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This officer was found not guilty. He was in fear of his life because a handcuffed 20 year old looked at him funny. The 20 year old was so dangerous that even the custody sergeant didnt bother to look away from his computer screen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-31...
It is ironic that the police vigorously pursued charges against a paramedic who watched a man collapse and die (the patient wasnt directly under the paramedic's care at the time) whilst not one officer was punished for Christopher Alder's death.
CCTV is doing a lot of good as it has surely reduced thuggish police behaviour. Even if we are not getting a high number of convictions of the so called bad apples, it is opening the eyes of those who wish to know to what actually goes on.
This officer was found not guilty. He was in fear of his life because a handcuffed 20 year old looked at him funny. The 20 year old was so dangerous that even the custody sergeant didnt bother to look away from his computer screen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-31...
It is ironic that the police vigorously pursued charges against a paramedic who watched a man collapse and die (the patient wasnt directly under the paramedic's care at the time) whilst not one officer was punished for Christopher Alder's death.
CCTV is doing a lot of good as it has surely reduced thuggish police behaviour. Even if we are not getting a high number of convictions of the so called bad apples, it is opening the eyes of those who wish to know to what actually goes on.
Rovinghawk said:
I know it was overturned- I don't understand why. He should have stopped it not joined in.
Because you have no idea what you are talking about, like most things you contribute on. Eclassy said:
It is ironic that the police vigorously pursued charges against a paramedic who watched a man collapse and die (the patient wasnt directly under the paramedic's care at the time) whilst not one officer was punished for Christopher Alder's death.
I don't think you know what irony is. La Liga said:
Rovinghawk said:
I know it was overturned- I don't understand why. He should have stopped it not joined in.
Because you have no idea what you are talking about, like most things you contribute on. Rovinghawk said:
La Liga said:
Rovinghawk said:
I know it was overturned- I don't understand why. He should have stopped it not joined in.
Because you have no idea what you are talking about, like most things you contribute on. La Liga said:
If it's obvious it's illegal at the time as opposed to a close call by a court.
I'm not sure how you define close call in relation to the illegal act. The judge called it torture, the appeal judge upheld that it was an illegal act.How is hurting someone purely to get information not obviously wrong?
Eclassy said:
^^^^^^
Hahahaha Close call by a court.
I wonder how many victims of police wrongdoing think the same when criminals in uniform are found not guilty on technicalities.
1/2 were acquitted. That means the matter wasn't clear by any means. Hahahaha Close call by a court.
I wonder how many victims of police wrongdoing think the same when criminals in uniform are found not guilty on technicalities.
Tell us about the man tapping on your window again
Rovinghawk said:
La Liga said:
If it's obvious it's illegal at the time as opposed to a close call by a court.
I'm not sure how you define close call in relation to the illegal act.Why weren't the officers who were present dealt with if it was so obvious? They would be expected to if it were? Are you going to default to conspiracy here?
La Liga said:
1/2 were acquitted. That means the matter wasn't clear by any means.
The act was illegal. That's crystal clear. You might find it acceptable but I don't. Neither did the judge.Supporting it was eventually found to not be illegal. I don't understand it but have to accept it.
I still note that most of those present ignored the torture, only 1 intervened.
Rovinghawk said:
The act was illegal. That's crystal clear. You might find it acceptable but I don't. Neither did the judge.
The conclusion is crystal clear from the court, the conclusion at the time to those who were present and thus the expectation upon them wasn't so. If it was crystal clear at the time, why were the officers present punished for not intervening?
La Liga said:
Why weren't the officers who were present dealt with if it was so obvious? They would be expected to if it were? Are you going to default to conspiracy here?
Rovinghawk said:
The judge called it torture
Who did? Do you find it a little embarrassing your accuracy is so poor? It's amusing you'll pick up on someone who makes a typo (whilst on the same post failing to capitalise correctly), but show no such will for accuracy when it comes to the substance under debate. I guess that's why, when discussing Menezes, you made-up "MI5 guy" and have made-up several fictional quotes.
How superficial. Eclassy has the excuse of being thick - I'd have more faith in a brick wall to comprehend matters, whereas you like to be the 'pub expert', always able to find problems but no solutions.
La Liga said:
Rovinghawk said:
The judge called it torture
Who did? The deputy CC called it excessive force. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-18032806
You appear to condone what happened. Disappointing- I would have hoped that you'd condemn rather than excuse such behaviour. Would it be correct to assume you don't actually indulge in such activity yourself?
Rovinghawk said:
La Liga said:
Rovinghawk said:
The judge called it torture
Who did? The deputy CC called it excessive force. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-18032806
You appear to condone what happened. Disappointing- I would have hoped that you'd condemn rather than excuse such behaviour. Would it be correct to assume you don't actually indulge in such activity yourself?
Mk3Spitfire said:
Grow up. Where has he even come close to condoning it? Looks to me like he's pointing out that maybe the whole thing wasn't as clear cut as was first reported. No cop on here is going to condone torture, and even through your trolling eyes you can see that.
He didnt but its easier to make stuff up to back your point it would seem. A very visible police presence in Central London today around the tourist areas and stations, when you remember the majority are unarmed, but as the saying goes they will be the people running towards danger while everyone else runs away.
It's a sobering thought especially when you realise most of the tourists will be used to their own police being routinely armed.
It's a sobering thought especially when you realise most of the tourists will be used to their own police being routinely armed.
Elroy Blue said:
Arrse, Rum Ration and others. The Military are as pissed off and contemptuous of this Government as we are. You can read the forums or listen to those serving for the facts.
Whilst not perhaps disagreeing with your point, the posters on ARRSE, and possibly elsewhere, are over-whelmingly either retired or have never served. That's not to say their points aren't valid but - as with all elements of the internet - don't believe that the posts on forums represent the majority; it ain't necessarily so. 
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