Fake SPECS Cameras?
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Roadworks on the M3 J8-J6 at the moment, Average speed cameras covering the stretch. This morning a big chunk of the works had vanished northbound overnight including the cameras. That seemed quick to remove all that stuff. Anyway the few left in the short section I took a closer look at today and there are no cables running to them. Even if they were wireless they would need power.
Work in the most part though as generally the traffic is going about 50-55.
Work in the most part though as generally the traffic is going about 50-55.
Edited by Silver940 on Friday 20th November 09:51
SVTRick said:
So if we get NIP's in the post can we forward them to you
You may be better looking what's going on ahead instead of rubber necking looking for
tiny cables on the verge which could well be buried anyway.
I'm not telling anyone to speed through, there are workers present at the end of the day. You may be better looking what's going on ahead instead of rubber necking looking for
tiny cables on the verge which could well be buried anyway.
They have not buried cables for a 3 month set of road works. The CCTV cables are running along side but nothing goes to the camera poles.
Very few SPECS cameras within a zone are live. There's a box at the base of each camera pole which does the clever stuff and that can be moved around within zones to reconfigure the points where your reg. no. is captured.
I'm not sure the lack of obvious cabling around each camera pole is going to be conclusive as to whether they are inactive though. You're not going to spot cables easily at ground level.
More here if you're really interested: http://www.vysionics.com/product/specs
I'm not sure the lack of obvious cabling around each camera pole is going to be conclusive as to whether they are inactive though. You're not going to spot cables easily at ground level.
More here if you're really interested: http://www.vysionics.com/product/specs
sherbertdip said:
ALT F4 said:
A number of SPECS cameras are indeed fake and act as a deterrent without the cost of running the 'real' ones.
You come across as very knowledgable chap, can you let us all into the secret of precisely where these fake camaras are?The key is to work out where the last live one is before your junction. In reality it matters little apart from later on at night as the motorway is pretty well gridlocked most of the social hours of the day.
LoonR1 said:
sherbertdip said:
ALT F4 said:
A number of SPECS cameras are indeed fake and act as a deterrent without the cost of running the 'real' ones.
You come across as very knowledgable chap, can you let us all into the secret of precisely where these fake camaras are?...
Nasty stretch of road nowadays, anyway .
aw51 121565 said:
Your second point is almost certainly erroneous; the IR (so-called "faint red glow which can be seen either side of each camera in a 'live' installation") allows the camers(s) to 'read' the registration mark due to the front number plate's retroreflective properties. I do agree that around 20% seem to be 'live', but a lot less than 20% have floodlights on the approach . You've also got to be right in front of the camera to be able to see the IR emissions; they are pretty narrowly focussed.
Nasty stretch of road nowadays, anyway .
The floodlights are to light up the driver and make sure there is a 100% chance of identification. I have no intention of speeding down there, as I don't fancy unnecessary points, but a 57mph cruise control speed seems to be fine in the late evenings when the motorway flows. At those speeds is easy to have a quick glance amd analyse. The faint red glow is only on the floodlit cameras. Coincidence? I think not. Nasty stretch of road nowadays, anyway .
Either way, I'm just passing comment, I'm not advocating. Whizzing down there, as the active cameras are pretty well covering every exit anyway.
LoonR1 said:
aw51 121565 said:
Your second point is almost certainly erroneous; the IR (so-called "faint red glow which can be seen either side of each camera in a 'live' installation") allows the camers(s) to 'read' the registration mark due to the front number plate's retroreflective properties. I do agree that around 20% seem to be 'live', but a lot less than 20% have floodlights on the approach . You've also got to be right in front of the camera to be able to see the IR emissions; they are pretty narrowly focussed.
Nasty stretch of road nowadays, anyway .
The floodlights are to light up the driver and make sure there is a 100% chance of identification. I have no intention of speeding down there, as I don't fancy unnecessary points, but a 57mph cruise control speed seems to be fine in the late evenings when the motorway flows. At those speeds is easy to have a quick glance amd analyse. The faint red glow is only on the floodlit cameras. Coincidence? I think not. Nasty stretch of road nowadays, anyway .
Either way, I'm just passing comment, I'm not advocating. Whizzing down there, as the active cameras are pretty well covering every exit anyway.
In most road works, floodlights are few, so I reckon there are a lot of dummies.
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