Tattooed policemen.

[Devil2575]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Devil2575 said:

Would you avoid someone who you knew had been banned for accumulating 12 points?

If I was choosing between 2 people I didn't know to do a job, then all other things being equal, I'd pick the one without 12 points on their licence.

Who wouldn't?

That's not the same as avoiding. Also how many people do you meet who are equal in every way aside from something like a driving license?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Devil2575 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Devil2575 said:

Would you avoid someone who you knew had been banned for accumulating 12 points?

If I was choosing between 2 people I didn't know to do a job, then all other things being equal, I'd pick the one without 12 points on their licence.

Who wouldn't?

That's not the same as avoiding. Also how many people do you meet who are equal in every way aside from something like a driving license?

OK, I would avoid if his role was as a professional driver. I do not expect policemen to be tattooed. Or bank managers or accountants or lawyers. I would look down on it. I think it shows poor judgement. I would avoid them if an alternative was available without tats. I would avoid a taxi driver with 12 points, not recruit a van driver or lorry driver with 12 points. If an alternative were available without points.

I'm struggling to see the issue with this. It's a personal choice and opinion. Others are free to not take a view on tattoos.

[WinstonWolf]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Devil2575 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Devil2575 said:

Would you avoid someone who you knew had been banned for accumulating 12 points?

If I was choosing between 2 people I didn't know to do a job, then all other things being equal, I'd pick the one without 12 points on their licence.

Who wouldn't?

That's not the same as avoiding. Also how many people do you meet who are equal in every way aside from something like a driving license?

OK, I would avoid if his role was as a professional driver. I do not expect policemen to be tattooed. Or bank managers or accountants or lawyers. I would look down on it. I think it shows poor judgement. I would avoid them if an alternative was available without tats. I would avoid a taxi driver with 12 points, not recruit a van driver or lorry driver with 12 points. If an alternative were available without points.

I'm struggling to see the issue with this. It's a personal choice and opinion. Others are free to not take a view on tattoos.

bigot

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[Pete317]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

OK, I would avoid if his role was as a professional driver. I do not expect policemen to be tattooed. Or bank managers or accountants or lawyers. I would look down on it. I think it shows poor judgement. I would avoid them if an alternative was available without tats. I would avoid a taxi driver with 12 points, not recruit a van driver or lorry driver with 12 points. If an alternative were available without points.

I'm struggling to see the issue with this. It's a personal choice and opinion. Others are free to not take a view on tattoos.

I think you will probably struggle to find any professional driver of long standing who's never had at least three points on at least one occasion. Nine to twelve points might be indicative of poor judgement, but may well be down to plain bad luck.
Ok, I would probably hesitate before hiring someone with a lot of points, but that's only because of the likelihood of a ban being just around the corner - although, on the other side of the coin, a driver who needs a job is likely to be extra careful if they're close to being banned - notwithstanding plain bad luck.

Edited by Pete317 on Friday 20th November 12:46

[Devil2575]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

OK, I would avoid if his role was as a professional driver. I do not expect policemen to be tattooed. Or bank managers or accountants or lawyers. I would look down on it. I think it shows poor judgement. I would avoid them if an alternative was available without tats. I would avoid a taxi driver with 12 points, not recruit a van driver or lorry driver with 12 points. If an alternative were available without points.

I'm struggling to see the issue with this. It's a personal choice and opinion. Others are free to not take a view on tattoos.

Points have a direct link to driving. Tattoos do not have a direct link to you ability to understand finance.

It is a personal choice but i'd suggest it is a poor one.

[Pete317]

Devil2575 said:

Points have a direct link to driving.

...but not necessarily linked to ability - might simply be linked to the sheer amount of time spent on the roads, or in the 'wrong' areas

[Devil2575]

Pete317 said:

Devil2575 said:

Points have a direct link to driving.

...but not necessarily linked to ability - might simply be linked to the sheer amount of time spent on the roads, or in the 'wrong' areas

Only if you think it is difficult to drive without breaking the law. I think it's relatively easy.

[Pete317]

Devil2575 said:

Only if you think it is difficult to drive without breaking the law. I think it's relatively easy.

I think you might not find too many experienced drivers agreeing with you.
Personally, I think it's probably a bit easier than walking along a log without falling off.
It's possible, but things being as they are, why should one have to give undue attention to avoiding breaking the law, when the only reason to avoid breaking the law is to avoid breaking the law?

ETA: I think it's much easier to drive within the law than to avoid breaking the law - there's a subtle distinction there.

Edited by Pete317 on Friday 20th November 13:22

[mybrainhurts]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

HantsRat said:

What's wrong with that? Do you judge someone based on their appearance?

Yes, we all do. I wouldn't trust a financial advisor who looked like a tramp. Or a barber with a terrible haircut. I suspect if a tattoo lover walked into a tattoo parlour, and the tattooist had dreadful tattoos, they would walk out!

So off your high horse.

I concur.

Tattoos are a bloody mess. The human body is not a suitable canvas for artwork and most tattoos look nothing like art, more like a bodily deformity, unless viewed close up.

Graffiti on buildings is an offence for a reason. It's a mess and it spoils the visual environment. Same goes for tattoos.

Would you adorn the walls in your rooms with tattoo designs? Thought not.

Hrrrrmph...

[Devil2575]

mybrainhurts said:

Graffiti on buildings is an offence for a reason. It's a mess and it spoils the visual environment. Hrrrrmph...

No, graffiti is an offence because it is someone elses property.

I'm sure if you wished to paint a mural on the side of your house there is no law against it.

[herewego]

I'm pretty sure that aesthetics is not the driving force behind tattoos.

[mybrainhurts]

Devil2575 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Graffiti on buildings is an offence for a reason. It's a mess and it spoils the visual environment. Hrrrrmph...

No, graffiti is an offence because it is someone elses property.

I'm sure if you wished to paint a mural on the side of your house there is no law against it.

Doesn't take much to set you off, does it...?

[Pete317]

It's entirely your business if your opinion of someone is based on nothing more than their appearance.
However, if you discriminate against someone because of their appearance - different story altogether.

[mybrainhurts]

herewego said:

I'm pretty sure that aesthetics is not the driving force behind tattoos.

Correct, it's narcissism, but the detrimental impact is the aesthetic one.

[Rovinghawk]

Pete317 said:

It's entirely your business if your opinion of someone is based on nothing more than their appearance.
However, if you discriminate against someone because of their appearance - different story altogether.

A police friend of mine once said that stereotyping based on first appearances will help you live longer.

[mybrainhurts]

Pete317 said:

It's entirely your business if your opinion of someone is based on nothing more than their appearance.
However, if you discriminate against someone because of their appearance - different story altogether.

So they can't stop me going into the ladies' loos because I don't look like a lady?

This is going to be fun...

[Pete317]

mybrainhurts said:

So they can't stop me going into the ladies' loos because I don't look like a lady?

This is going to be fun...

Stop trying to make mischief.

Discriminating against someone is generally taken to mean considering or treating them in a manner disadvantageous to them, for some arbitrary reason.

Edited by Pete317 on Friday 20th November 15:57

[mybrainhurts]

Pete317 said:

mybrainhurts said:

So they can't stop me going into the ladies' loos because I don't look like a lady?

This is going to be fun...

Stop trying to make mischief.

Discriminating against someone is generally taken to mean considering or treating them in a manner disadvantageous to them, for some arbitrary reason.

Denying me access to the ladies seems pretty damn' arbitrary to me...

[Devil2575]

mybrainhurts said:

Devil2575 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Graffiti on buildings is an offence for a reason. It's a mess and it spoils the visual environment. Hrrrrmph...

No, graffiti is an offence because it is someone elses property.

I'm sure if you wished to paint a mural on the side of your house there is no law against it.

Doesn't take much to set you off, does it...?

On a discussion forum where we a discussing a topic, no it doesn't.

[mybrainhurts]

Devil2575 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Devil2575 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Graffiti on buildings is an offence for a reason. It's a mess and it spoils the visual environment. Hrrrrmph...

No, graffiti is an offence because it is someone elses property.

I'm sure if you wished to paint a mural on the side of your house there is no law against it.

Doesn't take much to set you off, does it...?

On a discussion forum where we a discussing a topic, no it doesn't.

Away with you, and enough of this mental torment, or I'll have to get a tattoo to take my mind off it...