Items missing on a new car.

[ferdyg]

just a quick response to this.

Looking at the brochure the following information is shown for the Jaguar F-Pace First Edition:

10 way electric front seats are standard, memory setting for the seats is not available

Adaptive Surface Response is not a standard feature neither is it an option on the F-Pace First Edition

Loadspace storage rails are standard

This information is taken from the October 2015/MY17 brochure, JLM/10/02/88/1015

So maybe someone is mistaken?

[lady topaz]

ferdyg said:

just a quick response to this.

Looking at the brochure the following information is shown for the Jaguar F-Pace First Edition:

10 way electric front seats are standard, memory setting for the seats is not available

Adaptive Surface Response is not a standard feature neither is it an option on the F-Pace First Edition

Loadspace storage rails are standard

This information is taken from the October 2015/MY17 brochure, JLM/10/02/88/1015

So maybe someone is mistaken?

There are some links on the FPace forum. One from the configurator which was still live yesterday. I will try and dig it out tomorrow and post it here.

I think there were many spec changes and confusion because many countries get entirely different specs. We were shown a dealer spec yesterday which clearly says sliding panoramic roof as standard, but that too was removed early on.

[George111]

lady topaz said:

ferdyg said:

just a quick response to this.

Looking at the brochure the following information is shown for the Jaguar F-Pace First Edition:

10 way electric front seats are standard, memory setting for the seats is not available

Adaptive Surface Response is not a standard feature neither is it an option on the F-Pace First Edition

Loadspace storage rails are standard

This information is taken from the October 2015/MY17 brochure, JLM/10/02/88/1015

So maybe someone is mistaken?

There are some links on the FPace forum. One from the configurator which was still live yesterday. I will try and dig it out tomorrow and post it here.

I think there were many spec changes and confusion because many countries get entirely different specs. We were shown a dealer spec yesterday which clearly says sliding panoramic roof as standard, but that too was removed early on.

Just be grateful you didn't put a deposit down on a Tesla model 3 . . . I hear they have changed the spec and are now fitting a 3cyl VW diesel engine as a range extender.

[Burwood]

George111 said:

lady topaz said:

ferdyg said:

just a quick response to this.

Looking at the brochure the following information is shown for the Jaguar F-Pace First Edition:

10 way electric front seats are standard, memory setting for the seats is not available

Adaptive Surface Response is not a standard feature neither is it an option on the F-Pace First Edition

Loadspace storage rails are standard

This information is taken from the October 2015/MY17 brochure, JLM/10/02/88/1015

So maybe someone is mistaken?

There are some links on the FPace forum. One from the configurator which was still live yesterday. I will try and dig it out tomorrow and post it here.

I think there were many spec changes and confusion because many countries get entirely different specs. We were shown a dealer spec yesterday which clearly says sliding panoramic roof as standard, but that too was removed early on.

Just be grateful you didn't put a deposit down on a Tesla model 3 . . . I hear they have changed the spec and are now fitting a 3cyl VW diesel engine as a range extender.

nope, still least of their concerns. My guess they won't see a car for 5 years. Tesla is burning a lot of cash and unless they expand massively, they are not a viable car producer

[ferdyg]

Sliding panoramic roof was never, ever available on the First Edition or an option.

It may have been for a different market, not for the UK

[lady topaz]

ferdyg said:

Sliding panoramic roof was never, ever available on the First Edition or an option.

It may have been for a different market, not for the UK

I have dealer spec in front of me now and it is. Repeat, dealer spec, they were working from.

[lady topaz]

Just taken a crap pic of spec which I will post in morning.

Do you honestly think I'm making this up???

Oh and ferdyg go on the forum I have twice indicated and perhaps view the facts.

Edited by lady topaz on Thursday 21st April 18:11

[Roo]

Dealer spec as in filled in by the dealer?

Or manufacturer spec?

[Burwood]

lady topaz said:

ferdyg said:

Sliding panoramic roof was never, ever available on the First Edition or an option.

It may have been for a different market, not for the UK

I have dealer spec in front of me now and it is. Repeat, dealer spec, they were working from.

To be fair LT you said no comment until the dealer deals. I suspect they will offer nowt. I genuinely feel that you have been hard done by and I am biased but the company you are dealing with is riding on a high, a short term one in my opinion. I've read so many threads about special editions, what was that f type special at 150k. Owners treated like st. I wouldn't touch tata ( that is where the attitude comes from) with a 50 ft poll. I like the f pace, shame about the network that sells it. The biggest issue is that dealers actually think you are lucky to be allowed to buy their product. And despite autocar, it isn't cure for cancer they make out

Edited by Burwood on Thursday 21st April 20:59

[lady topaz]

Hopefully you can see the sliding roof included, but also this particular spec does not have the memory seats. i think it was said by others that they were in the configurator. Also it gives additional colours which aren't available in the uk market so I accept it could possibly be for overseas, but it is the one my Uk dealer was working from




This was still live on the configurator on Weds

Adaptive Dynamics Pack (AWD only. ALL features in this pack are standard on First Edition) - code Z07A - Consists of Adaptive Dynamics and Adaptive Surface Response.

Anyway like I said I will make no further comment whilst talks are ongoing. I just wanted to show the doubters I am not making this up.

[V8LM]

The car shown doesn't have a sliding roof, so something is wrong.

Configurators, especially JLR's, are often wrong.

web said:

Jaguar is constantly seeking ways to improve the specification, design and production of its vehicles and alterations take place continually. Whilst every effort is made to produce up to date products and specifications, this site should not be regarded as an infallible guide to Jaguar products and services, nor does it constitute an offer for the sale of any particular vehicle. Distributors and Retailers are not agents of Jaguar and have absolutely no authority to bind Jaguar by any express or implied undertaking or representation.

[mikeveal]

V8LM said:

The car shown doesn't have a sliding roof, so something is wrong.

Configurators, especially JLR's, are often wrong.

web said:

Stuff

Interesting, but largely irrelevant. As you may have too, I'd overlooked the fact that the OPs contract will be with the dealer, not Jaguar. Easy to forget when buying a Jag from a Jag dealer, that you don't have a contract with Jaguar (not that I ever have)(bought a Jag that is, not forgotten)(I'm good at "forgotten").

If the dealer made a contract to supply the car with xyz features for £650M, then that's what they the dealer have to stand by. Those words just point out the distance between Jag and the Jag dealer.

[V8LM]

mikeveal said:

Interesting, but largely irrelevant. As you may have too, I'd overlooked the fact that the OPs contract will be with the dealer, not Jaguar. Easy to forget when buying a Jag from a Jag dealer, that you don't have a contract with Jaguar (not that I ever have)(bought a Jag that is, not forgotten)(I'm good at "forgotten").

If the dealer made a contract to supply the car with xyz features for £650M, then that's what they the dealer have to stand by. Those words just point out the distance between Jag and the Jag dealer.

True. Land Rover's, and I presume Jaguar's brochures say:

Land Rover said:

Distributors and dealerships are not agents of Land Rover and have absolutely no authority to bind Land Rover to any express or implied undertaking or representation.

and every order for a new car I've made only gives the model name and type and items added in addition to the spec, and not list the full spec of the model.

[ferdyg]

F-PACE FIRST EDITION

Inspired by the C-X17 Concept, F-PACE First Edition offers exclusive design details and high specification features available with the 3.0 litre V6 300PS Turbocharged Diesel.

Price: £65,275

KEY FEATURES IN ADDITION/REPLACEMENT TO S:
22” alloy wheels
Head-Up Display Pack
Adaptive LED headlights with LED ‘J’ Blade Daytime Running Lights
Caesium Blue unique paint colour
Suedecloth headlining
Activity Key
InControl Touch Pro with Meridian Digital Surround Sound System (825W)
Panoramic Roof
Gesture Tailgate

taken from the Jaguar.co.uk website.

The spec for the USA is different.

Not suggesting that you are making it up at all, but the information the dealer is feeding you is incorrect.

[lady topaz]

ferdyg said:

F-PACE FIRST EDITION

Inspired by the C-X17 Concept, F-PACE First Edition offers exclusive design details and high specification features available with the 3.0 litre V6 300PS Turbocharged Diesel.

Price: £65,275

KEY FEATURES IN ADDITION/REPLACEMENT TO S:
22” alloy wheels
Head-Up Display Pack
Adaptive LED headlights with LED ‘J’ Blade Daytime Running Lights
Caesium Blue unique paint colour
Suedecloth headlining
Activity Key
InControl Touch Pro with Meridian Digital Surround Sound System (825W)
Panoramic Roof
Gesture Tailgate

taken from the Jaguar.co.uk website.

The spec for the USA is different.

Not suggesting that you are making it up at all, but the information the dealer is feeding you is incorrect.

Looking at the above, I may have another conversation tomorrow. A guy on the FPace forum has just posted his actual receipt showing Meridian Surround Sound System 380W.

Happy days

[tankplanker]

ferdyg said:

F-PACE FIRST EDITION

Inspired by the C-X17 Concept, F-PACE First Edition offers exclusive design details and high specification features available with the 3.0 litre V6 300PS Turbocharged Diesel.

Price: £65,275

KEY FEATURES IN ADDITION/REPLACEMENT TO S:
22” alloy wheels
Head-Up Display Pack
Adaptive LED headlights with LED ‘J’ Blade Daytime Running Lights
Caesium Blue unique paint colour
Suedecloth headlining
Activity Key
InControl Touch Pro with Meridian Digital Surround Sound System (825W)
Panoramic Roof
Gesture Tailgate

taken from the Jaguar.co.uk website.

The spec for the USA is different.

Not suggesting that you are making it up at all, but the information the dealer is feeding you is incorrect.

Is that all that comes with the special launch edition? Seems to have a large markup just to get it first, I can spec the S with all of that, the most expensive paint and wheels, the opening sunroof, memory seats, and still come in at under £63k. I personally don't like the colour of the most expensive paint so you can knock £1k off for that, another £1k if you can live without a suede headlining and £300 if you don't need the activity key.

[TooMany2cvs]

tankplanker said:

s that all that comes with the special launch edition? Seems to have a large markup just to get it first, I can spec the S with all of that, the most expensive paint and wheels, the opening sunroof, memory seats, and still come in at under £63k. I personally don't like the colour of the most expensive paint so you can knock £1k off for that, another £1k if you can live without a suede headlining and £300 if you don't need the activity key.

...and if you don't need 4wd, or the extra power of the v6 diesel, or...

[tankplanker]

TooMany2cvs said:

...and if you don't need 4wd, or the extra power of the v6 diesel, or...

Eh? thats with either the 4x4 3.0d or the 3.5 petrol, both are the same price.

[Roo]

mikeveal said:

Interesting, but largely irrelevant. As you may have too, I'd overlooked the fact that the OPs contract will be with the dealer, not Jaguar. Easy to forget when buying a Jag from a Jag dealer, that you don't have a contract with Jaguar (not that I ever have)(bought a Jag that is, not forgotten)(I'm good at "forgotten").

The contract is always with the supplier, not the manufacturer.

The fact it's a car, as opposed to something like a TV, is irrelevant.

Lady T, is there any text at the bottom of that spec sheet or on the reverse?

It's interesting that Jaguar do appear to be talking to customers on an individual basis about it.

[Davel]

Not the same but I had a problem that dragged on for 12 months with a brand new BMW Motorcycle.

The dealer was doing very little about it until I involved BMW Customer Service and posted a thread on UKGSer, which got over 18,000 views. I rejected the bike.

The point is that your contract is with the dealer, but I'd also include the manufacturer in everything - and keep as much as possible in writing.

Of course they might be reluctant to put things in writing!