272 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Moominator said:
Why would a bloke who admits he wouldnt keep the car long would carry out two oil changes within 4k(?). Especially after a trip to the 'ring.

I could see (some) grounds for the buyer to use that angle there.
I would say doing an oil change after a 'Ring trip is eminently sensible and nothing that would cause me any alarm. It's a long way to get there & back, and the oil will get abused on a couple of laps.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Since when is changing the oil ever going to mask a problem? Plain daft.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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It could be a noisy timing chain tensioner and not a big end knock? Did you use the same spec oil for both changes?

Butter Face

30,311 posts

160 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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It's been over a week, surely his mechanic has now checked the car and he's ready to sue?

TroubledSoul

4,599 posts

194 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Yeah here's hoping for an update OP?

S10GTA

12,680 posts

167 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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TroubledSoul said:
Yeah here's hoping for an update OP?
dannyDC2 said:
Nope, must be someone else.

Had a text this morning off the buyer stating the cars off to a garage on Tuesday and he'll update me what the outcome is. Haven't responded yet. Don't understand how someone can send that legal bks through email then send a polite text a few days after.

ruggedscotty

5,626 posts

209 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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why you even in contact - its harassment.....

take advice and tell him to sling his hook. so if it comes back as something seriously wrong are you going to take it back ? give a full refund etc...

he knows what buying a car involves a private sale no comeback legally what so ever. nadda not a sausage not a bean nowt.

and you are still discussing it ? please for your own sake just tell him that his is the last conversation you are having with him. its his car. his problem and he needs to move on. accept that there is no comeback.

and if he continues then fire a warning shot off - its harassment. cheeky bugger....

Jasandjules

69,909 posts

229 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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ruggedscotty said:
he knows what buying a car involves a private sale no comeback legally what so ever. nadda not a sausage not a bean nowt.
Whilst caveat emptor applies, so is there a requirement not to misrepresent.......

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Jasandjules said:
Whilst caveat emptor applies, so is there a requirement not to misrepresent.......
And also (potentially) to convince a court that you're not, in fact, trading on the side - not a difficult allegation to make with short ownership and several car changes this year. Fail to convince them of that and caveat emptor is right out the window.

OP, I'm not suggesting you are trading btw - but I'm sure you can see how easy it would be for him to allege that you are. If it does go near court, you need to be prepared to defend that angle to a judge who may not be familiar with the concept of enthusiasts getting bored with cars and swapping them frequently!

Swampy1982

3,306 posts

111 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I'm only here for the update...

BertBert

19,045 posts

211 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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ruggedscotty said:
and if he continues then fire a warning shot off - its harassment. cheeky bugger....
It's not harassment at all. The other guy has asserted that the OP has misrepresented the car. He's had a meeting, made his position known and sent an update on timing of the inspection. Hardly harassment.

As one of our legal brethren has warned earlier on the OP would be unwise to cease dialogue.

Bert

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Moominator said:
An attempt to mask a problem. Theres 'talk' of shifting from 5th to 2nd. If you've past your test a while what are the chances? Have you done it? I haven't and I'm not a fantastic driver. Thats in the many cars I've owned, ones I've borrowed or hired.
Look, a misrepresentation is a statement of fact (e.g. I changed the oil after 3 months) that induces the buyer to buy and which is false. If, when made, the seller knew the statement to be false that's fraudulent misrep ( as opposed to a statement that was false but the seller did not know it to be false).

Even if the oil was changed to 'mask a problem' I am not convinced telling the buyer you changed the oil is a misrep.

williamp

19,260 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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So, todays he day. You'll hear either

1) nothing
2) his mate saying something vague about problems but with very precise costs attached to it
3) nothing

My money is on 1 or 3