Caught speeding in Dunkerque, license taken away....

Caught speeding in Dunkerque, license taken away....

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Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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cmaguire said:
Pretty much my thoughts, the road looks like a 60mph road so 90 would be a bit naughty but not much else.
The only "60mph" roads in France are dual carriageways where a lower limit is posted (they are otherwise 110kph or 130kph). The speed limit on 2 lane roads is 90kph. The stretch the OP posted on Google Maps has 50kph signs on either side of the road at both ends of that stretch, so it should not have been a surprise that 3 times that speed would land him in bother. Doing that in the UK would likely lead to a ban and a very hefty fine.

paulmakin

665 posts

142 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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I'v just realised that if i click on the street-view thingy the road moves as if i'm driving along it.

i do confess to a dodgy overtake of the tanker but squeezed back in OK

paul

Jarcy

1,559 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Bluebarge said:
How is it possible to not offer retrospective advice when (a) the OP has asked for such advice and (b) none of us possess a time machine?
I meant, don't tell him 'not to speed', when that's what he's already done.

Bluebarge said:
P.S. that "Mumsnet" argument is getting a bit tired - if you measure your manhood by how badly you can drive on public roads, you obviously don't understand what being a man is about.
I won't get drawn into this one smile


Bluebarge said:
P.P.S. put not your faith in American spell-checkers, pay more attention at school.
Indeed I do applaud the efforts of the Grammar Police, especially with reference to our American cousins, but even so my education was not extensive enough to be sure as to whether I should sympathize or sympathise. I think both are OK... The noun / verb distinction within our language is somewhat more clear-cut, but I merely wanted to sympathize with those that get it wrong when the tools there to help us also get it wrong.

bad company

18,697 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Jarcy said:
Sometimes I think I'd reading Mumsnet and not Pistonheads.
Any true PH fan, who has petrol running through his veins, would sympathize.
Any true PH fan, upon looking at that stretch of open deserted road, would say in all honesty, "yeap, late for ferry, I'd have done 90".
Please stop being sanctimonious to anyone who asks for advice. Please don't offer retrospective advice.
The deed is done. The Op fessed up. All he wants to know is what will happen regarding his licence. (BTW 'licence' comes up as misspelt on the PH edit window, where as 'license' doesn't)
Well said that man. thumbup

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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rsv gone! said:
Ekona said:
I got caught doing 171 in a 110 in France a few years back. Licence confiscated on the spot. 750EU fine.

Got home.

Applied for new licence.

Got new licence a week later.

Old licence arrived from France a couple of days after that.

Letter from French courts arrived a few months later, telling me I was banned for three months.

Another letter arrived 6 months after initial incident, asking for another 750EU. Their error, I did reply and then heard nothing more.


So there you go. You're very lucky they let you keep the car, normally anything 50kmh over the limit and they'll seize that too. Apply for a new licence anyway, and then just wait to see what ban the courts slap you with. They may well increase the fine as well, they're perfectly entitled to do so: In my case, they hadn't taken into account the initial 750EU on the spot, which acts as a deposit for the final amount.
+1

I was doing 167 in a 90 but otherwise, word for word. Even the 'error' with the fine.

OP, you were very lucky to keep your car. Anything over 70kph over the limit is where they start keeping it. I was told I was 3kph below, after 'retenue' (about 10kph taken off the reading as a correction).
+2

Stopped at a speed just a smidgen under being sent to the guillotine, licence and 750 removed, co-driver took over.

The licence arrived back about a month later, with a letter saying that the judge had agreed with roadside fine - nothing further to pay, and asked the driver not to drive in France for 2 or 3 months IIRC.

DVLA not involved, no points on licence, no real hardship beside the fine. A receipt was issued roadside, well, outside the cashpoint in the town centre. Gendarmerie chap was pleasant, polite, and no VBRJ was enforced. This is probably because the driver held his hands up, co-operated and was seen to be genuinely remorseful for what he had done (or for getting caught...)

The driver learned a valuable lesson that day too, and has kept a clean licence since.

(Allegedly...this all happened to "my mate")

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Bluebarge said:
The only "60mph" roads in France are dual carriageways where a lower limit is posted (they are otherwise 110kph or 130kph). The speed limit on 2 lane roads is 90kph. The stretch the OP posted on Google Maps has 50kph signs on either side of the road at both ends of that stretch, so it should not have been a surprise that 3 times that speed would land him in bother. Doing that in the UK would likely lead to a ban and a very hefty fine.
Somewhat pedantic, I was making an observation re. that type of road as regards a limit it would likely have here (unless you're in Suffolk or some such with its daft re-jigged limits).
The actual limit is not relevant to my point, that being that actually doing 90mph on that road is probably not going to knock the Earth off its axis and is probably only of any concern to those setting/enforcing the limits.
In summary, his offence is trivial in real terms.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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S11Steve said:
+2

Stopped at a speed just a smidgen under being sent to the guillotine, licence and 750 removed, co-driver took over.

The licence arrived back about a month later, with a letter saying that the judge had agreed with roadside fine - nothing further to pay, and asked the driver not to drive in France for 2 or 3 months IIRC.

DVLA not involved, no points on licence, no real hardship beside the fine. A receipt was issued roadside, well, outside the cashpoint in the town centre. Gendarmerie chap was pleasant, polite, and no VBRJ was enforced. This is probably because the driver held his hands up, co-operated and was seen to be genuinely remorseful for what he had done (or for getting caught...)



The driver learned a valuable lesson that day too, and has kept a clean licence since.

(Allegedly...this all happened to "my mate")
2017 is going to be a very bad year if the information sharing finally does happen.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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I love this idea that you can't be true enthusiast for motoring if you don't always choose to drive or ride at whatever speed suits you on any bit of uncrowded road and then moan a bit or at least say "it's just about money" if you get done for speeding. I must have missed that bit in the briefing when I applied to join the petrolhead club.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
I love this idea that you can't be true enthusiast for motoring if you don't always choose to drive or ride at whatever speed suits you on any bit of uncrowded road and then moan a bit or at least say "it's just about money" if you get done for speeding. I must have missed that bit in the briefing when I applied to join the petrolhead club.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Hey, good quoting skills!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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anothernameitist said:
Breadvan72 said:
I give up, I really do.
There was a bit more to my quote than what you have shown, it was meant as a flippant remark and i would hope that the OP would know that.

For clarity OP don't act on my cheeky post.

BV - with all sincerity I hoped my post in full was seen as a cheeky remark, I will try to use emotions in future or outline that the action recommended is not to be taken without consequences.

Hope my grovelling to you has worked and I am some what redeemed!!!
I can haz irony detector PHAIL!

Waiter, this chicken tastes of parrot.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Stickyfinger said:
bypass MY ARSE
Certainly will, thank you.

Davidonly

1,080 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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bad company said:
Jarcy said:
Sometimes I think I'd reading Mumsnet and not Pistonheads.
Any true PH fan, who has petrol running through his veins, would sympathize.
Any true PH fan, upon looking at that stretch of open deserted road, would say in all honesty, "yeap, late for ferry, I'd have done 90".
Please stop being sanctimonious to anyone who asks for advice. Please don't offer retrospective advice.
The deed is done. The Op fessed up. All he wants to know is what will happen regarding his licence. (BTW 'licence' comes up as misspelt on the PH edit window, where as 'license' doesn't)
Well said that man. thumbup
Couldn't agree more smile

Cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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6 pages to tell the OP that the French cannot put points on a UK licence nor can they ban a driver with a UK licence from driving in the UK or anywhere else except in France.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Certainly will, thank you.
thank god, its still sore from the visit to the zoo

agtlaw

6,728 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Cooperman said:
6 pages to tell the OP that the French cannot put points on a UK licence nor can they ban a driver with a UK licence from driving in the UK or anywhere else except in France.
and Spain, Switzerland and wherever else France has a reciprocal agreement.

dannyDC2

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Davidonly said:
bad company said:
Jarcy said:
Sometimes I think I'd reading Mumsnet and not Pistonheads.
Any true PH fan, who has petrol running through his veins, would sympathize.
Any true PH fan, upon looking at that stretch of open deserted road, would say in all honesty, "yeap, late for ferry, I'd have done 90".
Please stop being sanctimonious to anyone who asks for advice. Please don't offer retrospective advice.
The deed is done. The Op fessed up. All he wants to know is what will happen regarding his licence. (BTW 'licence' comes up as misspelt on the PH edit window, where as 'license' doesn't)
Well said that man. thumbup
Couldn't agree more smile
Thanks chaps.

Honestly, I don't often speed. My daily is a diesel A4 so I just plod along looking for MPG not MPH. Onwards and upwards...

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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cmaguire said:
Somewhat pedantic, I was making an observation re. that type of road as regards a limit it would likely have here (unless you're in Suffolk or some such with its daft re-jigged limits).
The actual limit is not relevant to my point, that being that actually doing 90mph on that road is probably not going to knock the Earth off its axis and is probably only of any concern to those setting/enforcing the limits.
In summary, his offence is trivial in real terms.
Your approach of deciding for yourself what the limit should be, rather than what it actually is, is an interesting social experiment, and I wish you luck with it. It plainly didn't work for the OP.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Bluebarge said:
cmaguire said:
Somewhat pedantic, I was making an observation re. that type of road as regards a limit it would likely have here (unless you're in Suffolk or some such with its daft re-jigged limits).
The actual limit is not relevant to my point, that being that actually doing 90mph on that road is probably not going to knock the Earth off its axis and is probably only of any concern to those setting/enforcing the limits.
In summary, his offence is trivial in real terms.
Your approach of deciding for yourself what the limit should be, rather than what it actually is, is an interesting social experiment, and I wish you luck with it. It plainly didn't work for the OP.
Must be a Freeman of the Land, wink.

dannyDC2

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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If anyone's curious, I've decided it was worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpTxGyVUJc

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