Employer healthcare referral

[eccles]

Busa mav said:

If I were an employer and was stuck with somebody with the attitude of the OP I would be doing everything I could to find a way to get rid of him.

OP, you really don't deserve to be employed .

What a strange attitude!

[XFDreamer]

eccles said:

Busa mav said:

If I were an employer and was stuck with somebody with the attitude of the OP I would be doing everything I could to find a way to get rid of him.

OP, you really don't deserve to be employed .

What a strange attitude!

That's what I thought. He's either the perfect employee or he's a scrounger.

Who cares?

[eccles]

XFDreamer said:

eccles said:

Busa mav said:

If I were an employer and was stuck with somebody with the attitude of the OP I would be doing everything I could to find a way to get rid of him.

OP, you really don't deserve to be employed .

What a strange attitude!

That's what I thought. He's either the perfect employee or he's a scrounger.

Who cares?

Sound more like the average PH bearded director type who think all employees should tug their forelock every morning in gratitude at having a job and should do the companies bidding even if involves breaking the law!

[XFDreamer]

Granfondo said:

XFDreamer said:

Granfondo said:

99 times out of 100 the worst bit about having a buisiness is the employees!

Yup! Want to explain how a business would be one without it's employees?

less stressed!

To be honest I sympathise.

Although I need a HGV and CPC to do my job I'm in a supervisory position and sometimes I wonder how some of the drivers I come across find their way home.

[55palfers]

Regards the insurance aspect.

You are not travelling to do any work surely. It's just a medical appointment arranged by your employer.

If they were sending you for some free physio following a back injury, would you have a problem attending that?

[XFDreamer]

55palfers said:

Regards the insurance aspect.

You are not travelling to do any work surely. It's just a medical appointment arranged by your employer.

If they were sending you for some free physio following a back injury, would you have a problem attending that?

I agree.

But this is something the company have told me this is something that has to be done and according to my insurance company I will not be covered.

I have no problem attending but I won't break the law.

[surveyor_101]

eccles said:

What a strange attitude!

No I have to say having someone in long term sick is a pain for many employers. It's distrupitive for other staff and getting temp people is never ideal. If an employer has stuck by you and asked for you to attend a medical appointment, turn round and say you want paying seems a strange attitude to me. I would be cooperating as this appointment may offer some help, if not it will confirm want you have said.

[XFDreamer]

surveyor_101 said:

No I have to say having someone in long term sick is a pain for many employers. It's distrupitive for other staff and getting temp people is never ideal. If an employer has stuck by you and asked for you to attend a medical appointment, turn round and say you want paying seems a strange attitude to me. I would be cooperating as this appointment may offer some help, if not it will confirm want you have said.

I have not been long term sick. I had 2 weeks off before Christmas. But because I have been sick twice before for a week at a time in the previous 18 months it's triggered a process in my companies sickness policy which means referral to an occupational health company.

I'm more than happy to attend.

I'm happy to attend in company time and I'm happy to have a telephone appointment. If I'm expected to attend in my own time then I could be in breach of European tacho rules that state during my rest periods I must be able to freely dispose of my own time. Attending a company appointment could be viewed as a breach of that.

And I wouldn't be insured to drive my car to any appointment unless it took place at my work place.

[surveyor_101]

XFDreamer said:

I have not been long term sick. I had 2 weeks off before Christmas. But because I have been sick twice before for a week at a time in the previous 18 months it's triggered a process in my companies sickness policy which means referral to an occupational health company.

I'm more than happy to attend.

I'm happy to attend in company time and I'm happy to have a telephone appointment. If I'm expected to attend in my own time then I could be in breach of European tacho rules that state during my rest periods I must be able to freely dispose of my own time. Attending a company appointment could be viewed as a breach of that.

And I wouldn't be insured to drive my car to any appointment unless it took place at my work place.

It's up to you but in my experience of people who have issues being sick and then are awkward when the company try and do their job it normally ends in tears for that person.

It's like your fishing for reasons not to attend.

You can play the oh that beaches this eu dirtective but it's one appointment and that may help you back to work. Once a company decide you are a pain in butt its very hard to change the view. Sick records do not add to your cv so your best off being amenable and keeping them onside.

Your car is insured for sd and p, you don't need class 1 or 2 to visit an occupational therapist.

[Vaud]

surveyor_101 said:

You can play the oh that beaches this eu dirtective but it's one appointment and that may help you back to work. Once a company decide you are a pain in butt its very hard to change the view. Sick records do not add to your cv so your best off being amenable and keeping them onside.

That was roughly my take. A level of pragmatism is needed, even if they technically should be covering it.

[XFDreamer]

surveyor_101 said:

Your car is insured for sd and p, you don't need class 1 or 2 to visit an occupational therapist.

With respect, according to my insurance company I would not be covered to attend. Their words not mine. Why should I take any chances? I'm sure they wouldn't change their mind because some bloke on an internet forum said I was covered.

As I've said, many, many times I'm happy to do whatever the company requires of me. I've nothing to hide. My sickness record over 10 years of employment stands up with anyone else's.

But why should I chance breaking the law when many other options are available to my employers?

[XFDreamer]

Vaud said:

That was roughly my take. A level of pragmatism is needed, even if they technically should be covering it.

Technicalities can make the difference between a clean licence and one with 6 points and an insurance endorsement on it.

[egor110]

XFDreamer said:

I have not been long term sick. I had 2 weeks off before Christmas. But because I have been sick twice before for a week at a time in the previous 18 months it's triggered a process in my companies sickness policy which means referral to an occupational health company.

I'm more than happy to attend.

I'm happy to attend in company time and I'm happy to have a telephone appointment. If I'm expected to attend in my own time then I could be in breach of European tacho rules that state during my rest periods I must be able to freely dispose of my own time. Attending a company appointment could be viewed as a breach of that.

And I wouldn't be insured to drive my car to any appointment unless it took place at my work place.

Do you work for a company that delivers stuff and has a large fleet of red vehicles?

Sounds very much like there sickness policy.

[Vaud]

XFDreamer said:

Vaud said:

That was roughly my take. A level of pragmatism is needed, even if they technically should be covering it.

Technicalities can make the difference between a clean licence and one with 6 points and an insurance endorsement on it.

I said pragmatism. As in, pay for class 1 if needed.

I suggest that you escalate with your insurer above the call handler. I expect you may get a different answer?

[XFDreamer]

egor110 said:

Do you work for a company that delivers stuff and has a large fleet of red vehicles?

Sounds very much like there sickness policy.

No.

But it sounds like we've copied their sickness policy.

[crazy about cars]

OP, correct me if I'm wrong but your major issue is that your car insurance wouldn't cover you if you drive to the medical appointment?
If so is taking public transport possible? Speak to your employer if you can claim back any expenses.

[XFDreamer]

Vaud said:

I said pragmatism. As in, pay for class 1 if needed.

I suggest that you escalate with your insurer above the call handler. I expect you may get a different answer?

Vaud, the company I work for has a deal with a local hire car company where they get cars for £20 a day. We also have a company van. They could get the doctor to come to my workplace. They could do it all over the phone. If it's local I could walk, or ride my bike or catch the bus. There are lot's of options.

They don't need me to up my insurance cover for their benefit.

[XFDreamer]

crazy about cars said:

OP, correct me if I'm wrong but your major issue is that your car insurance wouldn't cover you if you drive to the medical appointment?
If so is taking public transport possible? Speak to your employer if you can claim back any expenses.

You're not wrong.

See above for lot's of options.

[Vaud]

XFDreamer said:

Vaud, the company I work for has a deal with a local hire car company where they get cars for £20 a day. We also have a company van. They could get the doctor to come to my workplace. They could do it all over the phone. If it's local I could walk, or ride my bike or catch the bus. There are lot's of options.

They don't need me to up my insurance cover for their benefit.

As per your original post, I suggest you wait to know if actually need to travel.

You seem to be getting very wound up by a hypothetical situation and boxing yourself into a mental corner over it, which will probably come across to your employer in any discussions?

[crazy about cars]

XFDreamer said:

crazy about cars said:

OP, correct me if I'm wrong but your major issue is that your car insurance wouldn't cover you if you drive to the medical appointment?
If so is taking public transport possible? Speak to your employer if you can claim back any expenses.

You're not wrong.

See above for lot's of options.

Yes, just read that after I've posted. We have a sickness policy at work too and in most circumstances we can take it on "company time".
I do know of a colleague who's been off long term on stress and he had to attend a few medical appointments scheduled by work. AFAIK he's took his own car (under his own policy) to those appointments.
If you are concerned I'd suggest speaking to your HR department for further advise.