Ex-resident still using my address for...

Ex-resident still using my address for...

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Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Numerous things. Such as tax returns, mobile phone contracts and finance.

If I'd have moved in the last year, maybe I'd have that he hasn't had time to change address. But it's been 8 years.

Over the years I've returned them to sender saying he doesn't live here, I've never opened anything.

Today I received another letter, brown envelope from 'tax returned' registered in London.

I'm getting pretty sick of it to be honest. Are there any legal implications with him using my address for tax returns/Mobile bills/finance? Where do I stand if there are any comebacks? Should I just open everything and look at his stuff?

I tried to locate him but got no where, all I know is he moved to a pub fairly localish but that was 8 years ago. I can't even remember his partners name.


Jonno02

2,246 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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If it was official documentation such as finance documents etc, I'd be opening them by now, phoning the company and explaining that somebody is fraudulently using your address. They'll contact the person in question and that should st him up a bit.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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You'll probably find that most of the stuff is actually just junk mail that's been made to look "important".

Personally after having tried the "not known at this address" route already I'd just put it in the bin and not worry about it.

Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Thanks, I've sent this last one back and sent the company an email.

I'll just see if anything else comes now and judge it as you have advised, if it looks important I'll ring the company up, junk I'll bin it or just return it.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Wow, have you really been sending stuff back for 8 years or have I misread your post? yikes

I got pretty fed up over a mere 15 months with returning mail (mostly from DCAs) as RTS. Despite there being an 'if undelivered' return address on all of them the message fell on deaf ears and the paper chase continued. The addressee turned out to be a previous tenant at the property and had done a runner. The defaulter was a female foreign (EU) national. From that point on I opened everything which included a missive from her country's Consulate in the UK! I contacted all of the letter writers to tell them what I had found out (she had absconded over 2 years previously) and that I had no knowledge whatever of her whereabouts. I suggested to the DCAs that she might well have fled the UK to her country of origin and wished them luck tracing her. I haven't been bothered once since then.

Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Yep, 8 years. Started with about 2 a month, now it's one every 6 months. But the ones we get seem to be tax related, mobile phone or finance.

I think the finance ones may have just been spam stuff.

The worst thing is that I know he is local, hopefully I'll find out where he lives and can have a word.

You sound like you sorted it pretty quick, advice taken. smile

Annoying though isn't it.

FiF

44,072 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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It amazes me what people fail to redirect to their new address. Payslips from the army being one example. Eventually had to speak to the regiment to get it sorted. Think someone was in for some words of advice after that.

One thing our postie told me about wrongly delivered mail, even if they KNOW it's wrong, they HAVE to deliver it to the address as written, and not the address where they know the individual lives. Correct thing to do is to mark it not at this address and stick it back in the post. Don't take it round to the correct place as nobody bothers to change anything and you are stuck with redirecting it forever.

tony wright

1,004 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Year and a half for me, all their stuff go's straight in the bin now.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Lgfst said:
You sound like you sorted it pretty quick, advice taken. smile
Needed to nip it in the bud before I had to start dealing with enforcement officers (aka bailiffs/HCEOs back then) pounding on my door seeking to enforce an uncontested County Court judgement or, even worse, a High Court Writ (at that time Fi Fa rather than Control) against her. From what I gleaned I think I was just in time!

Lgfst said:
Annoying though isn't it.
Very! smile

FiF said:
It amazes me what people fail to redirect to their new address.
Indeed. But some folk fail to do so quite deliberately.

FiF said:
One thing our postie told me about wrongly delivered mail, even if they KNOW it's wrong, they HAVE to deliver it to the address as written, and not the address where they know the individual lives. Correct thing to do is to mark it not at this address and stick it back in the post. Don't take it round to the correct place as nobody bothers to change anything and you are stuck with redirecting it forever.
Point taken. However if it's someone local and I know the person I'll mention politely that I'll oblige them for two to three weeks max but only at my own convenience. I won't be responsible for the consequences of any delay and they need to set up a redirection pdq and, where necessary, notify the sender to update their database (it's amazing how many don't). At the end of the stipulated period it will all be returned 'Addressee not known, RTS'. The ball is then in their court. I won't accept anything for which a signature is needed.

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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a house a mile away has a similar house name, and similar postcode, ours ends in G theirs ends D,

we drop mail to them and they drop mail to us,

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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As someone who has worked for RM I can tell you that sending any undelivered post back as "return to sender/not known at this address" etc is a complete waste of time as it just sits in a pile for months then eventually gets binned. It never goes back to the sender so just bin it.

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Having moved last year and had problems with this, I always open the post, get on the phone to the company and tell them I've had a letter from them for so and so and that they don't live here any more.

DVLA, HMRC etc, they never see bother I've opened the post. They usually say can you put return to sender on the envelope but it just goes in the bin.

Usually doing that one will stop the problem, they can update their address info there and then saying don't sent post to my address.

It has worked well and can really reduce your junk mail if you're bothered by getting stuff addressed to other people - which I am as I plan to live here a while!

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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bobtail4x4 said:
a house a mile away has a similar house name, and similar postcode, ours ends in G theirs ends D,

we drop mail to them and they drop mail to us,
Strange isn't it, many people on this forum cast doubt on others when they say they haven't got their speeding ticket in the post, yet many of us got wrongly delivered mail!

wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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The house I live in was bought by my family in 1982 from an 81 year old lady whose father had it built in 1901.

She moved to the UK from Kenya whenever there was some trouble there and the British were chucked out. 1960s/70s I guess?

We still get letters for her forwarded from her old address in Africa despite attempts by my Dad 30-odd years ago to forward the letters to her new address. She moved to the Caribbean for the last years of her life. If she was alive she'd be 115 years old.

I got post for her just before Christmas.



Winco

22 posts

104 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Another thing to do is check your credit files to ensure there is nothing listed because of a previous resident that could affect you.

dudleybloke

19,819 posts

186 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Do any of the mobile phone letters have his number on so you can call him?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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All that jazz said:
As someone who has worked for RM I can tell you that sending any undelivered post back as "return to sender/not known at this address" etc is a complete waste of time as it just sits in a pile for months then eventually gets binned. It never goes back to the sender so just bin it.
Really how did a credit card of mine get stopped because my tenant sent the mail back not known at this address. I called the card company and they said we had posted back not know at this address?

Opening mail is an offence I believe so tread carefully.

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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it's not an offence to open the post if it came through your letterbox afaik. Besides, why would you need to check the envelope is addressed to you if it was delivered to you? Open them, every time.

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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All that jazz said:
As someone who has worked for RM I can tell you that sending any undelivered post back as "return to sender/not known at this address" etc is a complete waste of time as it just sits in a pile for months then eventually gets binned. It never goes back to the sender so just bin it.
Absolute rubbish.

I deliver to a trading estate and regularly get returned letters that have been returned to sender.

When it gets back to the postie he sticks a sticker on it saying why it has been returned then it gets sent back to the returned address.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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egor110 said:
All that jazz said:
As someone who has worked for RM I can tell you that sending any undelivered post back as "return to sender/not known at this address" etc is a complete waste of time as it just sits in a pile for months then eventually gets binned. It never goes back to the sender so just bin it.
Absolute rubbish.

I deliver to a trading estate and regularly get returned letters that have been returned to sender.

When it gets back to the postie he sticks a sticker on it saying why it has been returned then it gets sent back to the returned address.
Indeed I have been inside a mailing centre where they were going through all the returned post deleting the addreses from the database.