AUDI SQ5 Dash cam footage Dangerous overtake Somerset
Discussion
Funkycoldribena said:
johnfm said:
Cheers buddy.
I'd post a bit more but I'm currently on hold to a number of UK villages that have reported missing idiots. I am directing them to this thread...
Go back through the thread and look at all your posts.Nearly every one is slagging someone off,maybe you should be looking closer to home for the idiot.I'd post a bit more but I'm currently on hold to a number of UK villages that have reported missing idiots. I am directing them to this thread...
(1) the Audi driver has a right to drive dangerously without interference from drivers with dashcams; and/or
(2) cited "evidence" that didn't exist in the video to suggest the OP had caused the Audi driver to drive like a knob.
I pointed out these buffoons. You may have been one of them (I cannot be arsed to check through the thread to determine your position).
Assuming we agree that my posts were insulting to these buffoons, you seem to be conflating being "insulting" with being "idiotic".
Just so I know, were you one of the buffoons making up "evidence" and suggesting the OP is a "grass" and the actions of the Audi driver are none of our business and nobody died so no harm, no foul?
johnfm said:
BrownBottle said:
johnfm said:
BrownBottle said:
I'm going out at the weekend I'll try and see if I can get some footage of guys doing coke in the bogs. After I leave I'll check up the back alleys see if I can film any prosies in action, that should keep the authorities busy for a while.
That would be a brilliant analogy, if it wasn't so far off the mark as to be clearly written by a 12 year old in a remedial class.In your 'brilliant' analogy there is no risk of harm to bystanders. Coke users endanger only themselves and 'prosies' (I assume you mean prostitutes) don't present a danger to anybody.
In this case, the Audi driver came very close to causing OTHERS harm and, if left to drive like this unchecked, will in all likelihood do so.
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/cocaine/eff...
Top result on google, knock yourself out you ignorant t
t.I find it a bit rich being called a 12 year old by someone who flounced earlier in the thread like a big baby
I think I overestimated your reading age.
Your analogy was piss poor. Deal with it.
However... that wasn't really the main point to my post I thought it would be obvious it was made tongue in cheek, the point being if everyone decides to start down this road of vigilante camera warrior where does it end?
Anyway please continue to carry on in your role as the threads 'Billy big b
ks' that you seem to revel in so much, it tells me all I need to know.BrownBottle said:
johnfm said:
BrownBottle said:
johnfm said:
BrownBottle said:
I'm going out at the weekend I'll try and see if I can get some footage of guys doing coke in the bogs. After I leave I'll check up the back alleys see if I can film any prosies in action, that should keep the authorities busy for a while.
That would be a brilliant analogy, if it wasn't so far off the mark as to be clearly written by a 12 year old in a remedial class.In your 'brilliant' analogy there is no risk of harm to bystanders. Coke users endanger only themselves and 'prosies' (I assume you mean prostitutes) don't present a danger to anybody.
In this case, the Audi driver came very close to causing OTHERS harm and, if left to drive like this unchecked, will in all likelihood do so.
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/cocaine/eff...
Top result on google, knock yourself out you ignorant t
t.I find it a bit rich being called a 12 year old by someone who flounced earlier in the thread like a big baby
I think I overestimated your reading age.
Your analogy was piss poor. Deal with it.
However... that wasn't really the main point to my post I thought it would be obvious it was made tongue in cheek, the point being if everyone decides to start down this road of vigilante camera warrior where does it end?
Anyway please continue to carry on in your role as the threads 'Billy big b
ks' that you seem to revel in so much, it tells me all I need to know.I suppose the answer to that (where does it end?) might be fewer knobheads on the road driving like Mr Audi, which is a good thing for most other road users.
If you want to drive like a pretend racing driver, surely it is better for all road users for you (not 'you' personally, I mean the generic "you" in this context) to either do so on an empty road somewhere (where there will be no third parties to harm and no 'vigilante camera Warriors' to film you driving like a knobhead).
If you don't drive like a total weapon on wheels you have nothing at all to be worried about by the incoming proliferation of dash cameras.**
- For the avoidance of doubt, and in the interest of full disclosure I do not:
(2) drive like a pretend racing driver risking harm to others on public roads.
johnfm said:
If you don't drive like a total weapon on wheels you have nothing at all to be worried about by the incoming proliferation of dash cameras.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argumentActually, I think you do. Plenty, plenty examples on the 'net of drivers making small errors (or maybe, no error at all) and being 'named and shamed' on youtube by dashcammers eager to show off their toy. That shouldn't happen.
(And yes, SQ5 driver is a cock and likely needs removing from the roads)
Wiki 'nothing to hide argument' goes against the Wiki slippery slope fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
You know those "40-50 everywhere" tts that speed through villages then get all pissed off and flashy when you overtake them? They honestly think they are right and PHer types are wrong.
If dashcams are more prevalent, then everyone would have to consider the extra risk on every overtake - go over 60 and 45 mile an hour man might well report you for speeding. Stay under it, and they might well speed up / close the gap like typical passive aggressive dashcam heroes. Do you minimimse your time exposed to danger, or minimise the risk of dash cam policeman?
The result? More frustrating queues of cars making little progress, driven to that end by the lowest common denominator. The most frustrating thing is that Russian dashcam carnage videos excepted, 90% of dash cam uploads I've seen contain a strong element of muppetry from the driver / cyclist that strapped a camera to their vehicle that morning with one eye on uploading a youtube video to prove that everyone else is a dick. The reality is that if these camera warriors looked in a mirror at their behaviour, and sorted their road positioning out, they'd have nothing to upload to youtube.
ts that speed through villages then get all pissed off and flashy when you overtake them? They honestly think they are right and PHer types are wrong. If dashcams are more prevalent, then everyone would have to consider the extra risk on every overtake - go over 60 and 45 mile an hour man might well report you for speeding. Stay under it, and they might well speed up / close the gap like typical passive aggressive dashcam heroes. Do you minimimse your time exposed to danger, or minimise the risk of dash cam policeman?
The result? More frustrating queues of cars making little progress, driven to that end by the lowest common denominator. The most frustrating thing is that Russian dashcam carnage videos excepted, 90% of dash cam uploads I've seen contain a strong element of muppetry from the driver / cyclist that strapped a camera to their vehicle that morning with one eye on uploading a youtube video to prove that everyone else is a dick. The reality is that if these camera warriors looked in a mirror at their behaviour, and sorted their road positioning out, they'd have nothing to upload to youtube.
In my opinion, any driving that is bad enough to look dangerous on a video from someone else's dash cam is dangerous enough to justify action being taken against the driver.
I keep meaning to look for a dash cam for my car. In the past few months, I've had to avoid a car driving the wrong way around a roundabout and another going the wrong side of a junction divider (had to brake hard to avoid a head on collision). People who drive like that need removing from the roads before they kill someone.
Despite the claims from the tin-foil hat wearers, nobody is going to be incriminated from footage of them going a bit over the limit during an overtake.
I keep meaning to look for a dash cam for my car. In the past few months, I've had to avoid a car driving the wrong way around a roundabout and another going the wrong side of a junction divider (had to brake hard to avoid a head on collision). People who drive like that need removing from the roads before they kill someone.
Despite the claims from the tin-foil hat wearers, nobody is going to be incriminated from footage of them going a bit over the limit during an overtake.
Edited by Garybee on Saturday 17th October 11:47
Funny you should say that. A lot of the dash cam footage I see involves incidents caused by the cam vehicle.
You do see some terribly bad driving that makes you feel sorry for the cam vehicle. However, you also see the other side of things where if the cam vehicle had backed off, let someone in, not sped up as someone pulls out of a junction etc, there wouldn't be such an event
There are a lot of people on here who label cyclists with cams as militant. Yet some drivers are just as bad.
I see idiocy on the roads every day. We all do. Some people just like to take it to another level and try to show the world just how special their incident was. There is a place for dash cams, but I do wish some people who have them would stop trying to take the moral high ground.
You do see some terribly bad driving that makes you feel sorry for the cam vehicle. However, you also see the other side of things where if the cam vehicle had backed off, let someone in, not sped up as someone pulls out of a junction etc, there wouldn't be such an event
There are a lot of people on here who label cyclists with cams as militant. Yet some drivers are just as bad.
I see idiocy on the roads every day. We all do. Some people just like to take it to another level and try to show the world just how special their incident was. There is a place for dash cams, but I do wish some people who have them would stop trying to take the moral high ground.
silentbrown said:
johnfm said:
If you don't drive like a total weapon on wheels you have nothing at all to be worried about by the incoming proliferation of dash cameras.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argumentActually, I think you do. Plenty, plenty examples on the 'net of drivers making small errors (or maybe, no error at all) and being 'named and shamed' on youtube by dashcammers eager to show off their toy. That shouldn't happen.
(And yes, SQ5 driver is a cock and likely needs removing from the roads)
I'd distinguish the present discussion by pointing out that dashcams are used by individuals primarily in order to protect themselves from others in the event that they suffer some damage as a result of the actions of others. Given they also record he actions of the owner, they are a pretty useful way of curbing the daftness of both the owners of the dashcams and of others.
I could imagine your "nothing to hide argument" reference might be valid at the point where government attempts to mandate that all cars must have them and all footage becomes the property of the state. I don't think that is the case (yet).
Garybee said:
nobody is going to be incriminated from footage of them going a bit over the limit during an overtake.
You know this for a fact do you? I've noticed there are more and more people who simply don't like being overtaken nowadays (headlights get flashed just because you might want to go faster than them) and the more prevalent dash cams become the more likely it is people like that will be offering their video as evidence of speeding to plod; whether they prosecute is another matter but surely the chances of drivers trying to do the equivalent of a citizens arrest on someone who's overtaken them must be likely to increase? Edited by Garybee on Saturday 17th October 11:47
JNW1 said:
You know this for a fact do you? I've noticed there are more and more people who simply don't like being overtaken nowadays (headlights get flashed just because you might want to go faster than them) and the more prevalent dash cams become the more likely it is people like that will be offering their video as evidence of speeding to plod; whether they prosecute is another matter but surely the chances of drivers trying to do the equivalent of a citizens arrest on someone who's overtaken them must be likely to increase?
Had a mono speeder mk1 freelander last Sunday mixture of limits.In 30 off roundabout opens to national not for long gets up to 40 maybe he knows the road and the limit coming up (40)Hit the 40 and stays at that till a car in front turns off causing him to slow. Then boots it's to 50 plus and pulls away. I stay at 40 as know the section is plagued with bad junctions and a lot of accidents. Then opens up to nsl so accelerate 60mph, crest a hill and the freelander is only going 45 so have to ease back. Closing on him and see passengers heads spin to look at this mad man behind who dares to do 60 in nsl.
Next roundabout he slows down hard and late to a stop when nice view and roundabout is clear and then two lanes NSL ahead. I take Lane 2 and pass and he gives me funny looks and flashes his lights once in front. I am going 60 and he is mono speeder who knows better.
Edited by jbsportstech on Monday 19th October 08:21
jbsportstech said:
Had a mono speeder mk1 freelancer last Sunday mixture of limits.
In 30 off rouabout opens to national not for long gets up to 40. Next limit is 40 and stays at that till a car in front turns off causing him to slow. Then boots it's to 50 plus and pulls away. I stay at 40 as know the section is plagued with bad junctions and a lot of accidents. Then opens up to national get up to 60 crest a hill and my freelancer is going 45. Closing on him and see passengers heads spin to look at this mad man behind who dares to do 60 in nsl. Next round out slows down to stop when nice view and clear and then two lanes into further national. I take Lane to pass and he gives me funny looks and flashes his lights. I am going 60 and he is mono speeder.
Sounds dangerous.I'd hand the footage into the police.In 30 off rouabout opens to national not for long gets up to 40. Next limit is 40 and stays at that till a car in front turns off causing him to slow. Then boots it's to 50 plus and pulls away. I stay at 40 as know the section is plagued with bad junctions and a lot of accidents. Then opens up to national get up to 60 crest a hill and my freelancer is going 45. Closing on him and see passengers heads spin to look at this mad man behind who dares to do 60 in nsl. Next round out slows down to stop when nice view and clear and then two lanes into further national. I take Lane to pass and he gives me funny looks and flashes his lights. I am going 60 and he is mono speeder.
jbsportstech said:
Had a mono speeder mk1 freelancer last Sunday mixture of limits.
In 30 off rouabout opens to national not for long gets up to 40. Next limit is 40 and stays at that till a car in front turns off causing him to slow. Then boots it's to 50 plus and pulls away. I stay at 40 as know the section is plagued with bad junctions and a lot of accidents. Then opens up to national get up to 60 crest a hill and my freelancer is going 45. Closing on him and see passengers heads spin to look at this mad man behind who dares to do 60 in nsl. Next round out slows down to stop when nice view and clear and then two lanes into further national. I take Lane to pass and he gives me funny looks and flashes his lights. I am going 60 and he is mono speeder.
I'm lost...do you do drugs? In 30 off rouabout opens to national not for long gets up to 40. Next limit is 40 and stays at that till a car in front turns off causing him to slow. Then boots it's to 50 plus and pulls away. I stay at 40 as know the section is plagued with bad junctions and a lot of accidents. Then opens up to national get up to 60 crest a hill and my freelancer is going 45. Closing on him and see passengers heads spin to look at this mad man behind who dares to do 60 in nsl. Next round out slows down to stop when nice view and clear and then two lanes into further national. I take Lane to pass and he gives me funny looks and flashes his lights. I am going 60 and he is mono speeder.
Funkycoldribena said:
Sounds dangerous.I'd hand the footage into the police.
The mentality of some people on here is questionable.Don't report every minor thing to the police even the I had the cam on. Had a woman on her phone swerving in a 30mph didn't report he. The audi was the first driver I reported.
What I was saying is there are those who have a speed threshold but still speed in lower limit urban areas 40/50 everywhere mono speeders. Then when you overtake them in NSL they flash at you.
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff