Assisted suicide..
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longshot said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
longshot said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
longshot said:
'There must be a way to protect my inheritance!'
Why don't you care for her instead?
I will, but she would hate me wiping her arse, she would rather be dead...Why don't you care for her instead?
king stairs then. You heartless b
d.k and miles away from death or losing her marbles..Shuvi McTupya said:
longshot said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
longshot said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
longshot said:
'There must be a way to protect my inheritance!'
Why don't you care for her instead?
I will, but she would hate me wiping her arse, she would rather be dead...Why don't you care for her instead?
king stairs then. You heartless b
d.k and miles away from death or losing her marbles..How about a pic of the house too?
You have started two threads both are about getting your hands on your mums money and you get narky with everyone else.
Whilst I to find it annoying that those that have no assets get there care paid for and those with assets don't. It is where we are.
The other side is why should "we" (taxpayers) pay for your mother (or anybody else) when she has money to pay for here accommodation?
Whilst I to find it annoying that those that have no assets get there care paid for and those with assets don't. It is where we are.
The other side is why should "we" (taxpayers) pay for your mother (or anybody else) when she has money to pay for here accommodation?
Rather than beat up the OP, it seems to me that there are only a couple of questions...
(1) Is the mother mentally unimpaired and capable of making a decision rationally?
(2) Has she been put under any pressure to take the Dignitas trip?
If she is able to make the decision dispassionately ,then I have no problem with it. I have personally set up every possible Do Not Resuscitate order with my family, lawyer and doctor, and if I were facing a miserable, unhealthy, painful future, I would unhesitatingly make the trip. I have left written instructions in the event I cannot make the decision due to a stroke for instance.
Length of life is trivial compared to quality of life. Most of us get old and those who do frequently have chronic health challenges. The idea of being confined to a home , or lying in some hospice waiting for death is not for me personally.
I have no idea what the OPs involvement is and so am not going to pile on the criticism, but would instead just think about the two questions I raised.
(1) Is the mother mentally unimpaired and capable of making a decision rationally?
(2) Has she been put under any pressure to take the Dignitas trip?
If she is able to make the decision dispassionately ,then I have no problem with it. I have personally set up every possible Do Not Resuscitate order with my family, lawyer and doctor, and if I were facing a miserable, unhealthy, painful future, I would unhesitatingly make the trip. I have left written instructions in the event I cannot make the decision due to a stroke for instance.
Length of life is trivial compared to quality of life. Most of us get old and those who do frequently have chronic health challenges. The idea of being confined to a home , or lying in some hospice waiting for death is not for me personally.
I have no idea what the OPs involvement is and so am not going to pile on the criticism, but would instead just think about the two questions I raised.
Drumroll said:
You have started two threads both are about getting your hands on your mums money and you get narky with everyone else.
Whilst I to find it annoying that those that have no assets get there care paid for and those with assets don't. It is where we are.
The other side is why should "we" (taxpayers) pay for your mother (or anybody else) when she has money to pay for here accommodation?
I know, we are being selfish...human nature?Whilst I to find it annoying that those that have no assets get there care paid for and those with assets don't. It is where we are.
The other side is why should "we" (taxpayers) pay for your mother (or anybody else) when she has money to pay for here accommodation?
RDMcG said:
Rather than beat up the OP, it seems to me that there are only a couple of questions...
(1) Is the mother mentally unimpaired and capable of making a decision rationally?
(2) Has she been put under any pressure to take the Dignitas trip?
If she is able to make the decision dispassionately ,then I have no problem with it. I have personally set up every possible Do Not Resuscitate order with my family, lawyer and doctor, and if I were facing a miserable, unhealthy, painful future, I would unhesitatingly make the trip. I have left written instructions in the event I cannot make the decision due to a stroke for instance.
Length of life is trivial compared to quality of life. Most of us get old and those who do frequently have chronic health challenges. The idea of being confined to a home , or lying in some hospice waiting for death is not for me personally.
I have no idea what the OPs involvement is and so am not going to pile on the criticism, but would instead just think about the two questions I raised.
Are you my mother? That sounds like her words! (1) Is the mother mentally unimpaired and capable of making a decision rationally?
(2) Has she been put under any pressure to take the Dignitas trip?
If she is able to make the decision dispassionately ,then I have no problem with it. I have personally set up every possible Do Not Resuscitate order with my family, lawyer and doctor, and if I were facing a miserable, unhealthy, painful future, I would unhesitatingly make the trip. I have left written instructions in the event I cannot make the decision due to a stroke for instance.
Length of life is trivial compared to quality of life. Most of us get old and those who do frequently have chronic health challenges. The idea of being confined to a home , or lying in some hospice waiting for death is not for me personally.
I have no idea what the OPs involvement is and so am not going to pile on the criticism, but would instead just think about the two questions I raised.
She is of sound mind and body, but recently she had a funny turn and phoned me not knowing how she got where she was or what she was there for. I called an ambulance because that is not my mothers normal thing at all.
She was admitted to hospital and it was established that it was just a high blood pressure issue ( she stopped taking the pills) but it scared all of us. It is her idea that my sister and I should have power of attorney and whatever else is required.
But I would be lying if I said I would rather give the house to the local authorities than keep it for myself, if the worst was to happen!
Shuvi McTupya said:
Are you my mother? That sounds like her words!
She is of sound mind and body, but recently she had a funny turn and phoned me not knowing how she got where she was or what she was there for. I called an ambulance because that is not my mothers normal thing at all.
She was admitted to hospital and it was established that it was just a high blood pressure issue ( she stopped taking the pills) but it scared all of us. It is her idea that my sister and I should have power of attorney and whatever else is required.
But I would be lying if I said I would rather give the house to the local authorities than keep it for myself, if the worst was to happen!
I think you should be aware that there has to be a prior written intent by the person going to Dignitass if the person cannot communicate for instance, so planning is important. You cannot simply ship a stroke victim there and have the deed done.She is of sound mind and body, but recently she had a funny turn and phoned me not knowing how she got where she was or what she was there for. I called an ambulance because that is not my mothers normal thing at all.
She was admitted to hospital and it was established that it was just a high blood pressure issue ( she stopped taking the pills) but it scared all of us. It is her idea that my sister and I should have power of attorney and whatever else is required.
But I would be lying if I said I would rather give the house to the local authorities than keep it for myself, if the worst was to happen!
In general the people who go are highly aware of what they are doing. I have known a few who have taken the trip typically because of a debilitating disease, and they had conversations with their families proper in advance of making the decision. This is of course a deeply personal call and I have no advice on the "should" or "should not", merely that it needs to be planned and discussed properly in advance.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Her choice would be to take a one way trip to a Swiss clinic and leave her asset to me.
Why is that illegal?
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It's not illegal. Although I'm surprised your mum would want to waste a few thousand pounds flying to Switzerland, paying their fees etc when she could do the same at home for free. The extra money could then be left to yourself.Why is that illegal?
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I'm only joking of course and I hope your mum lives a long life and has a quick, painless, natural death when the time comes.
But she's only 71 ffs, that's relatively young these days.
RDMcG said:
I think you should be aware that there has to be a prior written intent by the person going to Dignitass if the person cannot communicate for instance, so planning is important. You cannot simply ship a stroke victim there and have the deed done.
In general the people who go are highly aware of what they are doing. I have known a few who have taken the trip typically because of a debilitating disease, and they had conversations with their families proper in advance of making the decision. This is of course a deeply personal call and I have no advice on the "should" or "should not", merely that it needs to be planned and discussed properly in advance.
Thanks for the sensible reply!In general the people who go are highly aware of what they are doing. I have known a few who have taken the trip typically because of a debilitating disease, and they had conversations with their families proper in advance of making the decision. This is of course a deeply personal call and I have no advice on the "should" or "should not", merely that it needs to be planned and discussed properly in advance.
My mother won't be needing that service anytime soon! But she would quite happily sign something that says that would be her preference, should the time come.
In the mean time, we will continue playing golf
Shuvi McTupya said:
That's my mum you are talking about, I love her and she loves me.
You heartless bd.
+1 hear, hear!!! Ignore all the I'm alright jack Tories on here - they obviously hate living in Scotland so much because we have a socialist govt (they're not perfect by a long shot - but imagine what Holyrood would be like run by the Tories). It is my view that your mum has paid enough in taxes/NI over her lifetime to be cared for by the state. Maybe it's time we all paid a little more in tax/NI to cover our old age, but that's another debate entirely.You heartless b
d.I am a stage on than the OP with my mum who's dementia is progressing at a steady pace. She hasn't talked about dignitas, it's not what she wants.
So anyway, me and my sister got power of attorney arranged and have started to work out what fianances are available for her care. Luckily she has some savings and ultimately a nice house in London suburbs so we should have enough money to pay for her care.
Not once has it crossed our minds to do anything as drastic as hiding her money away; we will buy mum the best care we can with her savings and will liquidate assets if necessary.
So anyway, me and my sister got power of attorney arranged and have started to work out what fianances are available for her care. Luckily she has some savings and ultimately a nice house in London suburbs so we should have enough money to pay for her care.
Not once has it crossed our minds to do anything as drastic as hiding her money away; we will buy mum the best care we can with her savings and will liquidate assets if necessary.
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