"Father and son disqualified and given 42 and 48 point"
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Sorry if this had already been posted but just saw this article which i wanted to share.
Father and son disqualified after attempts to avoid speeding points.
A father and son have been disqualified from driving and handed a court bill of almost £4,000 after attempting to evade points on their licence for 15 speeding offences.
Danny Bibby and his son Daley worked together to try and avoid taking responsibility for the offences by failing to provide accurate driver details.
The duo, aged 63 and 27, registered their Volkswagen Golf to a foreign man they claimed to be real and failed to admit either of them were driving when the car was caught speeding between August 2014 and January 2015.
Notices to identify the driver responsible for the offences which incurred a total of 90 points were initially sent to the address of the ‘registered keeper’ at Buckles Lane, South Ockendon.
When they were returned with claims that the driver wasn’t known at the address, officers visited the address and found the same Volkswagen parked outside the Bibby’s address nearby.
Further investigations revealed both Danny and Daley Bibby had at times over the six month period been named on the insurance policy for the car.
Yet when documents to identify the driver were sent to either of them, they either failed to respond or named the ‘registered keeper’ as the driver.
After detailed investigations the men, both of Buckles Lane, South Ockendon, were summonsed to appear at Southend Magistrates’ Court on Monday, November 16, 2015.
They denied failing to provide driver details but were convicted.
Danny Bibby was given 42 points on his licence for 7 speeding offences and disqualified for six months. He was also ordered to pay a fine of £200 for each offence totalling £1,400 as well as costs of £387.
Daley Bibby was given 48 points on his licence for eight speeding offences and disqualified for 12 months and fined £1,700. He was ordered to pay costs of £387.
The points will remain on the men’s licences for a period of three years.
Adam Pipe, Casualty Reduction Manager, said: “Danny and Daley Bibby claimed that the ‘registered keeper’ of the vehicle was a real man who had left his car at their address for them to repair before selling it to them and disappearing when he was unable to pair the bill for the repairs.
“Danny claimed he was unable to respond to the notifications he had received in the post because he was unable to read and write and Daley attempted to justify his lack of response by claiming he had gone travelling for two months.
“The magistrate saw through their tricks and lies and accepted that the duo had either invented a fictitious registered keeper or had repeatedly failed to supply accurate information to the police.
“People that receive documentation from the police service in relation to traffic offences must comply. Any attempt to forgot about it or deter or obstruct the course of justice is unacceptable. Our officers will catch up with you and put you before the courts.”
http://essex.police.uk/news_features/other_stories...
Imagine having to declare that when trying to get out insurance. "Have you any point on your licence sir?" "Erm... 48..."
Father and son disqualified after attempts to avoid speeding points.
A father and son have been disqualified from driving and handed a court bill of almost £4,000 after attempting to evade points on their licence for 15 speeding offences.
Danny Bibby and his son Daley worked together to try and avoid taking responsibility for the offences by failing to provide accurate driver details.
The duo, aged 63 and 27, registered their Volkswagen Golf to a foreign man they claimed to be real and failed to admit either of them were driving when the car was caught speeding between August 2014 and January 2015.
Notices to identify the driver responsible for the offences which incurred a total of 90 points were initially sent to the address of the ‘registered keeper’ at Buckles Lane, South Ockendon.
When they were returned with claims that the driver wasn’t known at the address, officers visited the address and found the same Volkswagen parked outside the Bibby’s address nearby.
Further investigations revealed both Danny and Daley Bibby had at times over the six month period been named on the insurance policy for the car.
Yet when documents to identify the driver were sent to either of them, they either failed to respond or named the ‘registered keeper’ as the driver.
After detailed investigations the men, both of Buckles Lane, South Ockendon, were summonsed to appear at Southend Magistrates’ Court on Monday, November 16, 2015.
They denied failing to provide driver details but were convicted.
Danny Bibby was given 42 points on his licence for 7 speeding offences and disqualified for six months. He was also ordered to pay a fine of £200 for each offence totalling £1,400 as well as costs of £387.
Daley Bibby was given 48 points on his licence for eight speeding offences and disqualified for 12 months and fined £1,700. He was ordered to pay costs of £387.
The points will remain on the men’s licences for a period of three years.
Adam Pipe, Casualty Reduction Manager, said: “Danny and Daley Bibby claimed that the ‘registered keeper’ of the vehicle was a real man who had left his car at their address for them to repair before selling it to them and disappearing when he was unable to pair the bill for the repairs.
“Danny claimed he was unable to respond to the notifications he had received in the post because he was unable to read and write and Daley attempted to justify his lack of response by claiming he had gone travelling for two months.
“The magistrate saw through their tricks and lies and accepted that the duo had either invented a fictitious registered keeper or had repeatedly failed to supply accurate information to the police.
“People that receive documentation from the police service in relation to traffic offences must comply. Any attempt to forgot about it or deter or obstruct the course of justice is unacceptable. Our officers will catch up with you and put you before the courts.”
http://essex.police.uk/news_features/other_stories...
Imagine having to declare that when trying to get out insurance. "Have you any point on your licence sir?" "Erm... 48..."
fatjon said:
Very, How much time and money was spent on this. If the pair of them had burgled someone there would have been crime number handed out and sod all else.
Not suggesting you are wrong, however wouldn't you agree that offences such as PcJ strike at the heart of what society is all about? I realise that's not what they were convicted of, but it should have been.BertBert said:
Interesting, is this not PCoJ?
Bert
My thoughts exactly.Bert
Medic-one said:
The duo, aged 63 and 27, registered their Volkswagen Golf to a foreign man they claimed to be real and failed to admit either of them were driving when the car was caught speeding between August 2014 and January 2015.
Doesn't look like the apple fell far from the tree, either.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/malling/news/boot-fair...
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/young-cr...
Yeh, maybe the police should be catching "real criminals"...
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/malling/news/boot-fair...
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/young-cr...
Yeh, maybe the police should be catching "real criminals"...
Hugo a Gogo said:
google maps street view Buckles Lane in South Ockeneden
housing of the temporary (perhaps even mobile) sort along with some shiny Range Rovers etc
Correct. I 'lived' there for two weeks when I went down to work on the Olympics. Mate said.."I've got us a cheap caravan- £25/wk each". I said "Cool". Fool!housing of the temporary (perhaps even mobile) sort along with some shiny Range Rovers etc
Arrived there in my Clio Trophy one Sunday evening. What a shock to a bloke that lives in the wilds of North Wales! Met the guy that owned the site and subtly expressed my concerns about leaving my car there during the day. He said "You can leave the keys in it. None of my people steal from their own and as long as you live here you are one of us."
That night and every night there were quads up and down and music playing all night. Soon got fed up and left.
fatjon said:
Very, How much time and money was spent on this.
fatjon said:
That was a good result, they must be well chuffed at getting that much money into the coffers.
They spent time and money or made it? Nothing like contradicting yourself in two posts. fatjon said:
If the pair of them had burgled someone there would have been crime number handed out and sod all else.
I like the logic. There are some historic murders that are unsolved which are the most serious crimes.The police must not do any lesser activity until they are solved!
Countdown said:
Not really. I'd be amazed if they paid up and I'd be even more amazed if the points forced them to stop driving.
They're vermin.
Vermin, yes, but vermin with their assets confiscated, then jailed vermin if they're caught driving while banned.They're vermin.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 19th November 23:25
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