Discussion
dingg said:
surveyor said:
Whereas I see a business opportunity....
my Son has won a drone (quite a good one with hi spec camera) in some online competition , first thing I thought of was surveying peoples roofssaves on scaffold and lets the property owner see first hand the condition of the roof.
Just got to put it into practice now.
AndrewEH1 said:
I will WJNB one thing, more and more people do buy these drones without knowing all the rules and procedures that they need to follow to operate them safely and legally. They will ruin it for everyone else...
This.Almost stopped using mine now, too many people ignorant of the applicable laws and flying illegally / causing nuisance and giving the hobby a bad reputation.
dingg said:
my Son has won a drone (quite a good one with hi spec camera) in some online competition , first thing I thought of was surveying peoples roofs
saves on scaffold and lets the property owner see first hand the condition of the roof.
Just got to put it into practice now.
Quite a few places doing this now; we use three firms for bridge / mast / building inspections. all CAA regulated, saves us closing a rail line or getting mobile access until we know we need to get a person onto a structure. Safety implications as well (falls from height the number 1 hazard in construction)...saves on scaffold and lets the property owner see first hand the condition of the roof.
Just got to put it into practice now.
Robbo 27 said:
TurboHatchback said:
What exactly is your problem with him flying his drone near your house? If there's some good reason why he shouldn't then talk to him, whatever you do don't try and damage or destroy it. Drones are expensive, I've got one and if someone deliberately damaged or destroyed it I would take it much like someone deliberately damaging my car, we would be having a disagreement that wouldn't end well for anyone.
Mainly because it is a nuisance andit is being used within 150 metres of a congested area and 50 metres of a person, vessel, vehicle or structure not under the control of the pilot, CAA rules, take it up with them if you dont like the Law.toerag said:
Good luck with that, if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation.
Well frankly that makes you sound like a class A pillock. If someone was driving a noisy car nearby would you smash it up with a bat? Or someone using their expensive mountain bike near you in a way you disliked then you'd smash that up too? Aside from being stupid and immature that sort of behaviour might well land you in A&E or get you arrested.jmorgan said:
Good zoom, in through the window of your house watching stuff going on in the bedrooms?
Heck, what is wrong with that?
Or checking the roof tiles, honest officer.
Problem with these devices, the few will get the device a bad name and bad legislation to deal with it. I would like to get one, my intent is film in 4K flying over cliffs and country side not trying spy in houses and pee off my neighbours.
What is it going to see that helicopters, planes and satellites don't see all the time anyway? Unless you're holding orgies in the garden or have a massive weed plantation then why would you care if someone takes a photo of your garden? Personally I don't fly mine over housing estates because frankly that's rather boring but the whole 'invasion of privacy' thing doesn't make much sense to me unless they're literally hovering 20m over your garden pointing it at you.Heck, what is wrong with that?
Or checking the roof tiles, honest officer.
Problem with these devices, the few will get the device a bad name and bad legislation to deal with it. I would like to get one, my intent is film in 4K flying over cliffs and country side not trying spy in houses and pee off my neighbours.
14-7 said:
Powerfully built director type with goatee beard are we? I love these posts that always state 'it wouldn't end well for the other person' coming from people who wouldn't say boo to a goose 
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Clean shaven I'm afraid, useless clearly..
V8A*ndy said:
"within 50 metres of any vessel, vehicle or structure which is not under the control of the person in charge of the aircraft"
But this only applies if the operator is recording pictures or video as the aircraft then falls under the CAA surveillance aircraft rules.
If not it's just a radio controlled hobby and as already mentioned first person camera view is allowed and doesn't fall under the above rules.
If the operator is being a knob and dangerous then tell plod (air navigation order breach) if not, just leave him/her be.
ETA: BTW you don't own the airspace above your house and people can fly drones legally over your house.
Where does it say this in black and white? (I've got a drone)But this only applies if the operator is recording pictures or video as the aircraft then falls under the CAA surveillance aircraft rules.
If not it's just a radio controlled hobby and as already mentioned first person camera view is allowed and doesn't fall under the above rules.
If the operator is being a knob and dangerous then tell plod (air navigation order breach) if not, just leave him/her be.
ETA: BTW you don't own the airspace above your house and people can fly drones legally over your house.
Edited by V8A*ndy on Sunday 10th April 21:26
TurboHatchback said:
Well frankly that makes you sound like a class A pillock. If someone was driving a noisy car nearby would you smash it up with a bat? Or someone using their expensive mountain bike near you in a way you disliked then you'd smash that up too? Aside from being stupid and immature that sort of behaviour might well land you in A&E or get you arrested.
If the car/bike were flying over my property filming, then yes.
As previously noted, the drone was being a nuisance to over eight houses, seen hovering below roof height in the gardens and as low as 6 feet from the ground. One person in his garden was nearly hit. We never did find out who was flying the thing but suspect someone flying it from their own garden or balcony.
We dont know why it was being used, it had a camera but there isnt much to see, we suspect it was just a toy and a teenager was trying to wind everyone up. It came low enough that we could have hit it with a sweeping brush and I feel that we would probably have been within our rights. If the drone had cuased damage or injury I dont know how we would have stood in terms of taking legal action against the owner, I would expect that it would simply have flown off but if it had crash landed are these things registered?
We dont know why it was being used, it had a camera but there isnt much to see, we suspect it was just a toy and a teenager was trying to wind everyone up. It came low enough that we could have hit it with a sweeping brush and I feel that we would probably have been within our rights. If the drone had cuased damage or injury I dont know how we would have stood in terms of taking legal action against the owner, I would expect that it would simply have flown off but if it had crash landed are these things registered?
TurboHatchback said:
jmorgan said:
Good zoom, in through the window of your house watching stuff going on in the bedrooms?
Heck, what is wrong with that?
Or checking the roof tiles, honest officer.
Problem with these devices, the few will get the device a bad name and bad legislation to deal with it. I would like to get one, my intent is film in 4K flying over cliffs and country side not trying spy in houses and pee off my neighbours.
What is it going to see that helicopters, planes and satellites don't see all the time anyway? Unless you're holding orgies in the garden or have a massive weed plantation then why would you care if someone takes a photo of your garden? Personally I don't fly mine over housing estates because frankly that's rather boring but the whole 'invasion of privacy' thing doesn't make much sense to me unless they're literally hovering 20m over your garden pointing it at you.Heck, what is wrong with that?
Or checking the roof tiles, honest officer.
Problem with these devices, the few will get the device a bad name and bad legislation to deal with it. I would like to get one, my intent is film in 4K flying over cliffs and country side not trying spy in houses and pee off my neighbours.
Simple fact of the matter, this new technology can get in your face quite easily and those that operate without any thought for the locality will spoil it for the rest of us (if I ever get around to it). It is something waiting for a knee jerk legislation due to a few users that do not think.
And if I do see one perving away, its fair game.
Mr Trophy said:
V8A*ndy said:
"within 50 metres of any vessel, vehicle or structure which is not under the control of the person in charge of the aircraft"
But this only applies if the operator is recording pictures or video as the aircraft then falls under the CAA surveillance aircraft rules.
If not it's just a radio controlled hobby and as already mentioned first person camera view is allowed and doesn't fall under the above rules.
If the operator is being a knob and dangerous then tell plod (air navigation order breach) if not, just leave him/her be.
ETA: BTW you don't own the airspace above your house and people can fly drones legally over your house.
Where does it say this in black and white? (I've got a drone)But this only applies if the operator is recording pictures or video as the aircraft then falls under the CAA surveillance aircraft rules.
If not it's just a radio controlled hobby and as already mentioned first person camera view is allowed and doesn't fall under the above rules.
If the operator is being a knob and dangerous then tell plod (air navigation order breach) if not, just leave him/her be.
ETA: BTW you don't own the airspace above your house and people can fly drones legally over your house.
Edited by V8A*ndy on Sunday 10th April 21:26
FPV is clarified under CAP 722 article 3.4 in Section 3
As someone who flies radio controlled helicopters, planes and occasionally small drones, it does annoy me when people fly their "toys" over other people's property or anywhere near other people. Depending on what you mean by "drone" (ie. is it a micro-toy thing or are we talking DJI or similar?) the potential to cause harm to people or property is very real. Failures do happen and even small props can cause some very nasty injuries. If this person is really just "trying out" their toy, they really should not be doing it in a confined space / over people.
As an aside, the wife and I we very nearly hit by some idiots "micro drone" which we saw out of control and coming down towards us under full power from at least 150 feet. The thing landed in a tree 10 feet or so away from us followed some 30 seconds later by some fool asking if we'd seen his drone! With bell ends like this around it's just a matter of time before these things are either banned or licensed (like in the US now) or only allowed to be flown from designated sites etc.
As an aside, the wife and I we very nearly hit by some idiots "micro drone" which we saw out of control and coming down towards us under full power from at least 150 feet. The thing landed in a tree 10 feet or so away from us followed some 30 seconds later by some fool asking if we'd seen his drone! With bell ends like this around it's just a matter of time before these things are either banned or licensed (like in the US now) or only allowed to be flown from designated sites etc.
feef said:
Good stuff.A proper PH type thing to do with one.
But, never connect it to skynet!
feef said:
Good idea, if you can take out a chainsaw wielding drone with a party balloon then that seems to be the answer to the OP's problem.Bottle of helium , large pack of party balloons and release them all when the drone is above. Problem solved
Marvtec said:
At that height I think it's very reasonable to bring it down. Don't need to destroy it but it would make the owner have to come and ask for it back, at which point you can make your feelings clear.
Tamper with one of these things whilst in the air would be very dangerous.
They are very safe when working/controlled properly but damage a prop, motor or compass the thing won't merely just come down gently.
The props can cause serious injury or the drone could fly upwards out of control into the path of an aircraft, fly off down the street and hit a car or crash with a damaged LIPO battery and start a fire.
For all we know the operator could have CAA PTF, full insurance or just a hobbyist flying FPV. Don't take the law into your own hands. Call Plod and let them deal with it or just have a word with the person.
A lot of guys flying these things are clueless and total knobs. There needs to be a register just like the US.
foreright said:
As someone who flies radio controlled helicopters, planes and occasionally small drones, it does annoy me when people fly their "toys" over other people's property or anywhere near other people. Depending on what you mean by "drone" (ie. is it a micro-toy thing or are we talking DJI or similar?) the potential to cause harm to people or property is very real. Failures do happen and even small props can cause some very nasty injuries. If this person is really just "trying out" their toy, they really should not be doing it in a confined space / over people.
As an aside, the wife and I we very nearly hit by some idiots "micro drone" which we saw out of control and coming down towards us under full power from at least 150 feet. The thing landed in a tree 10 feet or so away from us followed some 30 seconds later by some fool asking if we'd seen his drone! With bell ends like this around it's just a matter of time before these things are either banned or licensed (like in the US now) or only allowed to be flown from designated sites etc.
and to think the neighbours used to go mental when I was a lad flying my Peter Powell stunt kite in my garden.As an aside, the wife and I we very nearly hit by some idiots "micro drone" which we saw out of control and coming down towards us under full power from at least 150 feet. The thing landed in a tree 10 feet or so away from us followed some 30 seconds later by some fool asking if we'd seen his drone! With bell ends like this around it's just a matter of time before these things are either banned or licensed (like in the US now) or only allowed to be flown from designated sites etc.
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