Taxing a car that is just being bought

Taxing a car that is just being bought

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Cyberprog

2,191 posts

184 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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There is a new online service that allows you to handle the V5C change and re-tax the vehicle IIRC. I wasn't aware of it when I bought my last one, but I was able to do the tax online.

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Flibble

6,475 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Cyberprog said:
There is a new online service that allows you to handle the V5C change and re-tax the vehicle IIRC. I wasn't aware of it when I bought my last one, but I was able to do the tax online.

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle
That looks very handy, except I just tried to use it... "This service is only available Monday to Saturday 08:00 to 18:00."
What? It's a website, but only works during office hours. How did they manage to screw this up?

Big Al.

68,869 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I was asking as your comment suggested a big outlay amd real frustration at having to buy tax on the 29th to cover the previous 28 days when you didn't own the car. It cost you 22.40 door those 28 days assuming a 30 day month, so hardly bank breaking. What would you have done under the old scheme if the car you bought didn't have tax?
Not a lot BUT whatever tax that had remained on the vehicle would probably have lasted until the end of the month i.e 1 day thus allowing me to tax it from the first of the next month.

No frustration, no big outlay, but I would have preferred to have put the money towards it's first tank of petrol.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Big Al. said:
Not a lot BUT whatever tax that had remained on the vehicle would probably have lasted until the end of the month i.e 1 day thus allowing me to tax it from the first of the next month.

No frustration, no big outlay, but I would have preferred to have put the money towards it's first tank of petrol.
There's no guarantee though. It's quite possible that it could've sat on a forecourt without tax. You could quite easily not have tax edit for two days and there would've been no comeback at all. I'm always happy to push things a little, not least because I speed most of the time when I'm driving.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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I probably wouldn't bother so close to the end of the month, not least because I managed to drive round for nearly 2 months without an MOT recently boxedin

Cyberprog

2,191 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Flibble said:
That looks very handy, except I just tried to use it... "This service is only available Monday to Saturday 08:00 to 18:00."
What? It's a website, but only works during office hours. How did they manage to screw this up?
That's... special! Only the DVLA...

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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I understand why tax was the way it was when we needed the disc as printing them month by month was sensible. Now there is no need for the disc why can the tax not start on the day of purchase and last 1 year from then?


Ken Figenus

5,708 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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anonymous said:
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This isn't money they are due - they are being paid twice for the same thing. Its a bit like extortion and should be referred to the European Court of Human Rights - or highermadwink! Rotters.

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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anonymous said:
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All to do with paperless VED and the potential for new keepers to be unaware of the VED status of their new vehicle.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

155 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Ken Figenus said:
anonymous said:
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This isn't money they are due - they are being paid twice for the same thing. Its a bit like extortion and should be referred to the European Court of Human Rights - or highermadwink! Rotters.
Like and SHARE if you think it's a disgrace!!!

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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lets be honest, when you were young, many of us must have skipped a months tax in between renewal. I certainly did in the 80's and early 90's.

spending my wage on beer was far more interesting.

I do agree the new system makes sense: but it seems daft it can't start on any day of the month.

Ken Figenus

5,708 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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SonicShadow said:
Like and SHARE if you think it's a disgrace!!!
Go Sonic!!!coolcoolrage

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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It can't start on any day of the month, because the computer system isn't configured to do that. If we want it to do that then it will cost a lot of money to do it, so we'll end up paying more anyway to recoup this cost.

As for it being a disgrace blah, blah. The most it can cost is less than £45. That's if you buy a top of the range, high emission amd therefore expensive to run car. A smaller more sensible car will probably cost less than £15. And this only happens when you buy a car. Time it right a,d your rebate will offset this anyway, as you'll get the unused full months back, whereas under the old system that went with the old car

You're all pretty pathetic to be bleating about this.

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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look my car is £30 a year to tax I dont want to just be throwing away £2.50!! hehe

Ken Figenus

5,708 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
It can't start on any day of the month, because the computer system isn't configured to do that. If we want it to do that then it will cost a lot of money to do it, so we'll end up paying more anyway to recoup this cost.

As for it being a disgrace blah, blah. The most it can cost is less than £45. That's if you buy a top of the range, high emission amd therefore expensive to run car. A smaller more sensible car will probably cost less than £15. And this only happens when you buy a car. Time it right a,d your rebate will offset this anyway, as you'll get the unused full months back, whereas under the old system that went with the old car

You're all pretty pathetic to be bleating about this.
You think its about the money? You are wrong. Its about treating your customers fairly. Ohh and yes come to think of it I'd rather buy my lad a football kit for £45 (yes my 'car tax' is over £500pa) than chuck it away for nothing since someone cant be arsed to make their computer aware of the concept of days of the month. So its about both things then. 2 pathetic principles ehh?

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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LoonR1 said:
It can't start on any day of the month, because the computer system isn't configured to do that. If we want it to do that then it will cost a lot of money to do it, so we'll end up paying more anyway to recoup this cost.

As for it being a disgrace blah, blah. The most it can cost is less than £45. That's if you buy a top of the range, high emission amd therefore expensive to run car. A smaller more sensible car will probably cost less than £15. And this only happens when you buy a car. Time it right a,d your rebate will offset this anyway, as you'll get the unused full months back, whereas under the old system that went with the old car

You're all pretty pathetic to be bleating about this.
No matter how many times people try to explain it someone will always moan.


See the post directly before this one.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,400 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Ken Figenus said:
You think its about the money? You are wrong. Its about treating your customers fairly. Ohh and yes come to think of it I'd rather buy my lad a football kit for £45 (yes my 'car tax' is over £500pa) than chuck it away for nothing since someone cant be arsed to make their computer aware of the concept of days of the month. So its about both things then. 2 pathetic principles ehh?
But when you come to sell you will get your outstanding whole months back, whereas in the past the buyer would have said "chuck in the remaining tax and it's a deal" and most of the time you'd comply.

Ken Figenus

5,708 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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A negotiation tool lost. Sorry you cant sell this to me in any way.

Wait till the Council Tax people cotton on to the same principle and you then move house on the 2nd... Then you may feel as tight as me!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Ken Figenus said:
A negotiation tool lost. Sorry you cant sell this to me in any way.

Wait till the Council Tax people cotton on to the same principle and you then move house on the 2nd... Then you may feel as tight as me!
I don't want to "sell it to you", not least as you've already bought it. There are plenty other things to get upset about.

As for the comment about treating customers fairly, the question is "are all customers treated the same?" The answer is yes, so by definition it is fair. You might not like it, but fair is around being equitable, not bending over to their whims.

What car you've got now doesn't matter, it's what car you buy next that matters. All the car that you've got means is that your rebate will be higher. That's the rebate that normally you'd lose. Oh and it's not a negotiation tool either, as nobody can leave the tax on anymore.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Ken Figenus said:
A negotiation tool lost. Sorry you cant sell this to me in any way.

From the seller's point of view it wasn't a negotiating tool. It was give away some free money or not sell the car.

Now the seller is guaranteed a refund.