Employer healthcare referral
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XFDreamer said:
I'm not going to a doctors appointment because of my illness though. I am fit and well now.
The company require me to attend an appointment to make sure I'm not taking the piss. (I'm not and have proper medical certificates from my own doctor to prove it)
It's the same as the company asking me to attend a meeting at another company depot and expecting me to provide my own transport. My insurance policy doesn't cover me as confirmed by them earlier.
I will not be changing my policy to include business cover regardless of any cost to me. If they require me to go then they will have to get me there.
I've had very similar situations over the years. In my job we have to have medicals for things like working in confined spaces or working in an aircraft when it's pressurised on the ground. The company used to make appointments at the local Nuffield Hospital and expected up to make our own way there. A few drove themselves but most declined as we wouldn't have been covered by our insurance. Company then provided a mini bus.The company require me to attend an appointment to make sure I'm not taking the piss. (I'm not and have proper medical certificates from my own doctor to prove it)
It's the same as the company asking me to attend a meeting at another company depot and expecting me to provide my own transport. My insurance policy doesn't cover me as confirmed by them earlier.
I will not be changing my policy to include business cover regardless of any cost to me. If they require me to go then they will have to get me there.
Perhaps more similar to your current situation is that we also have regular occy health screening. Should anything crop up, we get asked to attend a follow up appointment at the occy health companies regional office about 25 miles away to see their doctor.
My current boss couldn't get his head around the fact that I was attending at the companies request, and it wasn't just a regular doctors appointment. When I pointed out my car insurance wouldn't cover me, he just said don't mention why you're travelling if anything happens!
I ended up getting put on the companies insurance, and taking one of their vehicles, but I know several other lads in work who've taken their own cars and didn't realise about the insurance issue.
Since the union got involved there's now a procedure to follow should you get any appointments off site.
Why should an employee have to pay up to go on company business?
eccles said:
I've had very similar situations over the years. In my job we have to have medicals for things like working in confined spaces or working in an aircraft when it's pressurised on the ground. The company used to make appointments at the local Nuffield Hospital and expected up to make our own way there. A few drove themselves but most declined as we wouldn't have been covered by our insurance. Company then provided a mini bus.
Perhaps more similar to your current situation is that we also have regular occy health screening. Should anything crop up, we get asked to attend a follow up appointment at the occy health companies regional office about 25 miles away to see their doctor.
My current boss couldn't get his head around the fact that I was attending at the companies request, and it wasn't just a regular doctors appointment. When I pointed out my car insurance wouldn't cover me, he just said don't mention why you're travelling if anything happens!
I ended up getting put on the companies insurance, and taking one of their vehicles, but I know several other lads in work who've taken their own cars and didn't realise about the insurance issue.
Since the union got involved there's now a procedure to follow should you get any appointments off site.
Why should an employee have to pay up to go on company business?
Thanks Eccles, someone who see's my point of view.Perhaps more similar to your current situation is that we also have regular occy health screening. Should anything crop up, we get asked to attend a follow up appointment at the occy health companies regional office about 25 miles away to see their doctor.
My current boss couldn't get his head around the fact that I was attending at the companies request, and it wasn't just a regular doctors appointment. When I pointed out my car insurance wouldn't cover me, he just said don't mention why you're travelling if anything happens!
I ended up getting put on the companies insurance, and taking one of their vehicles, but I know several other lads in work who've taken their own cars and didn't realise about the insurance issue.
Since the union got involved there's now a procedure to follow should you get any appointments off site.
Why should an employee have to pay up to go on company business?
What if the worst was to happen and I drove to an appointment and I was involved in an accident or the car caught fire or got stolen?
I'm not the chairman of ICI, I'm a jumped up truck driver with a bit of responsibility, that's all.
Seems to me that if you are attending a medical appointment and have an incident which results in an insurance claim you just tell the insurer you were attending the medical appointment. Surely that's the end of the story?
What happens if as part of your employment you get private medical care, or an annual medical screening? Does attending appointments count as work as work has paid?
Its not as if your driving to a medical appointment is something that your employer is financially benefitting from as they would be if you were driving to a meeting, or carrying goods for them etc
What happens if as part of your employment you get private medical care, or an annual medical screening? Does attending appointments count as work as work has paid?
Its not as if your driving to a medical appointment is something that your employer is financially benefitting from as they would be if you were driving to a meeting, or carrying goods for them etc
XFDreamer said:
Exactly, I am no longer ill so what a doctor's appointment is going to prove is beyond me.
I am very much capable of doing my job although I wasn't at the time mainly because the medication I was taking which advised against driving or operating machinery.
Hard to do when you're a HGV driver.
Have you asked them what their doctor intends to investigate?I am very much capable of doing my job although I wasn't at the time mainly because the medication I was taking which advised against driving or operating machinery.
Hard to do when you're a HGV driver.
Has your own GP certified you are now fit to work?
Chrisgr31 said:
Seems to me that if you are attending a medical appointment and have an incident which results in an insurance claim you just tell the insurer you were attending the medical appointment. Surely that's the end of the story?
What happens if as part of your employment you get private medical care, or an annual medical screening? Does attending appointments count as work as work has paid?
Its not as if your driving to a medical appointment is something that your employer is financially benefitting from as they would be if you were driving to a meeting, or carrying goods for them etc
The company made the appointment, not the OP, therefore it's company business. What happens if as part of your employment you get private medical care, or an annual medical screening? Does attending appointments count as work as work has paid?
Its not as if your driving to a medical appointment is something that your employer is financially benefitting from as they would be if you were driving to a meeting, or carrying goods for them etc
XFDreamer said:
Vaud said:
Take this the right way but you come across as having a massive chip on your shoulder.
Man up.. :-)
Class 1 would probably cost you nothing. Given it's your job (potentially) at stake, even if it is £20 admin fee, pay it and look at the big picture... lest you cut off your nose to spite the face.
Principles are super, right up to the point you don't have an income... save them for the big issues in life.
Vaud, I didn't mean it to come across that way.Man up.. :-)
Class 1 would probably cost you nothing. Given it's your job (potentially) at stake, even if it is £20 admin fee, pay it and look at the big picture... lest you cut off your nose to spite the face.
Principles are super, right up to the point you don't have an income... save them for the big issues in life.
I have to be honest and say I'm not really interested in attending this meeting. It's fairly pointless, they can't sack me for being off sick with a genuine illness and its because I've triggered a stage in the company sickness policy which has to be followed up.
I think maybe the company ought to "man up" and provide me with the means to attend the appointment they so badly need me to go to.
"It's because I've triggered a stage in the company sickness policy which has to be followed up"
Hmmm, maybe but I wouldn't bet on it.
Frankly, if they're looking for a way to get rid I wouldn't be at all surprised.....
REALIST123 said:
XFDreamer said:
Vaud said:
Take this the right way but you come across as having a massive chip on your shoulder.
Man up.. :-)
Class 1 would probably cost you nothing. Given it's your job (potentially) at stake, even if it is £20 admin fee, pay it and look at the big picture... lest you cut off your nose to spite the face.
Principles are super, right up to the point you don't have an income... save them for the big issues in life.
Vaud, I didn't mean it to come across that way.Man up.. :-)
Class 1 would probably cost you nothing. Given it's your job (potentially) at stake, even if it is £20 admin fee, pay it and look at the big picture... lest you cut off your nose to spite the face.
Principles are super, right up to the point you don't have an income... save them for the big issues in life.
I have to be honest and say I'm not really interested in attending this meeting. It's fairly pointless, they can't sack me for being off sick with a genuine illness and its because I've triggered a stage in the company sickness policy which has to be followed up.
I think maybe the company ought to "man up" and provide me with the means to attend the appointment they so badly need me to go to.
"It's because I've triggered a stage in the company sickness policy which has to be followed up"
Hmmm, maybe but I wouldn't bet on it.
Frankly, if they're looking for a way to get rid I wouldn't be at all surprised.....
Vaud said:
Our company spends a lot of it's time and investment automating to get rid of many employees.
The trucks won't drive themselves............yet.Do you have any idea how hard it is to find properly qualified, experienced HGV drivers?
Where I live they need us more than we need them (fortunately).
Edited because I misread Vaud's post.
Edited by XFDreamer on Wednesday 13th January 20:34
XFDreamer said:
I'm still waiting to be contacted.
My last certificate expired and I had no reason to get another one as I was well again.
I suspect they want a Fit to Work note i.e. a note from your doctor stating that you are now fit to return to work. They might want this for their insurance, especially when you are a driver.My last certificate expired and I had no reason to get another one as I was well again.
XFDreamer said:
The trucks won't drive themselves............yet.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find properly qualified, experienced HGV drivers?
Sorry, yes, I agree and you have a thankless task surrounded by terrible driving. My point was a bit flippant and restricted to my industry - sorry.Do you have any idea how hard it is to find properly qualified, experienced HGV drivers?
Busa mav said:
If I were an employer and was stuck with somebody with the attitude of the OP I would be doing everything I could to find a way to get rid of him.
OP, you really don't deserve to be employed .
Get real! I do my job well and to my full ability. I always meet my requirements and targets and frequently get praised by my managers.OP, you really don't deserve to be employed .
I only asked a question about car insurance.
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