Dog attacked by another dog - advice please

[eatcustard]

Autopilot said:

In a seminar I attended recently, Terriers got a special mention. They are the only type of dog with absolutely zero self
Preservation gene. Other dogs know when it's time to give up as it can't sustain anymore damage and won't survive and should probably back down and run off.

A Terrier lacks this and won't back down!!

Sorry, you are wrong

I had a Russel attack my last Bull terrier, after he got bit, he ran off (limped off) very quick.

[shandyboy]

gruffalo said:

The Staffie, also known as the nanny dog because of their caring nature around children and desire to protect the younger members of the pack.

Wanted to second this. I'm not a dog owner but next door neighbour had a Staffie that was built like the proverbial out-house, and would occasionally escape if it saw us getting into the car to attack us... with big slobbery kisses.

Daughter has a staffie which is also the softest dog in the world and she gets annoyed at people crossing the road when they see them walking it, even though it's invariably her dog that's been attacked by other people's dogs off lead - terriers and labrador been the worst.

There will be bad examples but that's down to the owner, not the dog.

[Stevie_P]

shandyboy said:

Wanted to second this. I'm not a dog owner but next door neighbour had a Staffie that was built like the proverbial out-house, and would occasionally escape if it saw us getting into the car to attack us... with big slobbery kisses.

Daughter has a staffie which is also the softest dog in the world and she gets annoyed at people crossing the road when they see them walking it, even though it's invariably her dog that's been attacked by other people's dogs off lead - terriers and labrador been the worst.

There will be bad examples but that's down to the owner, not the dog.

Can only echo this really.
Brother and his other half at the time had a staffie.
Looked really scary but it was the softest dog I'd ever seen.
Really friendly and would lick you to death.

Don't judge a book by its cover...

[Fugazi]

Autopilot said:

In a seminar I attended recently, Terriers got a special mention. They are the only type of dog with absolutely zero self
Preservation gene. Other dogs know when it's time to give up as it can't sustain anymore damage and won't survive and should probably back down and run off.

A Terrier lacks this and won't back down!!

Mine is exactly like this.... Unless you are armed with any of the following:
Hoover
Sponge
Mirror
Stick
Spray bottle
Water pistol
Hairdryer
Torch
Camera
Newspaper
...at which point she'll bravely turn tail and run away. Logic never works with dogs as she will quite happily park her bum in a freezing, muddy puddle on the beach at low tide but try and get her into a warm bath and it's as if you're trying to murder her. Dog's eh.

But back on topic, I have noticed that the local chav element has begun to move away from bull breeds and towards Huskies and Malamutes. But I'm not sure what, if anything can be done. If they can't manage giving their own children a good diet and stable environment, what chance does a dog have?

[ali_kat]

BullyB on Page 1 said:

Staffies scare the st out of me, where we live they are really common and we don't even use the park that is 30 meters away from the house anymore due to their aggressive nature. just not worth the risk.

Hope all works out ok for the OP

BullyB on post 4 of Page 2 said:

Greendubber said:

BullyB said:

forgot for a minute I was on PistonHeads, I retract my comment.

So you cant set foot in a park because its so overun with aggresive staffies?

Really?.....right, OK.

really?

never said I can't set foot in the park.
never said it was overun with Staffies
the worry/concern is for my dogs, not me
the thought of a dog attacking mine scares the st out of me
i'm not afraid of the dark

now, run along and see if you can try to be grown up enough to resist another pointless attempt at trolling

BullyB on post 5 of Page 2 said:

imagineifyeswill said:

Thats absolute nonsense, far more attacks on dogs and people are by Jack Russells, Staffies by nature are the most docile affectionate litte dogs you could ever hope for, its bad owners not bad dogs.

this ^^

Only one troll here

[moorx]

Fugazi said:

But back on topic, I have noticed that the local chav element has begun to move away from bull breeds and towards Huskies and Malamutes. But I'm not sure what, if anything can be done. If they can't manage giving their own children a good diet and stable environment, what chance does a dog have?

I suspect that nothing can be done. Years ago, the dogs of choice for this type of person were GSDs, Dobermans and Rotties. Then Staffies and American Bulldogs. Now it may be as you say Huskies and Malamutes.

The only common factor is totally inappropriate dog-ownership, and the fact that innocent dogs and people suffer.

[otolith]

Huskies and malamutes. Great, so the dheads are moving onto dogs which often need their prey drive and dog aggression to be correctly managed and need lots of exercise. What could possibly go wrong?

[moorx]

otolith said:

Huskies and malamutes. Great, so the dheads are moving onto dogs which often need their prey drive and dog aggression to be correctly managed and need lots of exercise. What could possibly go wrong?

100%. But it looks like a wolf, mate.

[otolith]

I think they should all be neutered, muzzled and restrained in public places. And also they shouldn't be allowed to have dogs.

[ali_kat]

otolith said:

I think they should all be neutered, muzzled and restrained in public places. And also they shouldn't be allowed to have dogs.

Agreed

[Autopilot]

eatcustard said:

Autopilot said:

In a seminar I attended recently, Terriers got a special mention. They are the only type of dog with absolutely zero self
Preservation gene. Other dogs know when it's time to give up as it can't sustain anymore damage and won't survive and should probably back down and run off.

A Terrier lacks this and won't back down!!

Sorry, you are wrong

I had a Russel attack my last Bull terrier, after he got bit, he ran off (limped off) very quick.

My neighbours Lurcher has never chased a rabbit in its life, it has absolutely no prey drive at all. If anybody here was thinking of getting a lurcher, you don't need to worry about letting it off the lead in a field if there are rabbits in clear view, it won't chase them.

I'm obviously being facetious, but you get my point. Not every dog will display every typical trait of the breed nor in the same quantities. Not my words, but.....

Terriers do not refrain from closing in of space to make contact with prey. Their strong prey drive is very aggression based. This unique combination provides them with its innate fighting ability. The terriers’ response to a stimulus is to chase, pounce, bite, kill and dissect. Remember, the terrier was purposely bred to have killing-dissecting needs because of their specialisation to rid areas of vermin. They needed to possess a fearlessness required to fight for long periods without great regard for self preservation. The terriers’ unique quality is that it does not honour nature’s reason for providing animals with aggression. Remember, aggression is a survival instinct for self preservation. Duration in fighting is not a way to sustain life. When two rivals fight, a purely defensive state will shortly develop in one, which will bring about a flight response and the fight quickly ends. However, in the terrier, their unnatural response of longevity to fight is due to an exaggeration in levels of prey and aggression/defence. The terrier has historically been praised for its disregard for self preservation. No other group possesses this ability. The tenacity of this group is legendary. Like the mastiff, they were to work without the influence of man.

[darkyoung1000]

Dear all,

Thanks for your assistance so far - just an update.

The nephew has proved himself to be an upstanding citizen, chasing his aunt and obtaining half the of the vet's bill for us.

It turns out from further conversations with people, the Aunt is a relatively unsavoury character with time spend behind bars for physical violence (allegedly glassing).

The dog sounds like an unwanted burden, and has been moved across town to someone else to look after (a great shame - it sounds like it could do with more training and a better owner). Perhaps the warden will take care of this.

Cheers,
Tom

[vxr8mate]

eldar said:

balls-out said:

Probably true (I don't know). but I would rather be attacked by a Jack Russell that a Staffy any day

Having been attacked by a Jack Russell, I'd disagree. They are completely mental in attack mode and immune to pain.

Seriously? I'd take my chances against a little terrier any day of the week, but a mental staffy may have me climbing a tree.