Drink / Drive Position - Motorhome in Pub Car Park
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esxste said:
Not so strange when you think the country also has an obsession with forcing seriously ill and disabled people to almost literally jump through hoops to get state help, when millionaires get juicy tax cuts and large corporations are allowed to avoid paying billions in taxes on profits they make here.
Just saying...
Anyway, I'd be surprised if any copper were to wake a guy up in his campervan and charge him with intent to drive while under the influence of alcohol. :\
Hahahahahhaha. What a load of garbage. Did you just swallow a copy of The Socialist or some other communist rag?Just saying...
Anyway, I'd be surprised if any copper were to wake a guy up in his campervan and charge him with intent to drive while under the influence of alcohol. :\
I have done this dozens of times in varying campers I've had, pub/club carparks, discrete spots after gigs, remote spots in the wilderness etc.
I'd ensure my drivers seat was turned to face the inner camper.
have a crook lock on the steering wheel. put clothes etc on the drivers seat.
i.e its bleedin' obvious the vehicle isn't in a position to be driven.
Of course keys in a drawer etc, out of the way.
never had any issues, although who knows if you get a copper wanting to make a deal out of it.
I'd ensure my drivers seat was turned to face the inner camper.
have a crook lock on the steering wheel. put clothes etc on the drivers seat.
i.e its bleedin' obvious the vehicle isn't in a position to be driven.
Of course keys in a drawer etc, out of the way.
never had any issues, although who knows if you get a copper wanting to make a deal out of it.
chrispwill said:
Sorry for a slight hijack, and this is a genuine question, but a mate (yes it was a mate) once slept in his car in a car park, after drinking more than he was expecting to. Is that completely illegal then? He slept on the back seats.
If the keys were in the car with him then PC plod COULD arrest him for DD if they suspected he was intending to drive. Of course you would then have to convince the powers that be that you had no intention of driving.It's not illegal, more unwise if you don't want to take the risk.
garyhun said:
If the keys were in the car with him then PC plod COULD arrest him for DD if they suspected he was intending to drive. Of course you would then have to convince the powers that be that you had no intention of driving.
It's not illegal, more unwise if you don't want to take the risk.
Fair enough, don't think the keys were in the car, but good to know. CheersIt's not illegal, more unwise if you don't want to take the risk.
LoonR1 said:
There's some serious paranoia on here.
Why aren't we seeing regular threads requesting help from motorhome owners who've been nicked by plod? We aren't because they're not interested in knocking on the doors of motorhomes to arrest people sleeping in the back of them.
Agreed.Why aren't we seeing regular threads requesting help from motorhome owners who've been nicked by plod? We aren't because they're not interested in knocking on the doors of motorhomes to arrest people sleeping in the back of them.
The Mad Monk said:
Antony Moxey said:
if the OP's mate's in a pub car park then isn't he not liable to a DD charge as he's not on a public road anyway?
No, it's no good, I just can't unravel all those negatives!What does it say and what does it mean?
Antony Moxey said:
The Mad Monk said:
Antony Moxey said:
if the OP's mate's in a pub car park then isn't he not liable to a DD charge as he's not on a public road anyway?
No, it's no good, I just can't unravel all those negatives!What does it say and what does it mean?
Many thanks for your views, chaps - I'll pass on the wisdom to my colleague.
Paranoia? Well, maybe - but what would PH be without it?
Also, he is a little bit paranoid (!) so I'll suggest he hands over the keys to the pub landlord...
Some posters have mentioned being fast asleep as an indication of 'lack of intent' - but what about being fully clothed, watching TV??
Paranoia? Well, maybe - but what would PH be without it?
Also, he is a little bit paranoid (!) so I'll suggest he hands over the keys to the pub landlord...
Some posters have mentioned being fast asleep as an indication of 'lack of intent' - but what about being fully clothed, watching TV??
280E said:
Many thanks for your views, chaps - I'll pass on the wisdom to my colleague.
Paranoia? Well, maybe - but what would PH be without it?
Also, he is a little bit paranoid (!) so I'll suggest he hands over the keys to the pub landlord...
Some posters have mentioned being fast asleep as an indication of 'lack of intent' - but what about being fully clothed, watching TV??
Explain how being in a pub car park differs from being at a campsite. Are we seeing police raids for all the nasty people sitting down enjoyin ha glass of wine with their evening meals whilst watching Coronation St?Paranoia? Well, maybe - but what would PH be without it?
Also, he is a little bit paranoid (!) so I'll suggest he hands over the keys to the pub landlord...
Some posters have mentioned being fast asleep as an indication of 'lack of intent' - but what about being fully clothed, watching TV??
TooMany2cvs said:
LoonR1 said:
Explain how being in a pub car park differs from being at a campsite.
It's 10pm. A pub car park is full of vehicles, as is the campsite next door.How many of those vehicles in the car park are likely to still be there in the morning?
How many in the campsite?
Why would the police be more interested in the person who has arranged an overnight stay in the car park compared to those staying over on the campsite?
I believe in planning for the worst - whilst hoping for the best.
So, I would remove whatever ignition leads immobilised the vehicle and ask the landlord to hold them until morning.
Or the keys to a wheel clamp - if such was available.
I would doubt any copper would even want the paperwork, when it was proved up front the vehicle could not be started or moved.
So, I would remove whatever ignition leads immobilised the vehicle and ask the landlord to hold them until morning.
Or the keys to a wheel clamp - if such was available.
I would doubt any copper would even want the paperwork, when it was proved up front the vehicle could not be started or moved.
Ex workmate had exactly this problem though this was about 20 years ago.
Came back home from his stag do to find he couldn't get in his house so went to sleep in the back of his works van.
Copper 'found' him and charged him with Drunk in charge. Had to go to court with his job literally on the line.
Got found not guilty as I guess it was not proved he had any intention to drive.
Came back home from his stag do to find he couldn't get in his house so went to sleep in the back of his works van.
Copper 'found' him and charged him with Drunk in charge. Had to go to court with his job literally on the line.
Got found not guilty as I guess it was not proved he had any intention to drive.
TooMany2cvs said:
LoonR1 said:
Why would the police be more interested in the person who has arranged an overnight stay in the car park...
Always assuming they have, of course. If the landlord can confirm they have, then that definitely brings the likelihood right down.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff