Drones

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AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Hack his drone and steal it. Or throw it at his wife, or something.

Speak to this guy, he'll sort you out

http://www.wired.com/2016/03/hacker-says-can-hijac...

TurboHatchback

4,162 posts

154 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Robbo 27 said:
As previously noted, the drone was being a nuisance to over eight houses, seen hovering below roof height in the gardens and as low as 6 feet from the ground. One person in his garden was nearly hit. We never did find out who was flying the thing but suspect someone flying it from their own garden or balcony.

We dont know why it was being used, it had a camera but there isnt much to see, we suspect it was just a toy and a teenager was trying to wind everyone up. It came low enough that we could have hit it with a sweeping brush and I feel that we would probably have been within our rights. If the drone had cuased damage or injury I dont know how we would have stood in terms of taking legal action against the owner, I would expect that it would simply have flown off but if it had crash landed are these things registered?
I would agree that flying at that height is antisocial, potentially dangerous and probably illegal given the location. If it was 100m up in the air (where it arguably should be in such a location) you might well not even notice it was there, mine is practically invisible at that height and only noticeably audible if it's a still day with little ambient noise.

They aren't registered by the government, many (DJI products for example) are registered with the company so the manufacturer would be able to identify the purchaser from the serial number but I doubt they'd give that information to the public. It would be more or less impossible to cause damage or injury to anything and just fly off, if you hit something it's going to crash and will require putting on its feet again before it goes anywhere so you'd soon find out who's it was (or they'd lose their drone).

jmorgan said:
TurboHatchback said:
jmorgan said:
Good zoom, in through the window of your house watching stuff going on in the bedrooms?

Heck, what is wrong with that?

Or checking the roof tiles, honest officer.

Problem with these devices, the few will get the device a bad name and bad legislation to deal with it. I would like to get one, my intent is film in 4K flying over cliffs and country side not trying spy in houses and pee off my neighbours.
What is it going to see that helicopters, planes and satellites don't see all the time anyway? Unless you're holding orgies in the garden or have a massive weed plantation then why would you care if someone takes a photo of your garden? Personally I don't fly mine over housing estates because frankly that's rather boring but the whole 'invasion of privacy' thing doesn't make much sense to me unless they're literally hovering 20m over your garden pointing it at you.
What are the specs for a satellite spying? Apart from the implication that they can (I don't know), I doubt very much that such an expensive resource is wasted perving on the populace. Same for helicopters, how many neighbours have one around your way?

Simple fact of the matter, this new technology can get in your face quite easily and those that operate without any thought for the locality will spoil it for the rest of us (if I ever get around to it). It is something waiting for a knee jerk legislation due to a few users that do not think.

And if I do see one perving away, its fair game.
A lot more helicopters fly over my house than drones. I agree it's unlikely that helicopters or satellites are interested in your house but I would also guess most drones are uninterested too, who really cares what you get up to in your garden apart from you? Maybe I'm wrong but somehow I can't imagine your typical curtain twitcher owning or managing to fly a drone.

I agree that there are people that fly them inappropriately and it concerns me too that they will ruin them for the rest of us but I don't understand the "ugg, witchcraft, throw sticks at it" mentality that seems to blight so many people. A bit more tolerance and understanding all round would do wonders for everyones blood pressure.

bad company

18,642 posts

267 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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toerag said:
Good luck with that, if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation.
Hard as nails, brain the size of a pea.

esxste

3,688 posts

107 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Maybe the issue with drones is that people don't want to go down the logical thought path that leads to the conclusion that the universe doesn't actually revolve around them.

DuncB7

353 posts

99 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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I am fairly confident hammering frozen sausages into the drone pilot's front lawn would bring about amicable solution for all parties.

creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Digitalize said:
Either way, I imagine he's just testing it before taking somewhere else, in theory it's no more intrusive really than satellite imagery, which can be done without you knowing.
Well except that a HD camera on a drone from a few feet away will have orders of magnitide more resolution than a satellite 150 miles or more in space.

And except that the US Department of Defence is unlikely to upload pictures of you in a pair of Minion underpants onto the internet for a laugh.


Digitalize

2,850 posts

136 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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creampuff said:
Well except that a HD camera on a drone from a few feet away will have orders of magnitide more resolution than a satellite 150 miles or more in space.

And except that the US Department of Defence is unlikely to upload pictures of you in a pair of Minion underpants onto the internet for a laugh.
The newer DJI ones are 4k, to worry you even more.

I've been looking in to drones more seriously for commercial use as a film maker, but I need to fully look in to training, certification, insurance etc. Hopefully they haven't made it too complicated or expensive to be viable.

Robbo 27

Original Poster:

3,650 posts

100 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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I agree Turbohatchback, I wouldnt have an issue for a drone 100m high, the issue was the operator was looking to pi55 everyone off by having his drone in our space.

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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colin_p said:
When they bring robot wars back...

It should be airbourne !

The whole lot, the arena could be a modified one of those flying aircraft carriers like on the avengers film, the robots should have propellers and jet engines and everything. Just imagine a flying Sir Killalot.

And each episode could be filmed hovering above someones back garden who would be the winner of an 0898 phone in...

Class, I cannot wait !
Airmagedden
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/feb/2...

I've also seen some footage of drone racing around a stadium course

colin_p

4,503 posts

213 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Byker28i said:
colin_p said:
When they bring robot wars back...

It should be airbourne !

The whole lot, the arena could be a modified one of those flying aircraft carriers like on the avengers film, the robots should have propellers and jet engines and everything. Just imagine a flying Sir Killalot.

And each episode could be filmed hovering above someones back garden who would be the winner of an 0898 phone in...

Class, I cannot wait !
Airmagedden
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/feb/2...

I've also seen some footage of drone racing around a stadium course
It is real !

Who'd have thought the BBC would have done something like that.

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Currently playing with a dji Phantom 4 in the evenings when I get back from work. Absolutely stunning machine: you can basically say to it "follow the thing that I have just poked on the screen, at an altitude of 400 feet, and avoid anything that gets in the way". The last flying thing I built was a scale P-38 Mustang in the 80s - this is a bit of a step up. I tried it on the dog, and it tracked a German Shepherd pelting across a field with no problems at all.

Unfortunately I fear it is only a matter of time before the whole party gets cancelled by someone doing something awful with one. As in "please fly this 1 kilo package into a crowd". It's just too easy.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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TurboHatchback said:
A lot more helicopters fly over my house than drones. I agree it's unlikely that helicopters or satellites are interested in your house but I would also guess most drones are uninterested too, who really cares what you get up to in your garden apart from you? Maybe I'm wrong but somehow I can't imagine your typical curtain twitcher owning or managing to fly a drone.

I agree that there are people that fly them inappropriately and it concerns me too that they will ruin them for the rest of us but I don't understand the "ugg, witchcraft, throw sticks at it" mentality that seems to blight so many people. A bit more tolerance and understanding all round would do wonders for everyones blood pressure.
Problem is in this world of instant spread it around the net, you only want one gurning slack tarded eejit to post up a film from someone's bedroom there will be the outcry for tighter legislation.

The prices have dropped enough for this tech to come into the hands of people that have problems remembering to breathe. Lowest common denominator right there, sooner or later it gonna happen.


I have seen some cracking footage of impressive places from such devices. Long may that aspect continue.

toerag

748 posts

133 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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bad company said:
Hard as nails, brain the size of a pea.
Oh bravo. Not only have you manage to insult someone on the internet today, but while doing so expertly slipped into the presumed persona of the person you are insulting. The funny thing is your presumption is wrong (presumption usually is), which kind of make you look like the pea brained idiot. So, if you could please practice your [re] tired psychoanalysing skills elsewhere it really would be appreciated...thanks...damn I think I got the [re] in the wrong place, but you get the idea.

bad company

18,642 posts

267 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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toerag said:
bad company said:
Hard as nails, brain the size of a pea.
Oh bravo. Not only have you manage to insult someone on the internet today, but while doing so expertly slipped into the presumed persona of the person you are insulting. The funny thing is your presumption is wrong (presumption usually is), which kind of make you look like the pea brained idiot. So, if you could please practice your [re] tired psychoanalysing skills elsewhere it really would be appreciated...thanks...damn I think I got the [re] in the wrong place, but you get the idea.
So you think your post below was sensible / rational?

if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation



Edited by bad company on Monday 11th April 22:21

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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bad company said:
toerag said:
Good luck with that, if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation.
Hard as nails, brain the size of a pea.
Yeah, I'm off this fly one over his house... Will let you know how it goes!


jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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jmorgan said:
Problem is in this world of instant spread it around the net, you only want one gurning slack tarded eejit to post up a film from someone's bedroom there will be the outcry for tighter legislation.

The prices have dropped enough for this tech to come into the hands of people that have problems remembering to breathe. Lowest common denominator right there, sooner or later it gonna happen.


I have seen some cracking footage of impressive places from such devices. Long may that aspect continue.
Bit like laser pens? 99.9% of people no problem, 0.1% 'oh I know I'll point it into the cockpit of this jumbo jet on approach to land at Heathrow, that'll be hilarious!'

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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jdw100 said:
Bit like laser pens? 99.9% of people no problem, 0.1% 'oh I know I'll point it into the cockpit of this jumbo jet on approach to land at Heathrow, that'll be hilarious!'
I saw a cracking laser finder for my telescope. Problem is I am under the path for landing at Cardiff airport. So it is a red dot finder for me. I could have bought the laser pointer, but I foresaw issues given the situation. Not just the wannabe Jedi, an innocent party not thinking could be an arse.

Catatafish

1,361 posts

146 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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DuncB7 said:
I am fairly confident hammering frozen sausages into the drone pilot's front lawn would bring about amicable solution for all parties.
How about a surface to air frozen sausage cluster munition?

bad company

18,642 posts

267 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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jdw100 said:
bad company said:
toerag said:
Good luck with that, if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation.
Hard as nails, brain the size of a pea.
Yeah, I'm off this fly one over his house... Will let you know how it goes!
Watch out. E's Really Ard'! punch

FurryExocet

3,011 posts

182 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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toerag said:
Good luck with that, if someone was flying one over my property I'd have it out the sky and be snapping bits off it as we had that conversation.
Why are there so many bellends on here? It's a hobby, how about people actually talk to their neighbours about things, rather than instantly resort to violence or damage??

Or are you just so powerfully built, that you don't care about getting on with people? This is how a lot of neighbour disputes start, a small issue that gets blown way out of proportion.