More Evidence against LIDAR

[Davidonly]

LTI 20-20 dodgy scope looks like its days are numbered. I wonder how many folk lost licenses (jobs / homes) due to these things and their potential for serious error?

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/manufacturer-news/...

[catfood12]

That fella posted on here many months ago, with details of the telematics fitted and was discussing the possibility of challenging the charge... Can't find the thread now. Or the one about the pillar of the community grizzling about his FP for no MOT. Where do these threads go ?!

[JustinP1]

I think you're right catfood... now you've said that I do remember.

[Vaud]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...

Certainly an active campaigner.

[JustinP1]

Vaud said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...

Certainly an active campaigner.

Que?

[anonymous-user]

Loony thread is loony, but it is good to be reminded in passing of good old Streaky. He vanished from PH very suddenly. I think that he was not young. I fear the worst.

[anonymous-user]

The use of the word "folk" is often if not invariably a FOTL wibblist alert flag. Won't someone think of the homeless puppies!

The single Mags case reported tells us little about which devices are accurate and which are not. The CPS might have lost the file, or not had someone available to run the case or whatevs (the CPS currently operate on an annual budget of a quid. The police get the other 50p, or is it the other way around?).

Anyway, you ent seen me, roight?

[spikeyhead]

Breadvan72 said:

The use of the word "folk" is often if not invariably a FOTL wibblist alert flag. Won't someone think of the homeless puppies!

The single Mags case reported tells us little about which devices are accurate and which are not. The CPS might have lost the file, or not had someone available to run the case or whatevs (the CPS currently operate on an annual budget of a quid. The police get the other 50p, or is it the other way around?).

Anyway, you ent seen me, roight?

Oh yes we have [/panto]

[johnfm]

JustinP1 said:

Vaud said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...

Certainly an active campaigner.

Que?

I think he means Neil Herron - the bloke named in both matters.

[anonymous-user]

A serial litigant and campaigny loon, it appears, with a name reminiscent of A P Herbert's Mr Haddock. One of the soi disant Metric Martyrs, IIRC (or at least one of their shouty supporters). Just think of the good that could be done if such people devoted their energies to stuff that actually matters!

http://ansible.uk/writing/miscases.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoburn_v_Sunderland...

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 3rd October 08:12

[13m]

Breadvan72 said:

Anyway, you ent seen me, roight?

We have seen you quite a lot, considering that you've promised to bugger off at least twice.

[anonymous-user]

It's the charming company of such as you that keeps me loyal to the old gaff. Sentimental, yes, but hey.

[Vaud]

johnfm said:

I think he means Neil Herron - the bloke named in both matters.

Yes.

[JustinP1]

johnfm said:

JustinP1 said:

Vaud said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...

Certainly an active campaigner.

Que?

I think he means Neil Herron - the bloke named in both matters.

Ahh cheers - I thought the link was referring to the PH thread about this current case - didn't scan enough to put the names together.

The chap might have eccentric ideas about metrics however, I think it's a bit of a step to pooh-pooh him personally and suggest that his evidence from his car is also rubbish because he is.

For example, I have a friend who is a doctor and would trust them completely to diagnose me despite the fact that it is their personal wish to spend their Sunday morning discussing how man descended from Adam and Eve and something to do with an apple.

[Elroy Blue]

'Offered no evidence' is a catch all. I watched a drunk driver walk free recently after CPS 'offered no evidence'. Turns out that despite the offence being four months old, they had neglected to send disclosure to the defence and they withdrew the case.
Very frustrating as an Officer, but the CPS have suffered the same as the Police. It'll only get worse

[Davidonly]

Breadvan72 said:

The use of the word "folk" is often if not invariably a FOTL wibblist alert flag. Won't someone think of the homeless puppies!

The single Mags case reported tells us little about which devices are accurate and which are not. The CPS might have lost the file, or not had someone available to run the case or whatevs (the CPS currently operate on an annual budget of a quid. The police get the other 50p, or is it the other way around?).

Anyway, you ent seen me, roight?

WTF?

I can't work out what this post means. 'Folk' means people (if that's aimed at me). Also known as citizens and taxpayers. LIDAR has many documented potential flaws, some of which are tackled (or so they say) in the software that runs the devices. Of course never in the history of ICT has there been a flaw in software corrections, never was it valid to question in-silicon modelling. Technology is always executed in a flawless manner. Oh and never has any system used to gather evidence been challenged and found wanting before... !

[defblade]

Is there not a good chance the case was dropped so that the "perfection" of the guns remains unquestioned in court? I'm guessing that proving them fallible even once would open the floodgates...?

[un1corn]

Looks like the CPS put this case in the "too hard to do box" and just binned it, rather than finding fault with the device.

[Davidonly]

defblade said:

Is there not a good chance the case was dropped so that the "perfection" of the guns remains unquestioned in court? I'm guessing that proving them fallible even once would open the floodgates...?

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