Watch out for Tractors
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The guidelines provide scope for more extreme methods when appropriate. When you have a high-risk road to bikers which has its own specific operation, then these methods may be justified.
The revenue argument is, as usual, flawed and disingenuous. If you were concerned about revenue why would you set up an operation which uses handheld devices and a check point (multiple resources), followed by only targeting those whom won't be eligible for a speed awareness course and thus all the money will go to the treasury?
The revenue argument is, as usual, flawed and disingenuous. If you were concerned about revenue why would you set up an operation which uses handheld devices and a check point (multiple resources), followed by only targeting those whom won't be eligible for a speed awareness course and thus all the money will go to the treasury?
Why the surprise, it's been going on for years: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-563951/Pic...
dacouch said:
I've heard the Dutch Police use even sneakier tactics.
Yes very common in Holland indeed!They put them in wheely bins, trailers, and very often in the bumpers of parked cars.
I was pleasantly suprised they didn't do that over here when i moved over from Holland, at least untill now...
Parked cars with bumper camera's :
La Liga said:
The revenue argument is, as usual, flawed and disingenuous. If you were concerned about revenue why would you set up an operation which uses handheld devices and a check point (multiple resources), followed by only targeting those whom won't be eligible for a speed awareness course and thus all the money will go to the treasury?
They got £1,800,000 for themselves according to the article.But as you say, it's not about revenue.
Rovinghawk said:
La Liga said:
The revenue argument is, as usual, flawed and disingenuous. If you were concerned about revenue why would you set up an operation which uses handheld devices and a check point (multiple resources), followed by only targeting those whom won't be eligible for a speed awareness course and thus all the money will go to the treasury?
They got £1,800,000 for themselves according to the article.But as you say, it's not about revenue.
It's not, is the short answer.
La Liga said:
ow is that general FOI request related to the specific deployment and operation the article talks of, and the specific comment I made about revenue related to the specific deployment?
It's not, is the short answer.
When money got redrected to the treasury, SCP activities dwindled. When they got the idea of SACs & similar where they could keep money for themselves they suddenly became more active.It's not, is the short answer.
But I agreed with you- it's not about the money they make for themselves, no matter how many millions of pounds that might be.
ker has to go slowly.Rovinghawk said:
When money got redrected to the treasury, SCP activities dwindled.
When they got the idea of SACs & similar where they could keep money for themselves they suddenly became more active.
But I agreed with you- it's not about the money they make for themselves, no matter how many millions of pounds that might be.
So the FOI from data 4 years earlier doesn't mean much then. When they got the idea of SACs & similar where they could keep money for themselves they suddenly became more active.
But I agreed with you- it's not about the money they make for themselves, no matter how many millions of pounds that might be.
The activities dwindled once central funding, the road safety grants, were reduced. This was years after SACs were in place and years after the force's were able to keep a small portion of the revenue from SACs.
Funny how they are apparently motivated by revenue, yet didn't manage to work out that they could have stopped the SCPs reducing before and at the time the grant was reduced, isn't it?
Not one person managed to figure it out.
BullyB said:
If it had anything to do with safety, they would have a marked car complete with flashing lights. By actually allowing the vehicles to continue driving fast and not stopping/slowing them down, they are proving there actually isn't any danger...
The article states that they are actually stopped:"Inspector Mark Hughes from Humberside Police Road Policing said: 'At the moment Humberside Police are conducting Operation Kansas in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
'This operation runs alongside the well-established and much publicised Operation Achilles. It is concerned with "high-end" speeding offenders in East Riding, deploying speed cameras, which are located in a variety of stationary vehicles.
'Vehicles which are detected travelling at very high speeds are stopped further along the road and drivers/riders are spoken to and dealt with at the roadside. "
I'd still agree it's sneaky though!
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