Hull speed cameras sites 'picked to make most money'
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That's one way of looking at it however, in reality, they're placed where they will catch the most motorists breaking the law and therefore where they are most effective as a punishment*.
*We all know in reality they're not a deterrent - perhaps at best a very brief one.
*We all know in reality they're not a deterrent - perhaps at best a very brief one.
Edited by MrBarry123 on Friday 12th February 14:51
Disgusting. I've noticed the police doing this more and more recently.
They have started putting policemen outside bars on a friday and saturday night. And they have put loads of police at football matches. All they are interested in is catching people breaking the law and deal with them. It's disgusting and I will be writing to my MP.
They have started putting policemen outside bars on a friday and saturday night. And they have put loads of police at football matches. All they are interested in is catching people breaking the law and deal with them. It's disgusting and I will be writing to my MP.
Edited by photosnob on Friday 12th February 16:49
photosnob said:
Disgusting. I've noticed the police doing this more and more recently.
They have started putting policemen outside bars on a friday and saturday night. And they have put loads of police at football matches. All they are interested in is catching people breaking the law and deal with them. It's disgusting and I will be writing to my MP.
Ah, the old "the law is the law and all laws are good and breaking one law is the same as breaking any other" argument.They have started putting policemen outside bars on a friday and saturday night. And they have put loads of police at football matches. All they are interested in is catching people breaking the law and deal with them. It's disgusting and I will be writing to my MP.
Edited by photosnob on Friday 12th February 16:49
Are you suggesting that getting pissed and having a fight on a friday night is equivalent to, say, doing 60 on a bit of 50 dual carriageway? Morally or in terms of the harm caused?
CrutyRammers said:
Ah, the old "the law is the law and all laws are good and breaking one law is the same as breaking any other" argument.
Are you suggesting that getting pissed and having a fight on a friday night is equivalent to, say, doing 60 on a bit of 50 dual carriageway? Morally or in terms of the harm caused?
Except no one is saying that. Repeatedly fight in town and you will go to prison. Repeatedly speed and you will lose your ability to legally drive for a bit. If something isn't that bad there is a lower sentence, if it is very bad it has a big sentence. Are you suggesting that getting pissed and having a fight on a friday night is equivalent to, say, doing 60 on a bit of 50 dual carriageway? Morally or in terms of the harm caused?
HantsRat said:
It's one guy claiming this. Does not mean it's true. The force will probably have crash/injury figures from the static camera sites on their website somewhere.
He might be right but as you've said, one bloke making a claim isn't fact.I'm far more interested in who chooses the location of the mobile camera vans.
Their locations and current choice of colour (dark blue mostly) seems especially cynical to me. Particularly if taking into account the attitude of idiots like Olly Murs, the Beds Police and Crime Commisioner.
Meh, they are pocket money cameras, for real earners try Nottingham.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire...
All that jazz said:
He mentions the Daltry Rd flyover as being the most profitable. Whereabouts is the camera? I go over most nights in and out of Hull on Clive Sullivan Way (A63) and never seen one. 
Its not a fixed camera. Its one of (the most?) popular sites for the mobile camera van. Usually at the bottom of the flyover, just before the 40 limit ends. DuraAce said:
All that jazz said:
He mentions the Daltry Rd flyover as being the most profitable. Whereabouts is the camera? I go over most nights in and out of Hull on Clive Sullivan Way (A63) and never seen one.
Its not a fixed camera. Its one of (the most?) popular sites for the mobile camera van. Usually at the bottom of the flyover, just before the 40 limit ends. The headline does obscure a perhaps more important story, the attempt by Safer Roads Humber to deceive people. Their spokeswoman said "...the majority of our safety camera sites have seen a reduction in casualties..." but she fails to mention that the casualty reduction was not caused by their speed cameras. The primary reason why there have been casualty reductions at speed camera sites is the effect of the "site-selection" process (otherwise known as regression to the mean). The SRH spokeswoman fails to mention that SRH have never measured the effect of their site-selection so they have no evidence that would prove whether their speed cameras caused a reduction in casualties, or an increase in casualties.
To solve this problem, all SRH have to do is run their speed cameras within simple scientific trials, then we would all know what effect they are having. It's not difficult.
To solve this problem, all SRH have to do is run their speed cameras within simple scientific trials, then we would all know what effect they are having. It's not difficult.
gus607 said:
Meh, they are pocket money cameras, for real earners try Nottingham.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire...
The ring road has a 40 mph limit and people assume incorrectly that the A610 which is a DC is also a 40. it isn't any more. They made it a 30 and stuck up the specs. It catches out no end of people travelling from the M1 into this city. Then they have to pay to park because the council stuck a meter on every inch of parking space in the city. They wanted motorists to fund the tram project and even taxed businesses who had their own private parking places. We also have a lot of CEO's but the first you know about those is when you get a ticket for a minor infringement. There are no warning signs indicating where the CEO's are. NTTM city council must be coining it in.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire...
DuraAce said:
All that jazz said:
He mentions the Daltry Rd flyover as being the most profitable. Whereabouts is the camera? I go over most nights in and out of Hull on Clive Sullivan Way (A63) and never seen one.
Its not a fixed camera. Its one of (the most?) popular sites for the mobile camera van. Usually at the bottom of the flyover, just before the 40 limit ends. Presume people are still doing it today, not waiting for the sign, but accelerating way way before it just on the bend down.
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