New Lidl car park system. Invoices by default?

[LoonR1]

Funkycoldribena said:

LoonR1 said:

I don't actually ship at Aldi, but have no issue respecting others property and their right to charge me / insist I follow a few rules to park on their land. I don't fear being late, I don't live in fear over anything, you ought to look in the mirror to see the fearful one on this thread.

I certainly don't live in fear having tossed several completely unjust "invoices" in the bin a while back,but I certainly have no respect to being charged for shopping in an establishment where they want my custom/money.Anyway good luck with the sailing wherever it may be.

Edited by Funkycoldribena on Tuesday 1st September 18:08

Ah yes, well done. I've accidentally typed an "I" instead of an "o" on a small keyboard on a smartphone and that completely negates my point and makes your wibble correct

Go back to wishing that multi-billion pound businesses will fail because of this. Nutter.

[bad company]

LoonR1 said:

Ah yes, well done. I've accidentally typed an "I" instead of an "o" on a small keyboard on a smartphone and that completely negates my point and makes your wibble correct

Go back to wishing that multi-billion pound businesses will fail because of this. Nutter.

Seriously Loon are you in competition with BV for the rudest PHer prize? Clearly you are both very knowlegible in your fields but what do you hope to achieve by calling somebody playground names?

[LoonR1]

bad company said:

LoonR1 said:

Ah yes, well done. I've accidentally typed an "I" instead of an "o" on a small keyboard on a smartphone and that completely negates my point and makes your wibble correct

Go back to wishing that multi-billion pound businesses will fail because of this. Nutter.

Seriously Loon are you in competition with BV for the rudest PHer prize? Clearly you are both very knowlegible in your fields but what do you hope to achieve by calling somebody playground names?

The only thing that you've taken from mine and the preceding three or four posts is the word "nutter"? You've completely missed the ship related comments from funkycoldribena and the other one, all over a minor typo?

Review your bias vision.

[bad company]

LoonR1 said:

The only thing that you've taken from mine and the preceding three or four posts is the word "nutter"? You've completely missed the ship related comments from funkycoldribena and the other one, all over a minor typo?

Review your bias vision.

Yes ship was obviously a typo which would have been better ignored but come on you know that you and BV have form when it comes to over aggressive responses and name calling.

Oh well you use PH as you wish with the style you seem to favour.

[Red Devil]

speedyguy said:

Red Devil said:

Where is the term on the signage which permits the PPC to do this? - https://goo.gl/maps/BKr96
That is the PPC's standard sign (easier to read version here - http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6ienCJZ4MfI/U3MxYTbHvrI/...

Nice £20 reduced to £12, Our local hospital is £70 reduced to £40 all on Anpr and reg no so disabled etc do not show badge but have to register reg number at reception desk.

The parking charge sum/reduction varies between different sites. The St Aldhelm's Road one is £90/£50. That's the only difference.
In this case all the other wording and pictograms in the Terms and Conditions part of the sign are the same.

The lettering/background colours have swapped over (blue/white & white/blue).

Is your local hospital car park also managed by TPS? Not all PPCs have exactly the same arrangements for Blue Badge holders.

[anonymous-user]

Red Devil said:

Is your local hospital car park also managed by TPS? Not all PPCs have exactly the same arrangements for Blue Badge holders.

Parking eye/Capita
Seems like at least 40 possible patients caught out in first month of operation
http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/fury-fi...

[Kateg28]

Funkycoldribena said:

but I certainly have no respect to being charged for shopping in an establishment where they want my custom/money.

Edited by Funkycoldribena on Tuesday 1st September 18:08

But they don't charge, that is kinda the point.

I went in, did my shopping, entered my reg no to prove I was using their land both to park and shop and then left. No money changed hands and neither will it.
The car is fully legal so I don't give a monkey's if they contact DVLA, I have nothing to fear, but I seriously doubt they will bother anyway.

The charge is for people who use their land and do not shop there.

[FiF]

Kateg28 said:

Funkycoldribena said:

but I certainly have no respect to being charged for shopping in an establishment where they want my custom/money.

Edited by Funkycoldribena on Tuesday 1st September 18:08

But they don't charge, that is kinda the point.

I went in, did my shopping, entered my reg no to prove I was using their land both to park and shop and then left. No money changed hands and neither will it.
The car is fully legal so I don't give a monkey's if they contact DVLA, I have nothing to fear, but I seriously doubt they will bother anyway.

The charge is for people who use their land and do not shop there.

Fully agree. I went to Aldi in Worcester looking for some wagyu burgers. They didn't have any so left without buying anything. Except a short pause to enter registration at the screen near checkout. Minor delay, no problem then or later.

[Funkycoldribena]

FiF said:

Fully agree. I went to Aldi in Worcester looking for some wagyu burgers. They didn't have any so left without buying anything. Except a short pause to enter registration at the screen near checkout. Minor delay, no problem then or later.

So I can park my car there,go somewhere else then come back and punch my number in without buying anything? Sort of makes the system redundant...

[bad company]

I still say my 86 year old mother will not be the only OAP unable to cope with what to most of us is a simple system.

As I stated previously she doesn't even know her car reg number.

[FiF]

We all get that you ribena object to landowners trying to find some solution to freeloaders interfering with their and their customers right to enjoy peaceful use of the space and wish to find any excuse to show that things are never perfect. Fine carry on. Sensible people will just think you're a bit of a tit.

[Funkycoldribena]

FiF said:

We all get that you ribena object to landowners trying to find some solution to freeloaders interfering with their and their customers right to enjoy peaceful use of the space and wish to find any excuse to show that things are never perfect. Fine carry on. Sensible people will just think you're a bit of a tit.

Bit pissy because I found a flaw in your stty system?
You might be happy to see Simon Renshaw-smith get richer and richer by "fining" people such as Bad Companies mum for minor indiscretions but I'm not,you might want to enter your reg.no in every shop you enter,but I dont.The Morrissons where I shop has no restrictions and guess what?,I have no problem parking.If that makes me a tit then so be it,I dont care but in my eyes you're a tit for wanting more and more restrictions in the daily life of people just going about their business.

[FiF]

But you want it all ways. You want to object to people who charge for using the space if they're not a customer. You also find fault if someone says ok you don't have to be a customer that has actually made a purchase but we'd still like to do something to stop freeloaders as far as possible. You've raised Morrisons and the ability for people to go about their normal business. As it happens our Morrisons and Sainsburys don't have any charging system. Yet many is the time that it is impossible to find a space yet see lots of people parking up and clearing off elsewhere. Now that's also interfering with people wanting to go about their normal business. Or firms who have deliveries and their own transport movements obstructed because of inconsiderate parking.

There is no perfect solution apart from entry and exit control using whatever physical barrier method is appropriate. Anything else will be imperfect in some way.

Of course anyone is free to vote with their feet. Your choice. My choice is to see both sides. As long as any restrictions or requirements are made clear, and there is no entrapment, which was an issue in the bad old daysack of clamping, then seeing as some drivers are intent on being tits it's a necessary control.

[Mandalore]

Funkycoldribena said:

FiF said:

We all get that you ribena object to landowners trying to find some solution to freeloaders interfering with their and their customers right to enjoy peaceful use of the space and wish to find any excuse to show that things are never perfect. Fine carry on. Sensible people will just think you're a bit of a tit.

Bit pissy because I found a flaw in your stty system?
You might be happy to see Simon Renshaw-smith get richer and richer by "fining" people such as Bad Companies mum for minor indiscretions but I'm not,you might want to enter your reg.no in every shop you enter,but I dont.The Morrissons where I shop has no restrictions and guess what?,I have no problem parking.If that makes me a tit then so be it,I dont care but in my eyes you're a tit for wanting more and more restrictions in the daily life of people just going about their business.

Actually, you are indeed acting in a strange manner.

The ONLY logical conclusion FiF, myself and others can surmise is that its because you object to NOT being able to park in one business, but go somewhere else with a process like this in mind.

You really DO NOT come across as the protector of the innocent that you think you are pretending to be.

[PAULJ5555]

Helicopter123 said:

I'm struggling to see the problem with this.

Lidl customers get to use a Lidl car park free of charge when shopping in Lidl?

Anyone else wishing to park in the Lidl private car park pays a fee?

Seems perfectly reasonable?

Will you please stop talking common sense.

[Kateg28]

bad company said:

I still say my 86 year old mother will not be the only OAP unable to cope with what to most of us is a simple system.

As I stated previously she doesn't even know her car reg number.

I do agree this might be an issue but write her reg no on a small piece of paper and pop it in her purse.
Alternatively I would imagine someone in the shop will help her, I know I would help someone having difficulty.

To Ribena, no it is not perfect. Why don't you come up with a solution that means the car park owned by businesses is used by their customers only (even if they also go elsewhere during their trip which is fair enough) and costs nothing to those legitimate customers? Genuinely, let's hear it?

[oyster]

rich888 said:

And on a different note, if I shopped at Lidl and was asked for my car registration number at the till I would have to say I don't remember it, then would promptly walk out of the store like any good Lidl customer would to the car, then back again in order to provide it to the drone on the till with the numberplate. Might take a bit of time what with the dodgy leg, the cigarette break, checking the weather forecast, and any other incidental trivia that I could think of to piss the Lidl management off and realise that it is the customer that they serve, not the other fking way round, then leave everything on the conveyor or trolley, walk out of the store and drive over to Aldi

You mention they should be serving customers.... yet an initiative they have put in place to enable their customers to be more able to park there is berated by you?

Odd.

[blueg33]

I sometimes go into Lidl for about 15 minutes to look just in case they have something odd I may want to buy. There are always long queues at the till so if there is nothing I want to buy I just walk out. If this means I will get a ticket then I wont go there at all. So they won't get my custom on the odd occasion I fancy some random tat

[Hol]

oyster said:

rich888 said:

And on a different note, if I shopped at Lidl and was asked for my car registration number at the till I would have to say I don't remember it, then would promptly walk out of the store like any good Lidl customer would to the car, then back again in order to provide it to the drone on the till with the numberplate. Might take a bit of time what with the dodgy leg, the cigarette break, checking the weather forecast, and any other incidental trivia that I could think of to piss the Lidl management off and realise that it is the customer that they serve, not the other fking way round, then leave everything on the conveyor or trolley, walk out of the store and drive over to Aldi

You mention they should be serving customers.... yet an initiative they have put in place to enable their customers to be more able to park there is berated by you?

Odd.

Yup,
They should (and would) be serving the customers who want to park and shop.
Not pandering to those who want to be pocket anarchists.

I do find it a little bit weird, that (knowing in advance that it is required) somebody would openly wish to pretend they don't know their registration number and waste their own free time - on the assumption that Lidl would be the ones disadvantaged.

Would you also go to the bank to pay in a cheque and queue for the cashier and then pretend you don't have the cheque with you - because that will teach the bank who is boss.

[Hol]

blueg33 said:

I sometimes go into Lidl for about 15 minutes to look just in case they have something odd I may want to buy. There are always long queues at the till so if there is nothing I want to buy I just walk out. If this means I will get a ticket then I wont go there at all. So they won't get my custom on the odd occasion I fancy some random tat

I do that too. But I don't think it will stop me doing it, as it takes me 15mins to drive there 5mins extra in a queue is hardly going to be the end of the world as I know it. Especially, if I no longer have to wait over 5mins for a free space that isn't disabled.