Has Tyson Fury commited a hate crime
Discussion
mph1977 said:
eatcustard said:
I think I will vote for him just to p
s off you Looney leftwing tts.
What he says is nothing to what hook and and co say about the UK.
And you get upset about him saying what must of us blokes say (when the wife is not listening of cause)
Leave the Gippo to his stupid comments and get on with your life.
don't presume you speak for anyone other than yourself ... s off you Looney leftwing tts.What he says is nothing to what hook and and co say about the UK.
And you get upset about him saying what must of us blokes say (when the wife is not listening of cause)
Leave the Gippo to his stupid comments and get on with your life.
Stop acting like a 10 yo and being offended all the time.
May be people should remember this is about voting for a sports PERSONALITY.
He has won the world championship so I believe by the rules qualifies to go toward for election. People will then vote for him or not based on his personality, on what I have seen of him I don't know anyone who would vote for him so I reacon he has no chance of getting vote in.
I do however believe that I should be allowed to vote for him if I wish, I don't but why take that right away from me?
He has won the world championship so I believe by the rules qualifies to go toward for election. People will then vote for him or not based on his personality, on what I have seen of him I don't know anyone who would vote for him so I reacon he has no chance of getting vote in.
I do however believe that I should be allowed to vote for him if I wish, I don't but why take that right away from me?
mph1977 said:
anonymous said:
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as opposed to ignorant (likely) white, heterosexual, cisgender, 'nilla, male failing to appreciate just how much 'banter' is grossly offensive ... the irony of course being that most of the perverts, deviants and 'sex peoplke' are considerably more respectful than the average 'nilla...
Edited by mph1977 on Thursday 10th December 01:26
DocJock said:
Y'know what mph1977? I find your obsession with applying labels to people and pigeonholing them offensive but I wouldn't dream of demanding you cease that behaviour because I believe in freedom of speech.
I think the anti-offending brigade are driven by their own craving for respect as they usually lack the self respect that normal private lives give.If he were a Pakistani, most of the people claiming his words aren't a 'hate crime' would be screaming for him to be sent back to his religion of peace homeland.
It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly bks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling.
Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly b
ks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling. Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
DonkeyApple said:
If he were a Pakistani, most of the people claiming his words aren't a 'hate crime' would be screaming for him to be sent back to his religion of peace homeland.
It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly bks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling.
Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
And that right there is the problem with the hand wringing liberals. Not content with disagreement alone they have to punish too, so the person knows they're socially unacceptable. It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly b
ks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling. Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
What's even better is when the liberals can't even see that they're liberal.
V6Pushfit said:
.....I'm with eatcustard.
Stop acting like a 10 yo and being offended all the time.
It's not about being offended, it's about ecucustard claiming that "most blokes" talk this way when the wife can't hear. As well as being laughably pathetic (scared the wife would hear eh?) it's also plainly blinkered.Stop acting like a 10 yo and being offended all the time.
_dobbo_ said:
V6Pushfit said:
.....I'm with eatcustard.
Stop acting like a 10 yo and being offended all the time.
It's not about being offended, it's about ecucustard claiming that "most blokes" talk this way when the wife can't hear. As well as being laughably pathetic (scared the wife would hear eh?) it's also plainly blinkered.Stop acting like a 10 yo and being offended all the time.
On another matter, people with 'private-life-dysfunction' tend to have huge mental issues and this inevitably leads to their feeling persecuted at the slightest inference that they are different to the average Joe. Whilst giving these inferences is clearly not advisable its human nature like the 'gingernut' or 'specky' calling at school both of which I have had experience enough. Its time to man-up.
Oh, wait..
ORD said:
Devil2575 said:
ORD said:
If I were gay, I wouldn't enjoy what he said.
You don't need to be gay to not enjoy it. I have close friends who are gay and I didn't like it.V6Pushfit said:
I dont think youre right there at all.
Sorry, you don't think I'm right that most blokes don't talk like this? Some blokes talk like this, some don't. Seems fairly simple to me. Spouting some psychological pseudo babble to make your point is just confirmation bias.
If I heard someone talking like that about a woman, two things would happen. First, I would think he was a knuckle dragging moron, second I would avoid future conversations with that person.
V6Pushfit said:
DocJock said:
Y'know what mph1977? I find your obsession with applying labels to people and pigeonholing them offensive but I wouldn't dream of demanding you cease that behaviour because I believe in freedom of speech.
I think the anti-offending brigade are driven by their own craving for respect as they usually lack the self respect that normal private lives give.Now do us a favour and f
k off...
_dobbo_ said:
Sorry, you don't think I'm right that most blokes don't talk like this?
Some blokes talk like this, some don't. Seems fairly simple to me. Spouting some psychological pseudo babble to make your point is just confirmation bias.
If I heard someone talking like that about a woman, two things would happen. First, I would think he was a knuckle dragging moron, second I would avoid future conversations with that person.
This.Some blokes talk like this, some don't. Seems fairly simple to me. Spouting some psychological pseudo babble to make your point is just confirmation bias.
If I heard someone talking like that about a woman, two things would happen. First, I would think he was a knuckle dragging moron, second I would avoid future conversations with that person.
Devil2575 said:
_dobbo_ said:
Sorry, you don't think I'm right that most blokes don't talk like this?
Some blokes talk like this, some don't. Seems fairly simple to me. Spouting some psychological pseudo babble to make your point is just confirmation bias.
If I heard someone talking like that about a woman, two things would happen. First, I would think he was a knuckle dragging moron, second I would avoid future conversations with that person.
This.Some blokes talk like this, some don't. Seems fairly simple to me. Spouting some psychological pseudo babble to make your point is just confirmation bias.
If I heard someone talking like that about a woman, two things would happen. First, I would think he was a knuckle dragging moron, second I would avoid future conversations with that person.
DonkeyApple said:
If he were a Pakistani, most of the people claiming his words aren't a 'hate crime' would be screaming for him to be sent back to his religion of peace homeland.
It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly bks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling.
Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
+1It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly b
ks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling. Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
P.s. I'd hazard a guess that the "element" of PH that you are accusing of hypocrisy are too thick to notice that you're accusing them of hypocrisy.....
Countdown said:
DonkeyApple said:
If he were a Pakistani, most of the people claiming his words aren't a 'hate crime' would be screaming for him to be sent back to his religion of peace homeland.
It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly bks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling.
Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
+1It's also amusing that almost no one has attacked his view on women just homosexuals.
The chap is a stupid, ill educated oik who as a result has been indoctrinated with far too much of the fairly b
ks story stuff. The fact that some people feel that to point out that he is a backward little savage makes someone a 'liberal' is slightly baffling. Of course he cannot be considered for some form of sporting prize in this country with those views. He is free to have those views and frankly, he is free to speak them and advocate them but nothing should be done to actually endorse them.
Removing him from the competition does not silence him or penalise him. It merely recognises that none of these views are sociably acceptable or correct.
P.s. I'd hazard a guess that the "element" of PH that you are accusing of hypocrisy are too thick to notice that you're accusing them of hypocrisy.....
My point is that I can disagree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it and liberalism is starting to become pretty totalitarian and intolerant when it forces everyone to comply with accepted thought or face the consequences professionally and publicly. (This is what this is)
IANAL but my understanding of what constitutes a hate crime is this.
1 - A standard crime (assault, burglary, vandalism et al) aggravated by some prejudice on the grounds of race, sex, creed, ability or sexuality.
2 - Inciting of violence towards people based on the same prejudices.
3 - Direct discrimination or harassment owing to those prejudices.
4 - Saying something with the clear intent of causing alarm or distress.
Merely stating one's opinion without any of those things above is patently not a hate crime and no amount of gnashing of teeth and bawling about it is going to change that.
You have the right to be offended but you do not have the right to silence any and all opinions that you disagree with.
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