AUDI SQ5 Dash cam footage Dangerous overtake Somerset

AUDI SQ5 Dash cam footage Dangerous overtake Somerset

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Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Admittedly I was carrying to much speed on the approach to the fiesta but I didn't make the audi do what he did and I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi I was accelerating from the lights consistently.

The audi overtook another 5 car like that
Glass houses, stones, etc. You need to look at your own driving as well.

Especially "I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi"

His was shocking.
Yours was very poor.

To be honest, if your saw it from a 3rd party, it might even look like you were racing him?

Edited by Vaud on Saturday 3rd October 21:14

BrownBottle

1,370 posts

136 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Admittedly I was carrying to much speed on the approach to the fiesta but I didn't make the audi do what he did and I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi I was accelerating from the lights consistently.

The audi overtook another 5 car like that
Glad we've cleared that up.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Admittedly I was carrying to much speed on the approach to the fiesta but I didn't make the audi do what he did and I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi I was accelerating from the lights consistently.

The audi overtook another 5 car like that


Watch that video back closely and do your best to see what most people will see.

You pull away at a reasonable rate, not particularly quickly, then after quite a few seconds you're barely gaining ground on the Fiesta if at all. Then suddenly you start catching fast as the Audi is coming through.

You accelerated knowing the Audi was coming. You arrived way too quickly to the back of the Fiesta and braked later than normal people would.

The reason you accelerated hard and braked late was that Audi. You weren't going fast until the Audi made a move.

I highly doubt any experienced driver would say otherwise.

Really bad driving by the Audi, but you played your part.

Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 3rd October 21:16


Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 3rd October 21:17

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Vaud said:
Glass houses, stones, etc. You need to look at your own driving as well.

His was shocking.
Yours was very poor.

HTH.
What was very poor.

at no point did a straddle the middle of the road with oncomings forcing them to take evasive action, I didn't keep my foot down when the audi came along side i braked to try and stop him having a head on. i am only guilty of trying to making progress.

Vaud

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Driver101 said:
I highly doubt any experienced driver would say otherwise.
Generous, but I concur.

OP - take this the right way, but consider some driver coaching (even F1 drivers have it) - just an hour or two out in your car with some coaching from an ex-Police advanced driver.

It certainly helped me as I'd fallen into all sorts of bad habits. The ex-Police guy wasn't against making (quite rapid) progress, but it was time, place and critically based on good observation and awareness of what was happening around me.

Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
What was very poor.

at no point did a straddle the middle of the road with oncomings forcing them to take evasive action, I didn't keep my foot down when the audi came along side i braked to try and stop him having a head on. i am only guilty of trying to making progress.
Accelerating hard in a built up (ish) area, with nothing to gain. You admitted to trying to close the Audi out - "I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi"

I'm not defending his driving. I'm saying you might have chosen a moment much earlier to be defensive rather than aggressive.

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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anonymous said:
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Whether I was driving slowly or as quick as the clip the audi was on a mission carried on doing that.

He kept on overtaking like that just look at him pull away.

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Vaud said:
Accelerating hard in a built up (ish) area, with nothing to gain. You admitted to trying to close the Audi out - "I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi"

I'm not defending his driving. I'm saying you might have chosen a moment much earlier to be defensive rather than aggressive.
Should read DIDNT i was accelerating consistently, no stamping,

Point taken I wasn't text book but i was trying to kill anyone. I didn't try to stop him soon as he came offside I broke.

I don't normally but had been held up for some time when I had some open road decided to make progress the audi came into the scene like his pants were on fire.

Vaud

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155 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Should read DIDNT i was accelerating consistently.

I don't normally but had been held up for some time when I had some open road decided to make progress the audi came into the scene like his pants were on fire.
The dash cam implies that you were booting it pretty hard in the second phase and you admit to trying to block the Audi. As I said, I agree that his driving was appalling.

You need to look at yours. We all perceive our driving to be different than it is, that's life. Take a pause, sleep on it and watch it back in a few days.

You will probably think "I could have done that differently".

BrownBottle

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136 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Should read DIDNT i was accelerating consistently, no stamping

Point taken I wasn't text book but i was trying to kill anyone. I didn't try to stop him soon as he came offside I broke.

I don't normally but had been held up for some time when I had some open road decided to make progress the audi came into the scene like his pants were on fire.
The video quite clearly shows you easing off then accelerating hard when the Audi goes to overtake.

Vaud

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155 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
...when I had some open road .
What "open road"? A short section of 2 lanes rapidly merging into 1?

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Vaud said:
The dash cam implies that you were booting it pretty hard in the second phase and you admit to trying to block the Audi. As I said, I agree that his driving was appalling.

You need to look at yours. We all perceive our driving to be different than it is, that's life. Take a pause, sleep on it and watch it back in a few days.

You will probably think "I could have done that differently".
the fiesta slowed down as it was turning off thats why there appears to be a sudden gain.

i wouldn't of bothered accelerating like that if i was to do it again but the audi wasn't behind me at the lights, so didn't form part of my plan.

jbsportstech

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BrownBottle said:
The video quite clearly shows you easing off then accelerating hard when the Audi goes to overtake.
No it shows me suddenly gain on the fiesta as he had slowed ready to turn off.

My mio cam would prove this as it has speed were as the transcend doesn't.

When the audi pokes his nose past me i BRAKE

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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The Audi driver was clearly dangerous. The OP was closing on the fiesta, but was doing so beforehand - you can overtake and expect a gap that's closing to be reopened for you. I wouldn't have posted the footage here though.

Driver101

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121 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Vaud said:
Accelerating hard in a built up (ish) area, with nothing to gain. You admitted to trying to close the Audi out - "I did stamp on the throttle to stop the audi"

I'm not defending his driving. I'm saying you might have chosen a moment much earlier to be defensive rather than aggressive.
Should read DIDNT i was accelerating consistently, no stamping,

Point taken I wasn't text book but i was trying to kill anyone. I didn't try to stop him soon as he came offside I broke.

I don't normally but had been held up for some time when I had some open road decided to make progress the audi came into the scene like his pants were on fire.
The Audi went to pass you and you booted it leaving him on the outside when the lane ended.

Maybe you didn't set out to kill someone, but you left the Audi in a situation where he could.

If you had driven at your own speed, he would have been an idiot for pushing a pass for nothing.

You joined in and made the incident greater than it was.

If that Audi did end up hitting something and causing an accident, I'd bet you'd get charged too.

Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
the fiesta slowed down as it was turning off thats why there appears to be a sudden gain.

i wouldn't of bothered accelerating like that if i was to do it again but the audi wasn't behind me at the lights, so didn't form part of my plan.
No, there WAS A SUDDEN GAIN. he slowed down.

OK, so a valuable lesson in why defensive driving can be very important in built up areas?

You seem to be trying to absolve yourself from any errors of judgement.

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Driver101 said:
The Audi went to pass you and you booted it leaving him on the outside when the lane ended.

Maybe you didn't set out to kill someone, but you left the Audi in a situation where he could.

If you had driven at your own speed, he would have been an idiot for pushing a pass for nothing.

You joined in and made the incident greater than it was.

If that Audi did end up hitting something and causing an accident, I'd bet you'd get charged too.
I will hand the footage to local plod and awaits my fate then rather than being judged on here.

jbsportstech

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Vaud said:
No, there WAS A SUDDEN GAIN. he slowed down.

OK, so a valuable lesson in why defensive driving can be very important in built up areas?

You seem to be trying to absolve yourself from any errors of judgement.
No speeding up that much was an error in my judgement accepted butI never did it to stop the audi he decided late to go on overtake,

Vaud

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Saturday 3rd October 2015
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jbsportstech said:
I will hand the footage to local plod and awaits my fate then rather than being judged on here.
Quit the histrionics?

We agree the Audi was driving badly but you seem incapable of self critique.

rallycross

12,791 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Appalling driving by Audi.
Dash cams should be banned if it causes people to drive differently ( self righteous kings of the road).