Ex-resident still using my address for...

Ex-resident still using my address for...

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EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Write "Not at this address - Return to sender" in one pen colour.

Then get your wife to write "Possible mail fraud" in a different colour.

Just maybe, when it arrives back with the sender, a bod there assumes the wife's bit was written by someone else in the organisation and starts actually doing something with the info. (shrug)

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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EskimoArapaho said:
Write "Not at this address - Return to sender" in one pen colour.

Then get your wife to write "Possible mail fraud" in a different colour.

Just maybe, when it arrives back with the sender, a bod there assumes the wife's bit was written by someone else in the organisation and starts actually doing something with the info. (shrug)
Just not at this address will do no need for the rest.

All mail gone away/not at this address is automatically returned to sender provided theres a return address.

Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I've been sending them back to sender with "does not live at this address" for years.

Whilst it may seem like a drama, the reason I became concerned is they started getting more important ie tax returns etc. Also the fact it's irritating.

I'll be sending the new one back as well.

I now have most of his personal details so getting somewhere with companies shouldn't be a problem.

But part of me thinks this could have been a simple mistake. Postcodes are very similar.

dsmith1990

1,264 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Did you write to L&G when returning the letter or phone them directly?

Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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dsmith1990 said:
Did you write to L&G when returning the letter or phone them directly?
I wrote to L&G directly (email)

dsmith1990

1,264 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Hopefully you get a response...if something else comes through drop me a PM and I'll see if I can get a decent contact number as I work for them.

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Lgfst said:
But part of me thinks this could have been a simple mistake. Postcodes are very similar.
Poor chap is too frightened (of you) to collect his post?

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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egor110 said:
Just not at this address will do no need for the rest.

All mail gone away/not at this address is automatically returned to sender provided theres a return address.
(sigh) Any chance you'll answer the question I asked you above?

Lgfst

Original Poster:

391 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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soad said:
Poor chap is too frightened (of you) to collect his post?
I doubt it. I'd be happy to take his post and point out the mistake, I'm a nice person, I just don't know if he is...?

EDIT if he used to live here I think the simple mistake could be wrong. I mean who gets their new address wrong for 7 years

Edited by Lgfst on Wednesday 10th February 17:32

KevinC6Corvette

29 posts

107 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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EskimoArapaho said:
egor110 said:
Just not at this address will do no need for the rest.

All mail gone away/not at this address is automatically returned to sender provided theres a return address.
(sigh) Any chance you'll answer the question I asked you above?
I doubt it, I have yet to see a useful post from this person.

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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EskimoArapaho said:
egor110 said:
Royal mail aren't a charity .

If you don't like it use another service.
How exactly does he do that? This is post that other people are sending TO his business. Many of those people won't even be known to him. He can't decide all of that post should magically be redirected by A N Other service.
This question?

The answer is the same just write gone away on the envelope and chuck it back in any post box, let the postie do the next stage.

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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egor110 said:
This question?

The answer is the same just write gone away on the envelope and chuck it back in any post box, let the postie do the next stage.
Do keep up. The question I asked you right after you claimed that Royal Mail was not a charity, and the PHer could use someone else to redirect his post.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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egor110 said:
All that jazz said:
As someone who has worked for RM I can tell you that sending any undelivered post back as "return to sender/not known at this address" etc is a complete waste of time as it just sits in a pile for months then eventually gets binned. It never goes back to the sender so just bin it.
Absolute rubbish.

I deliver to a trading estate and regularly get returned letters that have been returned to sender.

When it gets back to the postie he sticks a sticker on it saying why it has been returned then it gets sent back to the returned address.
Yep, we used to get previous owners mail so it was all stuffed back in the post box as "not at this address".

Never had repeat mail from any of them since.

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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egor110 said:
EskimoArapaho said:
egor110 said:
Royal mail aren't a charity .

If you don't like it use another service.
How exactly does he do that? This is post that other people are sending TO his business. Many of those people won't even be known to him. He can't decide all of that post should magically be redirected by A N Other service.
This question?

The answer is the same just write gone away on the envelope and chuck it back in any post box, let the postie do the next stage.
Re using another service well there is no other letter delivery company as there's no money in it hence why TNT have stopped delivering letters.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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If you collect enough information from the various letters then you could take on his identity, call the companies sending the letters, and officially change his address to the local prison/pub/post office/other company that keeps sending him letters.

You could get them to all write to each other smile

Hol

8,412 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Write deceased on them, when you return them next time.


Big maInstream organisation have a process for deceased persons and that includes blocking mail from going out as its a higher reputational risk for them.



arfursleep

818 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Hol said:
Write deceased on them, when you return them next time.


Big maInstream organisation have a process for deceased persons and that includes blocking mail from going out as its a higher reputational risk for them.
i'll try that.

We've been receiving mail for previous owners of our house since Sept 2013. They left no forwarding address or contract details when they fecked off back to Ireland and we've discovered why. I reckon they left owing over £25k to various credit cards, banks etc and we're still getting new letters now from accounts they've obviously stopped paying in to.

I've tried writing, calling, visiting the various banks etc that I can but hasn't stoppped letters arriving. Rang a couple of debt collections agencies who promised to remove details once i explained but we're still getting letters from them.

Interesting that if you want to get your hands on that kind of cash, it seems pretty easy to do - borrow it, move it and go!

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Good Heavens!

This thread is giving me flashbacks to my time in an army 'Unit Post Room'. More mail arrived for officers and soldiers who'd been posted away or left the service, than for those living in the barracks.

Because I was bound by a strict set of rules I was unable to dispose of any such mail. A file was kept with forwarding addresses, and the forms stated quite clearly that forwarding action would be taken for no more than 6 months from date of departure. After that, it was official stickers and back into the Royal Mail system. Initially, I played nicer than I needed to, often keeping the forwarding addresses beyond the six months, but it took up so much time that in the end I had a purge on the forwarding file, and shredded out-of-date forms. I even had complaints from posted personnel moaning that I'd suddenly stopped forwarding their mail! That was all nipped in the bud with a month or two of doing things exactly by the book. That's when folk started to realise how much they were relying on my goodwill.

I can't say that I know the law on the subject, but I know the MOD's rules, and that was strictly "no opening of mail" except under a few (security based) exemptions, and then only in the presence of an authorised officer.

Not much help to a householder really. We still get a few Christmas Cards each year addressed to the previous owner of our house. She passed away about 18 months before we moved in, and we've been here over 12 years. We opened the first few, hoping that there would be a return address so we could write and let the sender know, but now they go into the bin. When we first moved in we tried taking mail round to her family, who were the sellers for the house, but they wouldn't even open the door to speak to us (weird, when we could see them in the lounge watching TV) so we dropped the mail we'd taken round through the letterbox, and then RTS'd the rest of it. They were a strange bunch by all accounts. Apparently we upset them by insisting the garage was cleared out before we exchanged contracts. The cheek of us! Wanting an entire garage stuffed to the ceiling with furniture and household rubbish cleared before we moved in!

oldcynic

2,166 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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yellowjack said:
We still get a few Christmas Cards each year addressed to the previous owner of our house.
We got some rather good quality cards addressed to people we'd never heard of several years in a row. I just put them up with the other cards - seemed a shame to waste them!

(If there had been return addresses, I'd have sent them back.)

myvision

1,945 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Don't ignore them and just returning to sender I ended up with bailiffs turning up for the people I bought my house from they'd gone back to Canada owing a small fortune.
Wasn't a happy time as I was away the Mrs had to face them and she is as quiet as a mouse took quite a bit to sort out.
They knew what they were doing when they left and they left the house in a st mess that's a different story bds I hate them.