August 27th M25 54mph in a 40 - Clackett Lane

August 27th M25 54mph in a 40 - Clackett Lane

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anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
anonymous said:
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What a drama queen! HA should've told him to fk off and to learn how to accelerate properly using the hard shoulder before rejoining the carriageway - you know, like everyone else has to do.
There is no hard shoulder, just these emergency bays every so often. As I had lost my drive belt and lost all power steering and brakes I was stopped almost at the end of it as well

It was quite lucky I was near one tbf otherwise would have been stopped in L1

Sea Demon

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1,159 posts

213 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Maybe but I've also seen it in place at times such as 2am when there has been no accidents, no traffic, no obstructions, roadworks etc.

Anyway, all sorted now so thanks for everybody for your replies and help.

Hol

8,419 posts

200 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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When I drove that stretch both ways in rush hour, long before the cameras, the traffic every morning and most evenings would stop at clacketts for no apparent reason.

I have no idea why, as not that high a percentage of traffic is pulling off/on, but it seems to be bottleneck nonetheless.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Hol said:
When I drove that stretch both ways in rush hour, long before the cameras, the traffic every morning and most evenings would stop at clacketts for no apparent reason.

I have no idea why, as not that high a percentage of traffic is pulling off/on, but it seems to be bottleneck nonetheless.
It's always been a pinch point as you get a lot of traffic joining/leaving the M26, they've been 'improving' it for a couple of years but its made no real difference.

Hol

8,419 posts

200 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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From the OP's perspective that might help explain why that stretch has been hit with a 40 limit?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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yes also my post above when I broke down, as I say if you had come along after we had rejoined you could be forgiven for thinking there was no reason for the limit.

I'm not of the theory that they just do this for sts and giggles, there will generally be a reason even if it isnt immediately apparent

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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I hope then that common sense is applied to anyone 'caught' doing 50 in lane 4 with no increased risk whatever. I know the law's the law, but that would be an opportunistic fleecing, backed up by a step towards being banned, for what?

slk 32

1,487 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
anonymous said:
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What a drama queen! HA should've told him to fk off and to learn how to accelerate properly using the hard shoulder before rejoining the carriageway - you know, like everyone else has to do.
the problem is that the hard shoulder has been turned into another lane so people who break down either have to use lane 1 or one of the refuges. I foresee these fines becoming more commonplace as these incidences become a more regular occurrence

slk 32

1,487 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
anonymous said:
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What a drama queen! HA should've told him to fk off and to learn how to accelerate properly using the hard shoulder before rejoining the carriageway - you know, like everyone else has to do.
the problem is that the hard shoulder has been turned into another lane so people who break down either have to use lane 1 or one of the refuges. I foresee these fines becoming more commonplace as these incidences become a more regular occurrence

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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slk 32 said:
the problem is that the hard shoulder has been turned into another lane so people who break down either have to use lane 1 or one of the refuges. I foresee these fines becoming more commonplace as these incidences become a more regular occurrence
Why would fines become more commonplace? They light up the gantries with big red speed limit signs, just slow down?

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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Because 99% of drivers don't read the signs as they can only see as far as the end of their bonnet. You can see in action this for yourself whenever one or more lanes are coned off for roadworks. They will drive right up to the cones at 80mph then suddenly veer across the road in utter shock when they suddenly realise their bit of tarmac has run out. The fact that they had at least 16 signs warning them of the closure over the past 3/4 of a mile seems to escape them...

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
anonymous said:
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Because 99% of drivers don't read the signs as they can only see as far as the end of their bonnet. You can see in action this for yourself whenever one or more lanes are coned off for roadworks. They will drive right up to the cones at 80mph then suddenly veer across the road in utter shock when they suddenly realise their bit of tarmac has run out. The fact that they had at least 16 signs warning them of the closure over the past 3/4 of a mile seems to escape them...
Then they deserve to be fined IMO smile

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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yes

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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In congested traffic sure, but on a quiet motorway, as in the example above, slowing from 70 to 40 in lane 3 makes me feel very vulnerable to anyone who has not read, or chooses to ignore, the sign. Still at least the ensuing accident will be their fault and insurance will cover the costs.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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speedking31 said:
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In congested traffic sure, but when the motorway looks clear, as in the example above, slowing from 70 to 40 in lane 3 makes me feel very vulnerable to anyone who has not read, or chooses to ignore, the sign. Still at least the ensuing accident will be their fault and insurance will cover the costs.
So move to Lane 2 or 1? You are aware you don't HAVE to be in L3?

As said, there are many reasons for putting it in place, one I explained earlier, I have also recently had an incident whereby the warning signs were in place for no apparent reason, so I slowed, then they had a L3 shut sign, of course Mr Audi 2.0 TDI knew better, I am sure the repair bill for hitting the ladders that had fallen off a van won't ruin his day

tapereel

1,860 posts

116 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I drive 30k miles/year most of which are on motorways and I have never been in a situation where I have not been able to slow to the speed limit or less at a gantry sign in any lane.
Where are the motorways that present drivers with these threatening and speedy situations?
Maybe the driving test should be a lot harder.

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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Yes, but for the right things. How is a speeding fine going to make them change their dodgy behaviour?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Pete317 said:

Yes, but for the right things. How is a speeding fine going to make them change their dodgy behaviour?
Because they'll get the fine and think 'st, I didn't notice the gantry, I should pay more attention in future'?

Tapereel, agree 100%

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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And pigs may yet master the art of flight

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Loo
Pete317 said:
And pigs may yet master the art of flight
hehe