Why no PCN/Fines for driving in closed lanes on motorway?
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oyster said:
A red X means exactly what it displays. Why does it matter if the instruction overruns by a few minutes?
In what way is it logical to break the law because occasionally you see nefarious variable road instructions?
It's not logical or legal. In what way is it logical to break the law because occasionally you see nefarious variable road instructions?
On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
skodaphile said:
oyster said:
A red X means exactly what it displays. Why does it matter if the instruction overruns by a few minutes?
In what way is it logical to break the law because occasionally you see nefarious variable road instructions?
It's not logical or legal. In what way is it logical to break the law because occasionally you see nefarious variable road instructions?
On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
skodaphile said:
It's not logical or legal.
On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
Depends - Inside a red circle - compulsary Anything else - advisory (at your own risk !)On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
skodaphile said:
Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/know-your-traffic-signsRead page 89, In fact looking at many of the questions and the times they come up on PH a document similar to this should be stickied
Maybe this would help
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/traff...
skodaphile said:
It's not logical or legal.
On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
As has been pointed out subsequently the signs on the M5 are advisory only unless in a red circle, for example the ones on the nearby M42 are compulsory. However, you shouldn't need them to make a decision for you. Idiots driving at silly speeds have caused some horrendous motorway pile ups in fog, so use your own brain when it's advisory. When the speed is compulsory, still use your brain to decision if it's still too high. On a slightly different subject, fog warning matrix signs are often not switched off until literally hours after it's all gone away, accompanied by 40mph limits (I'm thinking of the M5 especially), would you slow to 40 if you saw one of these when most other traffic is travelling at 70+? Or are these signs simply 'recommendations'?
Oh no, use of a brain is optional when driving is it not? Advisory, not compulsory. 
My question was would you slow to 40 when conditions were clear but the signs had not been updated, as I was unclear if they were advisory or compulsory, so thanks for the clarification.
Obviously when it IS foggy and the signs have NOT yet been activated it doesn't mean "yay there's no 40 sign, let's pile on through at 90..."
Oh and...
My question was would you slow to 40 when conditions were clear but the signs had not been updated, as I was unclear if they were advisory or compulsory, so thanks for the clarification.
Obviously when it IS foggy and the signs have NOT yet been activated it doesn't mean "yay there's no 40 sign, let's pile on through at 90..."
Oh and...
LoonR1 said:
Idiots driving at silly speeds have caused some horrendous motorway pile ups in fog
...I assume you mean going too fast, not idiotically slow? Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff