Your views on letter from School Governor

[Vaud]

Countdown said:

No they won't. Any half decent school will have a behaviour policy and kids who swear or abuse teachers should get disciplined. It's kind of difficult to get Little Johnny to behave in School if Little Johnny's mum blames the school for his poor behaviour / attainment rather than looking a bit closer to home.

Where did I say swear or abuse? " I think mr smith is a rubbish teacher and a cause of my poor speeeling" is neither.

[Countdown]

Vaud said:

Where did I say swear or abuse? " I think mr smith is a rubbish teacher and a cause of my poor speeeling" is neither.

Ok, maybe not abuse but stating "I think Mr Smith is a rubbish teacher etc" in public so that other parents are awrae of what you said isn't particularly nice. Mr Smith doesn't exactly have the "right of reply" so he can't say " Little Johnny is a pain to teach and I think it's due to poor parenting".

There was no need to air her grievances on FB.It's patently obvious that it's not as private as she wanted as it has got back to the school in one way por another. If she had a problem with the school or teacher then take it up with them rather than sniping on FB.

[Jasandjules]

If you posted EXACTLY what you quoted in the post, then it is unlikely the school has any cause of action, certainly not for harassment. Assuming your OH hasn't repeatedly posted similar on FB.

I would be inclined to ask the Governor how you go about making a formal complaint about the teacher in question, one which goes on record and will go to Ofsted.

I would also ask the Governor to confirm that they wish to prevent parents discussing the performance of the teachers..........

But that is because their conduct would get my back up...

[eldar]

Jasandjules said:

If you posted EXACTLY what you quoted in the post, then it is unlikely the school has any cause of action, certainly not for harassment. Assuming your OH hasn't repeatedly posted similar on FB.

I would be inclined to ask the Governor how you go about making a formal complaint about the teacher in question, one which goes on record and will go to Ofsted.

I would also ask the Governor to confirm that they wish to prevent parents discussing the performance of the teachers..........

But that is because their conduct would get my back up...

The response would be a)fill in this form and b)grow up and act like a parent and stop bypassing formal channels and using facebook and c)it shows, the froth round your mouth gives it away.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

C Lee Farquar said:

OH posted this on private facebook account:

so happy.. have just been to meet xxx tutor, who said she was a kind, clever, caring model student that never puts a foot wrong J… not the disruptive naughty child that always makes bad choices she has been told she is for the last 2 yrs!!! I knew it was the teacher not the child that had the problem

To me this reads as Tinkerbell's new teacher has been told for the last 2 years by her previous teacher that Tinkerbell is a little st, However OP's OH has been questioning this with the teacher.

Now Tinkerbell's new teacher has agreed that she is in fact a model student and OH has simply stated to a few friends ( Via FB admittedly) that she has been proven right and it was the previous teacher who had a problem with Tinkerbell..

[selym]

Perhaps teacher 1 should post on Facebook about teacher 2s bad judge of character.

[ikarl]

OP - can you confirm, Are these comments from a new teacher who's looking after your child for 25+ hours per week, or a paid tutor that is working with your child for a few hours per week? and therefore, in her best interests to tell your wife that she thinks your daughter is an angel etc....

[JustinP1]

I see the Speed, Plod and the Law modus operandi is strong in this thread.

OP posts up a personal letter asking a legal question about the content of it.

Cue PH sleuths wading in with theories based on no evidence other than their own presumptions culminating in the character assassination of his wife and kid.

[C Lee Farquar]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

To me this reads as Tinkerbell's new teacher has been told for the last 2 years by her previous teacher that Tinkerbell is a little st, However OP's OH has been questioning this with the teacher.

Now Tinkerbell's new teacher has agreed that she is in fact a model student and OH has simply stated to a few friends ( Via FB admittedly) that she has been proven right and it was the previous teacher who had a problem with Tinkerbell..

This is pretty much how I see it. She has now moved to Secondary school.

Tinkerbell has had faultless reports throughout her schooling bar from one teacher. I suspect it was largely down to a personality clash and that the teacher is a little out of her depth.

Whilst it probably doesn't bear to go into too much detail, Tinkerbell was excluded from class for saying 'oh my God' when another student spilt paint everywhere (blasphemy), whereas another child with domestic issues called the teacher 'a fxxcking xxxt' and was given a laptop to play with so as not to distract the other students.

[0000]

supertouring said:

So parents are now suitably qualified to review teaching staff via Facebook.

Pitchforks at the ready then.

And hotel guests via Tripadvisor or shoppers via Amazon, what is the world coming to. Only qualified government employees should have views!

Schools seem to have a bizarre and unsavoury obsession with Facebook, post it on another social network and they'll never get their knickers in a twist.

[sim72]

0000 said:

Schools seem to have a bizarre and unsavoury obsession with Facebook, post it on another social network and they'll never get their knickers in a twist.

Probably because of the endless amounts of s**t they end up dealing with in school because of online bullying and harrassment between students which takes place outside, most of which ends up on Facebook. I've had experience of parents getting involved in such unpleasantness as well. When this happens, my school usually just passes it onto the police.

Although not on the level of this incident, a school near where I used to live had a Facebook group set up with the intent of getting a teacher sacked. The parents of the students involved were called in and told in no uncertain terms that if the material didn't disappear within 24 hours all the students involved would be permanently excluded. It disappeared.

[aw51 121565]

C Lee Farquar said:

This is pretty much how I see it. She has now moved to Secondary school.

Tinkerbell has had faultless reports throughout her schooling bar from one teacher. I suspect it was largely down to a personality clash and that the teacher is a little out of her depth.

Whilst it probably doesn't bear to go into too much detail, Tinkerbell was excluded from class for saying 'oh my God' when another student spilt paint everywhere (blasphemy), whereas another child with domestic issues called the teacher 'a fxxcking xxxt' and was given a laptop to play with so as not to distract the other students.

So your good lady wife was referring to a year 5 & year 6 teacher when she mentioned "the previous teacher", and the governor who wrote the letter is presumably referring to the year 7 teacher at a different school?

That is comedic gold dust , and very much a schoolboy (sorry ) error!

Formal written complaint is due to the chair of governors copied in to the head ASAP - feet shouldn't touch the floor after this indescretion on the part of the gung-ho-letter-writing-governor. Assuming it was a governor who wrote the letter and not the chair of governors (my assumption is based on my reading of this thread), anyway...

Oh, and tell your wife not to post anything significant or vaguely possibly controversial on faecesbook again - you now know it makes sense (your wife having just experienced the sort of retard to be found on there and waded unknowingly into this shtstorm as a result because retards don't always just work alone) .

[BertBert]

sim72 said:

Although not on the level of this incident, a school near where I used to live had a Facebook group set up with the intent of getting a teacher sacked. The parents of the students involved were called in and told in no uncertain terms that if the material didn't disappear within 24 hours all the students involved would be permanently excluded. It disappeared.

Yes, exactly, not like this incident at all, so not even relevant. You are thinking like the Governor it would seem. Blowing one comment up out of all proportion and making it into a thing it's not (harassment) just because a veiled comment appears on Facebook.

What about the discussion (gossip) that would go on between the parents in such a matter. As all parents know it is rife and direct to the point of being vicious.

The Governor is behaving like a tt. Not least of which because he's on his huge high horse and can't even get his facts straight about harassment and the laws defining it!

Bert

[Mr GrimNasty]

How do they go about policing 'rate my teacher' etc. then?

[sim72]

BertBert said:

sim72 said:

Although not on the level of this incident, a school near where I used to live had a Facebook group set up with the intent of getting a teacher sacked. The parents of the students involved were called in and told in no uncertain terms that if the material didn't disappear within 24 hours all the students involved would be permanently excluded. It disappeared.

Yes, exactly, not like this incident at all, so not even relevant. You are thinking like the Governor it would seem.

Bert

I mentioned that incident in reply to the poster above about the problems with Facebook and schools in general, not as a comparison to the original post. I even included the first part of the sentence so people wouldn't think I was equating the two. Clearly I needed to do more.

[sim72]

Mr GrimNasty said:

How do they go about policing 'rate my teacher' etc. then?

Since the posts there are anonymous, it can't be policed.

[Sheepshanks]

aw51 121565 said:

So your good lady wife was referring to a year 5 & year 6 teacher when she mentioned "the previous teacher", and the governor who wrote the letter is presumably referring to the year 7 teacher at a different school?

That is comedic gold dust , and very much a schoolboy (sorry ) error!

It's not possible to be sure who is being referred to but as the latter teacher was praised it seems reasonable to assume the complaint is on behalf of the previous teacher.

If that's correct, then it does seem overly touchy. A bit of either digging or muck-spreading must have gone on to make the connections between the parent, child, past child and the teacher.

aw51 121565 said:

Formal written complaint is due to the chair of governors copied in to the head ASAP - feet shouldn't touch the floor after this indescretion on the part of the gung-ho-letter-writing-governor. Assuming it was a governor who wrote the letter and not the chair of governors (my assumption is based on my reading of this thread), anyway...

The OP quotes a letter from the Chairman of the Governing Body.

[All that jazz]

Vroom101 said:

So let's get this straight - the teacher who feels they were the subject of 'harassment' was never actually named on Facebook?

The teacher(s) was named. C Lee has blanked them out in their post. See the 6th paragraph :

Governor said:

In those comments, among other things, you criticize one of the teachers – xxx. In doing so you undermine her professional reputation. She and her colleagues have been deeply distressed by your comments.

Imho, Lee's wife got what she deserved for being so monumentally retarded. There are correct channels for airing grievances with teachers/schools and Facebook isn't one of them.

[JustinP1]

All that jazz said:

Vroom101 said:

So let's get this straight - the teacher who feels they were the subject of 'harassment' was never actually named on Facebook?

The teacher(s) was named. C Lee has blanked them out in their post. See the 6th paragraph :

Governor said:

In those comments, among other things, you criticize one of the teachers – xxx. In doing so you undermine her professional reputation. She and her colleagues have been deeply distressed by your comments.

Imho, Lee's wife got what she deserved for being so monumentally retarded. There are correct channels for airing grievances with teachers/schools and Facebook isn't one of them.

No, the school named the teacher.

The OP's OH said this:

"so happy.. have just been to meet xxx tutor, who said she was a kind, clever, caring model student that never puts a foot wrong J… not the disruptive naughty child that always makes bad choices she has been told she is for the last 2 yrs!!! I knew it was the teacher not the child that had the problem"

[All that jazz]

JustinP1 said:

All that jazz said:

Vroom101 said:

So let's get this straight - the teacher who feels they were the subject of 'harassment' was never actually named on Facebook?

The teacher(s) was named. C Lee has blanked them out in their post. See the 6th paragraph :

Governor said:

In those comments, among other things, you criticize one of the teachers – xxx. In doing so you undermine her professional reputation. She and her colleagues have been deeply distressed by your comments.

Imho, Lee's wife got what she deserved for being so monumentally retarded. There are correct channels for airing grievances with teachers/schools and Facebook isn't one of them.

No, the school named the teacher.

The OP's OH said this:

"so happy.. have just been to meet xxx tutor, who said she was a kind, clever, caring model student that never puts a foot wrong J… not the disruptive naughty child that always makes bad choices she has been told she is for the last 2 yrs!!! I knew it was the teacher not the child that had the problem"

We're not being furnished with the whole story here. In order for the school to say to the wife that they are very unhappy about the comments made about <insert teacher name> then the OP OH must have named them. It's another classic PH case of only being provided with the details to make everyone agree with them.