12 Points on the Horizon...
Discussion
anonymous said:
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So the whole comparison thing was irrelevant, then?anonymous said:
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That's easy. Speeding is viewed as a minor offence, because it undoubtedly IS a minor offence. Even the absolute maximum penalties are very, very low in the grand scheme of things. Much lower than the bare minimum penalties for even a simple common assault - without a knife and without any real physical injury - let alone a stabbing.The bottom line is that if you view an offence as so minor that you don't care, and you get caught committing it, then that's up to you. However, if you've been caught committing a minor offence 3 times and you know damn well that getting caught once more will lead to it becoming a major problem, then if you get caught again, I don't see wtf have you got to complain about????
It's not unfortunate. It's not hard luck. It's not a scam. It's pure idiocy. IMHO.
It's not unfortunate. It's not hard luck. It's not a scam. It's pure idiocy. IMHO.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The bottom line is that if you view an offence as so minor that you don't care, and you get caught committing it, then that's up to you. However, if you've been caught committing a minor offence 3 times and you know damn well that getting caught once more will lead to it becoming a major problem, then if you get caught again, I don't see wtf have you got to complain about????
It's not unfortunate. It's not hard luck. It's not a scam. It's pure idiocy. IMHO.
Abso-flippin-lutely.It's not unfortunate. It's not hard luck. It's not a scam. It's pure idiocy. IMHO.
I nearly got flashed on the M25, variable came on at 11pm as myself and perhaps 6 other cars were truntling along at 80mph, all of a sudden the gantry ahead changes to 40mph (bearing in mind no one is about and everything flowing freely), cars ahead of me get flashed and I slam on and managed to avoid it, car nearly rear ended me.
MikeGoodwin said:
I nearly got flashed on the M25, variable came on at 11pm as myself and perhaps 6 other cars were truntling along at 80mph, all of a sudden the gantry ahead changes to 40mph (bearing in mind no one is about and everything flowing freely), cars ahead of me get flashed and I slam on and managed to avoid it, car nearly rear ended me.
If the M25 came down to 40 at 11pm, there was a reason for it. 
MikeGoodwin said:
I nearly got flashed on the M25, variable came on at 11pm as myself and perhaps 6 other cars were truntling along at 80mph, all of a sudden the gantry ahead changes to 40mph (bearing in mind no one is about and everything flowing freely), cars ahead of me get flashed and I slam on and managed to avoid it, car nearly rear ended me.
I thought there was a minute delay after limit reductions, before the cameras were activated?Red Devil said:
Perhaps you can explain why the gantries for over 12 miles between J5 to J6 of the M25 were displaying red 40mph restriction roundels backed up by Incident on the roadside matrix panels around 04.35am last Saturday. It cannot have had anything to do with volume at that time in the morning or weather conditions and there was no discernible incident or obstruction that I could see. Immensely frustrating having to crawl along in formation for mile after mile for no apparent reason instead of being able to proceed quite safely at the NSL.
My crystal ball has run out of batteries........however there will have been a good reason like lose, live stock or some debris reported and incident response unit or HETO had been in the carriageway and cleared it, since the HE spend 90% of their time analysing each areas statistics. Each areas battles it out in league tables looking at incidents cleared and time network kept flowing. It's in no one area control room MAC contractor or ASC contractors interest to activate gantry signs and reduce the speed limit on a stretch for no reason or keep it on longer than is necessary.40mph limits will be the HE protecting the lives of their staff or contractors or members of the public at that time.
In a time when HATOs were brought in or prior to that roads policing unit would of assessed and possible shut two lane or the entire carriageway. That considered network occupation being key keeping lanes live with a reduced limits seems is better than diverting you elsewhere. It's a lessor of two evils but what do they say you please all people all of the time.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 17th May 21:41
Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 17th May 21:42
SS2. said:
Rovinghawk said:
TooMany2cvs said:
I thought there was a minute delay after limit reductions, before the cameras were activated?
2 minutes, AIUI.TooMany2cvs said:
The limit takes effect, yes. But how quickly do the cameras start to enforce it?
They actually told us on the last SAC I attended two weeks back. I have forgotten. But it was certainly more than 10 seconds and less than 2 minutes. Nearer the 10 seconds than the 2 minutes sounds about right though.TooMany2cvs said:
MikeGoodwin said:
I nearly got flashed on the M25, variable came on at 11pm as myself and perhaps 6 other cars were truntling along at 80mph, all of a sudden the gantry ahead changes to 40mph (bearing in mind no one is about and everything flowing freely), cars ahead of me get flashed and I slam on and managed to avoid it, car nearly rear ended me.
I thought there was a minute delay after limit reductions, before the cameras were activated?TwigtheWonderkid said:
He had a point though. If I was on 9 points I wouldn't be doing 65 in a 50, animals or not. Especially if my livelihood depended on my licence.
I got to 6 points in the mid 90s so I stopped speeding, completely. For 18 months until they were over 3 yrs old. It really wasn't hard.
YepI got to 6 points in the mid 90s so I stopped speeding, completely. For 18 months until they were over 3 yrs old. It really wasn't hard.
He must be pretty stupid
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Carlson W6 said:
^Yes.
Money.
You seriously believe they reduce limits on clear motorways at 11pm from 70 to 40 just to raise revenue but catching people speeding. Money.
Like...you are a grown adult...and you actually buy into that stuff?
surveyor_101 said:
Red Devil said:
Perhaps you can explain why the gantries for over 12 miles between J5 to J6 of the M25 were displaying red 40mph restriction roundels backed up by Incident on the roadside matrix panels around 04.35am last Saturday. It cannot have had anything to do with volume at that time in the morning or weather conditions and there was no discernible incident or obstruction that I could see. Immensely frustrating having to crawl along in formation for mile after mile for no apparent reason instead of being able to proceed quite safely at the NSL.
My crystal ball has run out of batteries........however there will have been a good reason like lose, live stock or some debris reported and incident response unit or HETO had been in the carriageway and cleared it, since the HE spend 90% of their time analysing each areas statistics. Each areas battles it out in league tables looking at incidents cleared and time network kept flowing. It's in no one area control room MAC contractor or ASC contractors interest to activate gantry signs and reduce the speed limit on a stretch for no reason or keep it on longer than is necessary.40mph limits will be the HE protecting the lives of their staff or contractors or members of the public at that time.
In a time when HATOs were brought in or prior to that roads policing unit would of assessed and possible shut two lane or the entire carriageway. That considered network occupation being key keeping lanes live with a reduced limits seems is better than diverting you elsewhere. It's a lessor of two evils but what do they say you please all people all of the time.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 17th May 21:41
Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 17th May 21:42
OpulentBob said:
Get yourself away, with reasoning like that. There's no room for you here. You haven't even got a pitchfork!
I know sorry, should of said they are after further milking the motorist for no apparent reason, and HE are in no way judged by white hall on providing a well maintained and low disruption road network.You should head to area control room and hammer frozen sausages into their lawn, (Default PH Dispute Resolver)
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