Injured Instructor.

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handpaper

Original Poster:

1,296 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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My son is learning to drive and is insured on my wife's car for this purpose; he's been driving her around for practice at pretty much every opportunity.
Last weekend she fell down the stairs and fractured a bone in her foot. Wearing the huge plastic boot she's been given to support it she now can't drive herself, so having the boy available to drive her has been quite useful.
Unfortunately, she's been told by a variety of people that this is illegal / will invalidate her insurance / is a really bad idea.

Any thoughts?

hidetheelephants

24,354 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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It's a load of bks; she has a licence, therefore she can sit in the passenger seat and supervise like the law expects.

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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https://www.gov.uk/driving-lessons-learning-to-dri...

Over 21, qualified to drive that vehicle. Had a qualifying licence for more than 2 years, not on the phone/pissed/asleep/dead.

Nothing about plastic boots.

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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ferrariF50lover said:
https://www.gov.uk/driving-lessons-learning-to-dri...

Over 21, qualified to drive that vehicle. Had a qualifying licence for more than 2 years, not on the phone/pissed/asleep/dead.

Nothing about plastic boots.
Nothing about being sober or able to see either, but you do technically have to be
But i do agree a broken foot would not stop you being able to supervise a learner

98elise

26,599 posts

161 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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People legally drive cars with missing limbs.

Her role as instructor doesn't need her to use her legs, and she is not actually driving.

catman

2,490 posts

175 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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There are some numpties around. What would she be able to do if her foot was ok, that she can't do now?

Tim

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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catman said:
There are some numpties around. What would she be able to do if her foot was ok, that she can't do now?
Drive a car?

getmecoat

Derek Smith

45,660 posts

248 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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98elise said:
People legally drive cars with missing limbs.
You can be registered as blind and still be allowed to drive. I am assured they could supervise as well.

Steve H

5,283 posts

195 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Would a supervising driver be expected to be capable of taking over and driving the car if the learner found themselves in a situation where they couldn't?

People do drive with various disabilities as suggested above but they are capable of driving which right now the OP's Mrs isn't, I'm just wondering if that is an issue?


Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Steve H said:
Would a supervising driver be expected to be capable of taking over and driving the car if the learner found themselves in a situation where they couldn't?

People do drive with various disabilities as suggested above but they are capable of driving which right now the OP's Mrs isn't, I'm just wondering if that is an issue?
Interesting - is the test of the second driver "able to advise" or "able to take over".

Monkeylegend

26,389 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Be careful, if your son did something stupid, and your wife had to take over, or if they were stopped by the BiB for some minor infringement, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on.


BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
Be careful, if your son did something stupid, and your wife had to take over, or if they were stopped by the BiB for some minor infringement, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
You have put your foot in it now... we are going to end up with all kinds of jokes.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,367 posts

150 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Steve H said:
Would a supervising driver be expected to be capable of taking over and driving the car if the learner found themselves in a situation where they couldn't?

People do drive with various disabilities as suggested above but they are capable of driving which right now the OP's Mrs isn't, I'm just wondering if that is an issue?
The legislation says the learner driver must be insured to drive (obviously) and the supervising driver would "usually" be insured to drive the car. So one assumes it's ok for the supervising driver not to be insured to drive, so they couldn't take over even if the situation required it.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,367 posts

150 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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ferrariF50lover said:
https://www.gov.uk/driving-lessons-learning-to-dri...

Over 21, qualified to drive that vehicle. Had a qualifying licence for more than 2 years, not on the phone/pissed/asleep/dead.

Nothing about plastic boots.
3 years.

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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BobSaunders said:
Monkeylegend said:
Be careful, if your son did something stupid, and your wife had to take over, or if they were stopped by the BiB for some minor infringement, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
You have put your foot in it now... we are going to end up with all kinds of jokes.
If her son got involved in a road rage incident she could put the boot in.

She has a plastic boot,I am pretty sure you can wear wellingtons in a car.

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
3 years.
Well done you, you've correctly identified that the number three is indeed greater than the number two. Have a biscuit.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,367 posts

150 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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ferrariF50lover said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
3 years.
Well done you, you've correctly identified that the number three is indeed greater than the number two. Have a biscuit.
Shame you couldn't have posted the correct info in the first place.

handpaper

Original Poster:

1,296 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Cheers gents, will advise thumbup

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

135 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Regardless of the law, I'm not sure it's a great idea to take a learner driver out whilst being unable to take over if needed. If it leads to this quality of jokes though, bash on.

AyBee

10,535 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Steve H said:
Would a supervising driver be expected to be capable of taking over and driving the car if the learner found themselves in a situation where they couldn't?

People do drive with various disabilities as suggested above but they are capable of driving which right now the OP's Mrs isn't, I'm just wondering if that is an issue?
Whilst it would be a sensible back-up, she doesn't actually have to be insured to drive the car to sit in the passenger seat and supervise as long as the learner is insured to drive the car AFAIK and therefore she could have no legs and still be legally allowed to supervise the OP's son.