Your views on letter from School Governor
Discussion
sim72 said:
I'd suggest that you would feel differently if someone had called your professional competence into question in public. The place for "voicing opinions" about a teacher (or for that matter anyone else) is to their employer. Posting it on social media is typical of the sense of entitlement that many people have these days to criticise others without thinking of the consequences.
And if you have voiced your opinions to the employer and nothing has been done then what ?How does telling a few friends ( which is all the OH thought she was doing ) without naming the teacher become a "legal" matter for the COG ?
sim72 said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
How does telling a few friends ( which is all the OH thought she was doing ) without naming the teacher become a "legal" matter for the COG ?
Ah, yes, the idea that posting things on Facebook is "telling a few friends". 
JustinP1 said:
I don't want to step on the OP's toes, but in an effort to get the thread back on track, his issues are these:
1) Has his other half in fact committed said offences?
2) Are the actions of the Chair of Governors right and proper?
1} No idea but I wish someone with legal training would answer it.1) Has his other half in fact committed said offences?
2) Are the actions of the Chair of Governors right and proper?
2} IMO the letter was a bit over the top, an invitation to come into the school to discuss the situation would probably have caused less bother.
sim72 said:
I'd suggest that you would feel differently if someone had called your professional competence into question in public. The place for "voicing opinions" about a teacher (or for that matter anyone else) is to their employer. Posting it on social media is typical of the sense of entitlement that many people have these days to criticise others without thinking of the consequences.
It wouldn't worry me to be honest. I would likely contact them to ascertain their issues in greater detail and endeavour to rectify them.I certainly would not get my employer to post them a threatening and bullying letter in an effort to silence them.
pinchmeimdreamin said:
sim72 said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
How does telling a few friends ( which is all the OH thought she was doing ) without naming the teacher become a "legal" matter for the COG ?
Ah, yes, the idea that posting things on Facebook is "telling a few friends". If I was the COG, I would have posted a message on social media (most schools have them these days) pointing out that it was a poor idea to do that, and left it there.
All that jazz said:
We're not being furnished with the whole story here. In order for the school to say to the wife that they are very unhappy about the comments made about <insert teacher name> then the OP OH must have named them. It's another classic PH case of only being provided with the details to make everyone agree with them.
She didn't need to name them. I'm pretty sure the school can work out who the student's teacher/Tutor for last year was. You don't even know if this is Primary or Secondary school. In Primary School they would only have 1 teacher throughout the year. Secondary school, again you have a form Tutor based on which form you are in.JustinP1 said:
I see the Speed, Plod and the Law modus operandi is strong in this thread.
OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
This...OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
It's the reason I hardly ever venture into SP&L any more. I've posted perfectly normal problems on here in the past, requesting the assistance of the forum community in clarifying my legal rights, for which in and amongst the excellent advice and wise counsel offered, I have been attacked and generally abused by an unpleasant minority.
In my view - and I don't honestly care if these people deem my comments as harassment, as per the letter from the school to the OP - they are pointless spiteful know-nothings whose only contribution is to snipe from the sidelines, spoiling it for the majority.
C Lee Farquar said:
The reason I started the thread is because I would welcome thoughts on the content of the Governor's letter. I felt the tone and content was incompatible with the role of a school Governor and if the school had an issue then the Head should have raised the issue first.
I think most of us agree with you. I would ignore the letter and leave the Facebook content as is.Corpulent Tosser said:
JustinP1 said:
I don't want to step on the OP's toes, but in an effort to get the thread back on track, his issues are these:
1) Has his other half in fact committed said offences?
2) Are the actions of the Chair of Governors right and proper?
1} No idea but I wish someone with legal training would answer it.1) Has his other half in fact committed said offences?
2) Are the actions of the Chair of Governors right and proper?
2} IMO the letter was a bit over the top, an invitation to come into the school to discuss the situation would probably have caused less bother.
Andy Zarse said:
JustinP1 said:
I see the Speed, Plod and the Law modus operandi is strong in this thread.
OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
This...OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
It's the reason I hardly ever venture into SP&L any more. I've posted perfectly normal problems on here in the past, requesting the assistance of the forum community in clarifying my legal rights, for which in and amongst the excellent advice and wise counsel offered, I have been attacked and generally abused by an unpleasant minority.
In my view - and I don't honestly care if these people deem my comments as harassment, as per the letter from the school to the OP - they are pointless spiteful know-nothings whose only contribution is to snipe from the sidelines, spoiling it for the majority.
Socially inadequate keyboard warriors the lot of them.
Letter from school is overkill but I prefer it to the FB post.....why on earth do grown ups put this drivel on there? Prior to FB who would this message have been passed to? The seeing a teacher and hearing a good report is something you'd only tell close friends if that (most of them wouldn't really care) but to go on and say "my kids been a s
t for the last 2 years....but I blame the old teacher" is playground gossip nonsense at best.
FB needs a "do you REALLY need to tell ANYONE this" tick box before posting.
t for the last 2 years....but I blame the old teacher" is playground gossip nonsense at best.FB needs a "do you REALLY need to tell ANYONE this" tick box before posting.
Andy Zarse said:
JustinP1 said:
I see the Speed, Plod and the Law modus operandi is strong in this thread.
OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
This...OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.
Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.
It's the reason I hardly ever venture into SP&L any more. I've posted perfectly normal problems on here in the past, requesting the assistance of the forum community in clarifying my legal rights, for which in and amongst the excellent advice and wise counsel offered, I have been attacked and generally abused by an unpleasant minority.
In my view - and I don't honestly care if these people deem my comments as harassment, as per the letter from the school to the OP - they are pointless spiteful know-nothings whose only contribution is to snipe from the sidelines, spoiling it for the majority.
I asked a simple question about a speeding ticket my wife wrongly received, and the majority of the replies implied my wife a liar and she probably cheating on me. The police dropped the case after the first letter denying it was her/our car.
C Lee Farquar said:
The reason I started the thread is because I would welcome thoughts on the content of the Governor's letter. I felt the tone and content was incompatible with the role of a school Governor and if the school had an issue then the Head should have raised the issue first.
I agree its certainly not the role of a school governor to get involved in such matters its the Headteachers role if anything(HT's have much bigger issues to deal with and dont need to get involved in petty nonsense like this) , but that doesn't excuse your wife slating the teacher on Facebook and behaviour like this from parents will damage the relationship with the school. I've been naughty.
I've not listened to posters on here, and I've opened my Facebook I've had closed for years. I posted this:
"Just seen the state of the economy - I knew it was the current man in charge with the problem - not the last one!"
I'll update the thread when I get contacted by the Solicitor General regarding the forced take-down. I'll also be able to update the OP with the nature of the police charges for harassment.
Additionally, as I am such a disruptive and undermining force I am sure I will get the quiet tap on the shoulder to join Anonymous too.
I've not listened to posters on here, and I've opened my Facebook I've had closed for years. I posted this:
"Just seen the state of the economy - I knew it was the current man in charge with the problem - not the last one!"
I'll update the thread when I get contacted by the Solicitor General regarding the forced take-down. I'll also be able to update the OP with the nature of the police charges for harassment.
Additionally, as I am such a disruptive and undermining force I am sure I will get the quiet tap on the shoulder to join Anonymous too.
JustinP1 said:
I've been naughty.
I've not listened to posters on here, and I've opened my Facebook I've had closed for years. I posted this:
"Just seen the state of the economy - I knew it was the current man in charge with the problem - not the last one!"
I'll update the thread when I get contacted by the Solicitor General regarding the forced take-down. I'll also be able to update the OP with the nature of the police charges for harassment.
Additionally, as I am such a disruptive and undermining force I am sure I will get the quiet tap on the shoulder to join Anonymous too.
thin ice there, you have repeated it twice. opps so have I. fek. slammer time.........;)I've not listened to posters on here, and I've opened my Facebook I've had closed for years. I posted this:
"Just seen the state of the economy - I knew it was the current man in charge with the problem - not the last one!"
I'll update the thread when I get contacted by the Solicitor General regarding the forced take-down. I'll also be able to update the OP with the nature of the police charges for harassment.
Additionally, as I am such a disruptive and undermining force I am sure I will get the quiet tap on the shoulder to join Anonymous too.
Being in a similar position myself as a COG at an Academy, I can see why the COG has taken the stance he or she did, however in hindsight perhaps it could have been less officious.
In my situation it was the HT who asked me to get involved... in our instance it stemmed from a family who had moved their children to another local school.
Our school was called a "military camp" accusations of "bullying and assaults" were made, " a distinct feeling that they don't like kids" was mentioned and "general lack of care" was cited...
Somebody else then chipped in saying "schools are run like prisons not like schools usually with some tt on a power trip with some teachers and TAs on similar power trips"...
Further negative comments were made about the HT and also the governors, and this was all kicked off because the family of the child could not accept that there were severe behavioural issues with one of their children. It followed many incidents culminating where their 6 year old had totally ran amok trashing a classroom turning over tables and chairs, pulling down displays and generally creating a huge mess. (It was a volatile child who would suddenly erupt without warning)
The school had worked long and hard over a long period time to try and support the child, providing additional support, (SEN etc) and keeping the family fully involved. But for this family they viewed it as a stigma as it burst their "perfect family image bubble" in their own eyes...
Anyone familiar with schools will know that the vast majority of teachers etc do it for the love of the job rather than money or power trips...
In our own instance the police actually dealt with the family as it was drawn to their attention during an "e-safety" presentation at the school by another parent.
Once the police spoke to the family the offending comments were removed, but not before the school had taken screen shots of the postings...
This proved to be useful months later when the family decided to complain officially and conveniently "forget" about the incident, after they had moved their children to another school. They also made accusations of me of stalking them on FB because of this, although it was parents who brought it to our attention and subsequently the police. I also got challenged on my credentials in regards to dealing with children... despite having 3 CRBs, completing various child safety, protection, safeguarding and welfare courses/certifications.
This has actually worked in our favour as we now have four additional pupils whose parents moved their children from that school. More specifically the class where that 6 year old went in to....
In my situation it was the HT who asked me to get involved... in our instance it stemmed from a family who had moved their children to another local school.
Our school was called a "military camp" accusations of "bullying and assaults" were made, " a distinct feeling that they don't like kids" was mentioned and "general lack of care" was cited...
Somebody else then chipped in saying "schools are run like prisons not like schools usually with some t
t on a power trip with some teachers and TAs on similar power trips"... Further negative comments were made about the HT and also the governors, and this was all kicked off because the family of the child could not accept that there were severe behavioural issues with one of their children. It followed many incidents culminating where their 6 year old had totally ran amok trashing a classroom turning over tables and chairs, pulling down displays and generally creating a huge mess. (It was a volatile child who would suddenly erupt without warning)
The school had worked long and hard over a long period time to try and support the child, providing additional support, (SEN etc) and keeping the family fully involved. But for this family they viewed it as a stigma as it burst their "perfect family image bubble" in their own eyes...
Anyone familiar with schools will know that the vast majority of teachers etc do it for the love of the job rather than money or power trips...
In our own instance the police actually dealt with the family as it was drawn to their attention during an "e-safety" presentation at the school by another parent.
Once the police spoke to the family the offending comments were removed, but not before the school had taken screen shots of the postings...
This proved to be useful months later when the family decided to complain officially and conveniently "forget" about the incident, after they had moved their children to another school. They also made accusations of me of stalking them on FB because of this, although it was parents who brought it to our attention and subsequently the police. I also got challenged on my credentials in regards to dealing with children... despite having 3 CRBs, completing various child safety, protection, safeguarding and welfare courses/certifications.
This has actually worked in our favour as we now have four additional pupils whose parents moved their children from that school. More specifically the class where that 6 year old went in to....
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